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Posted
27 minutes ago, notin said:

Pic is not loading, but I assume it’s Harrison?

In a trade involving 2 players with 5+ years of control, it’s premature to declare it a bust after 2 months..

Yup it’s Harrison. As I said I don’t need to wait 7 years to realize this kid is legit. 

What I have heard is that MIL have helped him to tune his wind up and other things a bit to get this results. Guy is a legit CY contender. 

He probably wouldn’t have improved or be this good here anyways. I don’t trust our system.  

Old-Timey Member
Posted
6 minutes ago, notin said:

Are they?

Teel is injured and Montgomery is still in the minors, but I live in Chicago and Meidroth Mania is very well under control.

Now Murakawi Mania and Colson Montgomery (no relation) Mania are running wild…

Listening to the announcers I assume they love what they are getting from him thus far. I would be excited about this kid as well. Again he’s hitting 270 and OBPing 340 last time I checked. How many in our lineup are posting that? I’ll wait. 

Old-Timey Member
Posted
3 minutes ago, iortiz said:

Listening to the announcers I assume they love what they are getting from him thus far. I would be excited about this kid as well. Again he’s hitting 270 and OBPing 340 last time I checked. How many in our lineup are posting that? I’ll wait. 

IKF.  You know, the guy everyone wants released…

Old-Timey Member
Posted
4 minutes ago, notin said:

IKF.  You know, the guy everyone wants released…


We are that fcked, but good for him, and hopefully he keeps going although he will regress sooner than later IMO.

Who else pal?

Old-Timey Member
Posted
3 minutes ago, notin said:

Pivetta was offered a QO but declined.  No trade.

I don’t think you are seeing the point pal. 

Old-Timey Member
Posted

Digging into Meidroth’s numbers, kid is more than solid. Last 15 days is OBPing 370 and with 5 HRs already. We would be praising him right now if he was here. 

Community Moderator
Posted
35 minutes ago, iortiz said:

He probably wouldn’t have improved or be this good here anyways. I don’t trust our system.  

So it's better that they traded him away then! 

Community Moderator
Posted
7 minutes ago, iortiz said:

Digging into Meidroth’s numbers, kid is more than solid. Last 15 days is OBPing 370 and with 5 HRs already. We would be praising him right now if he was here. 

BOS as a team has a 348 OBP over the past 15 days.

15 day OBP

Duran 400 (6 HR's in that timeframe)

IKF 475

Contreras 468

Gasper 393

Wong 385

Old-Timey Member
Posted
3 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

So it's better that they traded him away then! 

Sadly, that’s probably correct. 

Old-Timey Member
Posted
1 minute ago, mvp 78 said:

BOS as a team has a 348 OBP over the past 15 days.

15 day OBP

Duran 400 (6 HR's in that timeframe)

IKF 475

Contreras 468

Gasper 393

Wong 385

Imagine having Meidroth as well and at 2B. 

Old-Timey Member
Posted
9 minutes ago, iortiz said:

Digging into Meidroth’s numbers, kid is more than solid. Last 15 days is OBPing 370 and with 5 HRs already. We would be praising him right now if he was here. 

You do realize the Sox traded him for their ace that finished second in Cy Young ladt year, right?  Would you prefer Crrochet or Meidroth on your team?

And if your argument is he was the obvious better prospect than Campbell’s or Mayer, then why do you think CWS accepts either of them over Meidroth?
 

 

Old-Timey Member
Posted
4 minutes ago, iortiz said:

Imagine having Meidroth as well and at 2B. 

Meidroth to date is Nick Sogard. 
 

I expect Meidroth to surpass Nick as he is 4 years younger.  But I’d still rather have Sogard and Crochet…

Old-Timey Member
Posted
8 minutes ago, notin said:

You do realize the Sox traded him for their ace that finished second in Cy Young ladt year, right?  Would you prefer Crrochet or Meidroth on your team?

And if your argument is he was the obvious better prospect than Campbell’s or Mayer, then why do you think CWS accepts either of them over Meidroth?
 

 

Because Mayer and Campbell were better ranked at the time. 

Old-Timey Member
Posted
4 minutes ago, iortiz said:

Because Mayer and Campbell were better ranked at the time. 

So then why was Boston wrong for keeoing them over Meidroth?

Old-Timey Member
Posted
15 minutes ago, notin said:

Meidroth to date is Nick Sogard. 
 

I expect Meidroth to surpass Nick as he is 4 years younger.  But I’d still rather have Sogard and Crochet…

Right now? I’d rather Meidroth over Sogard, Mayer, and Campbell every day of the week and twice on Sundays. Probably an unpopular opinion but that’s me, and I would bet to anybody that Meidroth will be the better player when all is said and done than any of the latter. 

Also why are you bringing Crochet to the discussion? It has nothing to do with the discussion. 

Old-Timey Member
Posted
6 minutes ago, notin said:

So then why was Boston wrong for keeoing them over Meidroth?

I don’t think you are following me pal. Rankings can say whatever they want what matters is how you evaluate and project your players. It’s early but I think they didn’t rank and project them well. 

Old-Timey Member
Posted

Also if Sogard had been Meidroth he would have been our titular 2B in the last 3 years. 

Community Moderator
Posted
33 minutes ago, iortiz said:

Imagine having Meidroth as well and at 2B. 

I liked Meidroth when he was in the org. I was higher on him than SoxProspects was. Thought he could at least be a good UTIL guy for them since the Red Sox didn't see him as a starter. 

Community Moderator
Posted
16 minutes ago, iortiz said:

Also why are you bringing Crochet to the discussion? It has nothing to do with the discussion. 

Trading Meidroth brought them Crochet. That's part of the calculation here.

Old-Timey Member
Posted
19 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

I liked Meidroth when he was in the org. I was higher on him than SoxProspects was. Thought he could at least be a good UTIL guy for them since the Red Sox didn't see him as a starter. 

I’ve been betting on CHW often lately and have had the opportunity to watch him. I love this kid. Man, kid will often give you a quality AB making the pitcher work at the very least. I appreciate that a lot from a hitter. IMO the CHW have found their 2B  of the future. 

Old-Timey Member
Posted
18 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Trading Meidroth brought them Crochet. That's part of the calculation here.

I get it, but that was not my point. My point all along was trading Campbell instead. I don’t see Campbell taking another AB again at MLB level in Red Sox uniform, and if so, performing well. Hopefully I’m dead wrong though. 

Community Moderator
Posted
11 minutes ago, iortiz said:

I’ve been betting on CHW often lately and have had the opportunity to watch him. I love this kid. Man, kid will often give you a quality AB making the pitcher work at the very least. I appreciate that a lot from a hitter. IMO the CHW have found their 2B  of the future. 

He sees 4.09 pitches per plate appearance. The only '26 Red Sox to see more are Anthony, Monasterio and Narvaez. 10 of 15 Red Sox hitters see a below league average amount of pitchers per plate appearance. 

Community Moderator
Posted
11 minutes ago, iortiz said:

I get it, but that was not my point. My point all along was trading Campbell instead. I don’t see Campbell taking another AB again at MLB level in Red Sox uniform, and if so, performing well. Hopefully I’m dead wrong though. 

Having them trade the MiLB Player of the Year instead of a guy ranked in the teens for the org is kinda crazy don't you think? Swapping those two doesn't make sense. If you want to move KC, get more value than a return of a guy well outside the top 100. 

Old-Timey Member
Posted
32 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Having them trade the MiLB Player of the Year instead of a guy ranked in the teens for the org is kinda crazy don't you think? Swapping those two doesn't make sense. If you want to move KC, get more value than a return of a guy well outside the top 100. 

As I said, one thing is what rankings say and another what you actually project when you see them in minors everyday. Clearly they projected that Campbell and Mayer will be better than Meidroth. IMO it won’t be the case. Time will tell though, but thus far Meidroth has been the winning horse. 
 

And yes, probably giving up Campbell/Mayer instead would have meant keeping Teel or Montgomery as well. 

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