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  1. If the reports are true, then it is apparent that the Sox have no intention of keeping Bogaerts, IMO.
  2. A one on one comparison like that is not fair.
  3. Bingo. How many people were all in with the David Price contract, only to turn around and complain about him for most of his contract. We keep assuming that players like Devers will produce big in the first half of the contract, and that the contract won't be a burden until the latter years. It's quite possible that a player might stop producing at such a high level very early in the contract. Imagine having 10-12 years of that kind of dead money.
  4. ^^ This. Please, someone offer me $300M. Heck, I'm not greedy. I'll take $20M. LOL
  5. I would love to know what's actually going on behind the scenes. I'm not sure that we have the right to know, but it would definitely be nice to know. Maybe they should just disclose this information to Talksox posters. If anyone has the right to know, it's us. LOL
  6. It probably wasn't a final offer. But being that it was given so close to the start of the season, and Bogaerts clearly indicated that he would not negotiate during the season, it might as well have been a final offer. Either way, I think it was a non-starter.
  7. Yes, the good thing with Devers is that we still have 2 more years to hopefully work something out. I think Bogaerts is as good as gone.
  8. If we knew that Devers would still be a plus at the tail end of the contract, then I'd do the deal in a heartbeat. Your deal is probably a lot closer to what Devers will actually get than the one I am suggesting.
  9. Just to clarify, I am not suggesting that Bradley has no potential value.
  10. Good to hear. Of course, it's far too early to know if they will amount to anything. The more prospects you acquire, the better chance you have that some will make a significant impact to the team.
  11. Both good points. I still believe that the deal was about the prospects, obviously with the hope that JBJ would improve the defense (which he will) and that he would bounce back from last year (which he very probably will). If you take the prospects out of the deal, would the Sox have made the trade? I'm thinking not a chance.
  12. Yeah, it's fun to debate, but I think it's a moot point. There is virtually no chance the Sox will agree to that kind of contract.
  13. There is a good chance that Devers would be worth the total value of the contract, with a significant part of that value coming in the first third of that long deal. But it's really, really hard to eat that kind of money for that many years if the deal should go south for the last 5 or 6 years. The value that we received in the first 8 years won't help the team any in the last 6 years. Those are the kinds of deals that can lead to eventual cliffs.
  14. I understand where you're coming from. We all really hope we can keep Devers. For me, there is a limit to how much I would pay him. Also for me, the number of years is more important than the AAV. I cannot see offering more than 8 years, despite the advantage of lowering the AAV. If the Sox do give Devers a 10 or 14 year contract, I will embrace Devers and happily welcome his long term stay with us. At the same time, I will shudder at the contract.
  15. It's really hard to know what's going on. Is one side trying to make the other side look bad? With the Judge situation, the words came straight from the horse's mouth. With this situation, we don't know who the source was. My guess is that the offer was better than what's being reported, but still quite short of what Bogaerts is looking for. My guess is that Bogaerts is feeling a bit disrespected by the offer. My guess is that Bogaerts is hoping for $30M a year and I don't think the Sox will grant that.
  16. It's not just $5M x 6 years. I know that's what the difference in the two contracts amounts to, but for payroll purposes, it's still $20M a year. And that would be a time when Devers is likely in decline and no longer living up to the value of the contract. To me, those extra 6 years are a huge deal breaker. I get the benefit of lowering the AAV for the luxury tax, but I'd rather pay a player more for his most productive years and not have to worry about how to deal with him at the tail end of a long contract. It's very possible that Devers is still quite productive. It's just as possible that he won't be. Miguel Cabrera immediately comes to mind.
  17. Outside of the Dombrowski years, when Henry went against his philosophy of not signing a pitcher in his 30s to a big contract, I think the Sox have been pretty consistent with their budget plans. I'm not seeing that they keep changing their budget plans. The fact that they might sign one player to a 5 year deal, then pass on another player for 5 years is not a change in plans. It's more a matter of circumstances. As far as the speculated offer to Bogaerts, first off, I don't think it's accurate. However, if it is accurate, I agree that it is quite disrespectful to Bogaerts. Dare I say it's a head scratcher.
  18. I think the Sox would offer Devers $220/8. That's reasonable. I don't think there's a chance that Devers accepts that, however. I pretty much agree with your post.
  19. Well, that's a bigger difference in AAV than I was talking about. But to answer your question, yes, I would prefer the former. With the $290/14 having an AAV of just over $20M, I'd go with something like $200/8 with an AAV of $25M.
  20. Their offense will live and die by the long ball. Like last year, it seems that we don't see a lot of multi-hit rallies with this team. If they're not hitting home runs, they're not scoring runs.
  21. Boone did something right. Good for him. LOL
  22. I honestly have not followed the 2 prospects at all (I don't even remember their names), but I never believed the trade was about getting JBJ back. It was about the prospects. Whatever JBJ gives the team is gravy.
  23. I don't think Bloom should disclose what the offer was. Nor do I think Cashman was right to do so. It's almost like Cashman is trying to paint Judge in a bad light with the fans. It seems to have worked also. The boos have been raining down on him. FTR, I think Cashman's offer was very fair, and I think Judge's demands are unreasonable. But that still doesn't make it right for Cashman to publicly announce what his offer was.
  24. If that is indeed what the Sox offered Bogaerts, I think it's along the lines of the offer to Lester. Not good.
  25. I would also. Not that I would go crazy on a Devers extension either, but I'd go crazy on a Devers extension before I'd go crazy on a pitcher's contract.
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