Bellhorn04
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Oh yeah. They deserved to have the franchise moved. They didn't deserve to have their best shot at a title rubbed out, though. And of course it's the fans who actually care and show up to the games that get punished...
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It did, but for any long-term fans 1994 still leaves a horrible taste. My father lost interest in baseball after that. The poor folks known as Montreal Expos fans are still bitter about it, deservedly so. It left a mark, and the mark remains.
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Yeah, there's nothing wrong with saying a move like this is questionable, because there are a bunch of X factors. If Renfroe has a good 2022 and JBJ bombs, and the prospects don't work out, it's pretty hard to call it a good deal!
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Not sure I agree. If we get nothing from JBJ I think that makes the deal questionable, unless the prospects are MUCH better than their rankings.
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All I know is that baseball has a shameful history of giving fans abbreviated seasons because of labor-management disputes: 1972 1981 1994 1995 Will 2022 be added to the list?
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Yes, I've seen some streaky hitters, but JBJ might be the streakiest of them all.
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Dalbec too, right?
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In 2020, of course, he had a 1.5 fWAR in 55 games, which projects to about a 4 fWAR in 150 games. And no, I don't expect a 4 fWAR from him in 2022. I'd take the 1.5 and run, though.
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Probably due more to the money invested than deserving to get them, I'm afraid.
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I know one thing, JBJ will be starting off next season due. Because he went homerless in his last 161 PA's in 2021. Yikes!
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Renfroe is projected to get a raise from 3.1 to 7.6 this year. If he gets a similar bump in year 3 that's about 12 mill. That's where I'm getting the 19 mill estimate for 2 years for Renfroe. -
Yeah, yeah, you're just sticking up for your old buddy moon.
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No, the total difference is $5 mill over 2 years. $24 -19 = $5.
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Well, sort of. "Head-scratcher" implies you don't understand it, no?
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But it's also JBJ's 24 mill vs. Renfroe's 18-19 mill for 2 years. The total net difference, assuming both of them play well enough to stick around for the 2 years, is 5-6 mill.
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I think your repeated use of the phrase "head-scratcher" might be the whole problem here LOL
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But of course you have to look long term. ERod is a 77 mill investment. This trade has no impact on that kind of investment.
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It doesn't bother me that much. I just don't get why this deal confounds you. We've already seen other examples of Bloom buying prospects, like the Ottavino deal.
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And they're not going to do anything until the season is in jeopardy. We've seen this movie before.
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JBJ is no bargain, on that we agree.
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Yeah, but in this case Bloom's reasoning is obvious. Prospects + defensive upgrade + hope for offensive bounce-back. Your head-scratching should be over.
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What boatload of money?
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Well if that's been your point all along, why are you still head-scratching?
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You do realize that Renfroe was coming off a 160 season when Bloom acquired him? That guys like Renfroe and JBJ tend to fluctuate with the bat?
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Two better players for the difference between JBJ's money and Renfroe's money? Say what?
