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Of course I remember, Fred. And I've never denied that guys who predict doom and gloom all the time are going to be right sometimes.

2 more LOBsters. Scored a run and drove up Tillman's pitch count at least.

You're right, Fred, we shoulda signed Drew.

Hold the phone on the trade Carp idea, I guess LOL

2 innings 4 LOBsters. Right on pace.

Erik Bedard AKA 'The White Flag of Surrender' pitching for the Rays. Talk about a game being over before it starts.

It's almost like they're trying to sabotage the thing.

They nixed the original deal, but then they came up with another proposal that would have added something like 12 million to the cost. The Sox balked, thinking they'd be able to revisit, and then Aaron Boone played some hoops.

Hey look, it's certainly a possibility that the Sox brass f***ed up. As we all know they also badly wanted A-Rod and threw away the deal for something like 12 million dollars or so that they didn't want to up their bid by. But as far as not closing the deal on Teixeira goes, my feeling is that when you're dealing with Scotty Boras and he's got the Yankees on the line too, you're not in a great position. I suspect it was the same type of thing as A-Rod. Henry and Lucchino had a top figure in mind and they weren't going to increase it.

Does anybody here know all the exact details about the Teixeira negotiations? I don't think so. Remember that Boras was his agent at the time. There were stories later that the Red Sox came into the meeting thinking that they had a deal, but that the deal Boras proposed was different from the one they thought they had. Supposedly that was when Lucchino went a little nuts on Boras. Then after the meeting Henry said that the Red Sox were out of it. I have my doubts that the Yankees only swooped in after that meeting. I think Boras had probably been in contact with them. It would be very un-Boras like not to try to get the Yankees involved - as we all know, he wants every dollar that's out there. Anyway we could re-hash it till Doomsday, it doesn't really matter.

Can you imagine how motivated Lester is this year? A bad season might only get him a $75 million contract. An outstanding season might get him $150 million. (Rough figures all.) It's like he's got a $75 million bonus on the line.

There, a joke that was worthy of you.

FWIW Red Sox COO Sam Kennedy checked in with Dennis & Callahan on Thursday morning. The other big Red Sox news over the last week relates to the negotiations for a new contract with left-hander Jon Lester. A recent report indicated the Red Sox made a lowball offer of about $70 million for four years. “You have to remember, we’re starting from a place where the Red Sox, from John Henry on down to Jon Lester, want to make a deal. That’s the starting place. I think everybody feels good about that,” Kennedy said. “The problem with negotiations and details from baseball negotiations getting into the public domain when you have a leak like we did this past week related to this deal is one data point gets into the media, gets out there, gets dissected. I can tell you there are lots of other data points related to this negotiation that are not in the public spotlight, in the media. All I’ll say is that Ben Cherington, Jon Lester, Larry Lucchino, our ownership group will continue to work on this. And it’s clearly best when baseball discussions are kept private, and then baseball decisions are made public. That’s been our philosophy. “Do we want to see Jon Lester in a Red Sox uniform for a long, long time? Absolutely, yes. As a fan, I hope that he is with us for a long, long time. We’ll see where things go over the coming weeks and months. But I’m hopeful that we do end up getting something done there.”

Oh I was thinking of a few. Semien flies out. Semien is running down the first base line.

Exactly.

Any win is a good win, that's for sure. I still can't believe how bad the offence is so far. Last night they started 3 for 3 and then went 3 for their next 41, with the first 2 of those hits being infield hits.

Wow, the first two hitters for the White Sox are Eaton - Semien.

Couldn't be expected to repeat 2013 even if we did keep those 3.

They have work to do just to get to stinking.

Fred is Fred. I've been reading his posts since 2007 so I'm completely immune now from being bothered by them. Maybe in 5 more years I'll be the same way about SoxSport's posts.

Damn, when I read this I thought maybe some Cubs runs were on the board. Disappointing.

The Houston Astros have a team batting average of .185.

Well, you're right, it is all a fantasy world. But it's obviously one we need, isn't it?

If the offer from the Red Sox really was 4 years, $70 million, it's just a ridiculously low offer. The 5 year, $82.5 million contract that the Yankees gave A. J. Burnett after the 2008 season set the bar at the time for #2 pitchers. That was 5 years ago, and there has been huge inflation in pitcher salaries since then. That same year, Derek Lowe got 4 years, $60 million, and he was going to turn 36 that season.

You do realize that Miggy, Pujols, Cano, Votto, Fielder, Mauer, Verlander and King Felix don't play for the Yankees or Dodgers right?