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The 2026 Red Sox Foundation & One Possible Plan
notin replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Wondering if it makes sense for the Sox to investigate a past target I’ve thrown out there (and they’ve not been connected to publicly) by moving either Yoshida (2 yr $37.2mill) or Hicks (2 yrs $25mill) to Atlanta for C Sean Murphy (3yrs $45mill). BTV gives Murphy a surplus value of minus $25mill, Yoshida a surplus value of minus $31.1mill and Hicks a surplus of minus $19mill. Drake Baldwin is likely NL ROY or NL ROY runner up. Atlanta will likely lose Marcell Ozuna to free agency. Murphy is an option to replace him, but he’s not close to the same hitter. And possibly less of one than Yoshida at this point. But if I’m GM of Atlanta, I’d still prefer Hicks. Bigger financial savings, lower AAV, and he does still throw really, really hard. And it might be as simple as keeping him out of the rotation to get him back to the reliever he used to be… -
No. In fact, fans who do not like a CBO excuse away any good move he makes as “lucky” or it “fell into his lap.” “Luck” is an excuse to justify further criticism…
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I like the attitude…
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From 2020 through 2023, the rhetoric was “you can’t count on Sale.” But once he got traded, it suddenly morphed into “they should have counted on Sale.” Not sure why anyone thinks it’s so painfully obvious Sale was going to be the first starting pitcher to accrue more WAR at age 35 than he did from ages 29 through 34 combined. But if Sale had stayed and flipped again, folks would have been all over Breslow for NOT trading him, just like they were when Bloom didn’t trade him to Texas in 2022. Sometimes it feels like people don’t want smart CBOs or crafty CBOs; they want psychics…
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A lot of people wanted Anthony called up earlier. You’re hardly alone on that list. The only issue was the Sox didn’t need OF/DH types. They did have issues at 1b and eventually at 2b. But Anthony solved none of these…
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Upon further review, this post has been overturned…
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Just starting pitchers? Imagine if he had unloaded Story this off-season…
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Not relevant. My point is if we tie with Cleveland for the last spot, the Sox are in and Cleveland is not.If we tie with Setroit for the last playoff spot, we’re out. And Cleveland isnt trying to catch the Sox; they are aiming for Detroit. (They’ll settle for passing Boston.)
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Fan interest?! Those DEMONS!!
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The Sox do have to hope Cleveland doesn’t overtake Detroit and leave us needing to beat the Tigers for a WC slot, as they currently have a 0-3 record against Detroit…
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Missing the postseason altogether would be far, far worse. There is no reason to believe road games in Houston or Seattle are automatic losses, and even less reason to believe being eliminated by a two game losing for a lineup still potentially starting half the bench would create any situation beyond a positive one, regardless of the brief trip. Don’t forget the Sox split the season series with Seattle and won it vs Houston. (So go Seattle -take the West!) You can’t argue this team is not playoff worthy while at the same time, exalting other teams with basically the same records overall, but a losing one against Boston. Also important - Boston owns the tiebreaker with Cleveland…
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It believe it was 2011 that had the lead entering September and then just fell apart that last month, reportedly due to being forced to play a makeup game on a scheduled off day. The 2012 team faltered to the end because in late August, they traded away AGon, Crawford, Beckett and Punto for a pocketful of change and a basketful of dreams…
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Anthony was called up 6 days before Devers was traded. At the time the Sox still had Duran-Rafaela-Abreu in the OF. Whether or not he is worth one more win than any of those three over the first 2 months of the season is debatable. Now if Devers had been a team player and said (in Spanish) “I will take over first base since Casas is now injured”, that would have at least opened up a DH slot for him and been a much better lineup capable of a few more wins. But Devers was still a petulant child at that time..:
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Romy and Refsnyder are fine as weak side platoon hitters. But lately both have seen that role expand out of necessity…
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Which team didnt get a real bat that they had to pay d for all season? The Red Sox committed $40mil to Bregman. The Cubs traded for Kyle Tucker. The Blue Jays had a fairly inactive offseason, although they did give a massive extension to their star slugger, and that current roster was vmcertainly built through anyone’s definition of trying. The Red Sox did everything fans usually associate with trying to win. They brought in expensive talent (Bregman). They traded prospects for key players (Crochet, Narvaez). They signed other key role players (Chapman, Wilson). They traded away Devers because he openly stated he was not going to be a team player. And they did unload Priester for reasons I didn’t understand, and it’s made worse by his sudden emergence to relevance…
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Likely not, but he hopefully doesn’t have to…
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Romy is among the bench starters. The Sox weren’t and shouldn’t have been counting on him to carry them either…
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You don’t think the Cubs are trying? Or the Blue Jays? Really, I don’t get the argument that the Red Sox are not. I think Theyre clearly trying to win, just not in a way many fans like…
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I loved the Houck/Whitlock bullpen, even if Houck was the closer. But to his credit, Houck was an impressive SP last year. I think the Sox can bolster next year’s BP with Guerrero, Slaten and Fitts in front of Whitlock/Chapman. And Sandlin and Luis Perales as bullpen depth in Worcester…
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So what are the three - and you’re limited to three - teams that are “trying to be good”? At least one of the Mets, Phillies, Dodgers and Yankees is already off your list. Maybe more if you think the Cubs, Giants, Rangers, etc. are not trying…
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Minimum of two playing every night, yes. Its hard to win when you’re bench to start the season is now I’m getting close to 30% of your PA…
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It wasn’t just two rookies and a few pitchers you expected to get hurt. Fangraphs had the Sox losing 14 fWAR due to injury, fourth most in MLB. But that’s insignificant? Sure they could have made the roster stronger, but thats doesn’t mean the injuries did not make an impact because “every team has them.”
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Even if said rookie was clearly making an impact?
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Maybe because they’re not left with Hamilton, Eaton, Refsnyder, etc. every night.
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Maybe the Sox need to start listening to me when o say “put Fitts in the bullpen!” Just like I did with Whitlock as the Sox were repeatedly trying to square peg him into the rotation. I think I’m going to update my resume for that GM position. Anyone want to “vouch” for the work I did getting the Padres bullpen back in shape? Or should I use a lower profile team like the Nats or Royals?
