Slow down. Youre changing the meaning here.
My original point is closers in general are overrated and WAR encapsulates their value just fine. I stand by that, and I think Bellhorn’s point about the scale of the role has relevance.
As for Rivera, he is a Hall of Famer, but he is also far and away the most overrated player in MLB history. He is the best closer, but that role is also quite overvalued by many. Just because he is overrated does mean he’s useless.
Not sure where you’re going here, but if I were to put the same flip on you, I’d say you were saying the Yankees without Rivera weren’t a playoff team at all. And I hope you’re not saying that.
Rivera really is overrated and a product of right-place/right time. If the Yankee had let Mike Stanton or Gene Nelson close, does it cost them titles? (Did you know Stanton has more bWAR than Rivera in 2000 and 2002?)
And as for overrated, do you really think Rivera should have been the first unanimous selection to Cooperstown? Instead of Cal Ripken? Ken Griffey Jr.? Ted Williams? Joe DiMaggio? Or Babe Ruth?