Blue Jays (Berrios) vs Red Sox (Bello): 6/27/25, 7:10pm

[illinoisredsox]

Just now, Maxbialystock said:

Looks like a pretty good crowd tonight, who so far are being cheated.  

Only half of them; the other half are Blue Jays fans who came down.

That’s part of the Henry dilemma; the only thing that will affect his view is less people in the stands, but opponents fans keep filling up the stadium.

[Maxbialystock]

I hate Fenway in all its decrepitude, high prices, lousy sight lines, etc. but it is very photogenic.   

[Maxbialystock]

Just now, illinoisredsox said:

Only half of them; the other half are Blue Jays fans who came down.

That’s part of the Henry dilemma; the only thing that will affect his view is less people in the stands, but opponents fans keep filling up the stadium.

Actually, no.  The Sox average attendance has stayed around 32,500 for 4 seasons in a row, including this one.  In fact, this year and last year are almost identical, 32,800 per game.  

[illinoisredsox]

Wouldn’t shock me to see Bello actually get through 6 allowing only the 3 runs for another “quality” start.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

5 minutes ago, Maxbialystock said:

Looks like a pretty good crowd tonight, who so far are being cheated.  

"Haven't you heard about the guy known as the cheater?"

His initials are JH.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

5 minutes ago, illinoisredsox said:

Wouldn’t shock me to see Bello actually get through 6 allowing only the 3 runs for another “quality” start.

I believe a quality start s/b 2 earned runs or less through 5 innings.

[FredLynn]

I think the worst part about this team (aside from the fact that they are nearly all bums) is that they’re boring. They make the same mistakes over and over and over again. Too many errors (leading the league-AGAIN); swinging at balls a foot outside the strike zone; losing one run games; getting behind in the first inning; no power etc

BORING!

[Maxbialystock]

5 minutes ago, illinoisredsox said:

Wouldn’t shock me to see Bello actually get through 6 allowing only the 3 runs for another “quality” start.

The stats now say that going 6 innings and giving up 3 runs is actually pretty good because the pitcher will have faced the batting order 3 times.   All pitchers turn into pumpkins the 3d time through the order. 

I actually think a lot depends on what the pitcher is throwing and how well.  

So far Berrios looks good for 12 or 13 innings.  That freaking slurve is killing us.  

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Walking back to the dugout with the bat in their hand has become an art form for this Sox team.

[illinoisredsox]

Rafaela didn’t bust it out of the box there, but that actually turned out to be fortuitous; LF made an almost perfect play and a good accurate throw that probably nails him at 2nd if he had tried to go.

[notin]

There’s no way they replace Devers’ production this year.  Without it, this lineup is listless…

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Wong is on pace for a 2 RBI season.

[FredLynn]

Just now, notin said:

There’s no way they replace Devers’ production this year.  Without it, this lineup is listless…

It was listless when he was here.

[Maxbialystock]

Hmmmmm.  I thought Rafaela has a double on that shot, but the replay shows him strolling to 1b assuming he was out. 

OK, problem solved.  Wong just K'd and Sogard flied out.  

On to the 6th.  

[notin]

7 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Wong is on pace for a 2 RBI season.

I’ll take the over…

[Oscars]

The average OPS of tonight’s lineup is .629, so it’s no surprise they are stinking it up against a good pitcher 

[notin]

7 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

It was listless when he was here.

No, it was not.  They were a top 5 scoring team before the trade.  Now they’re a bunch of complimentary players with no one to compliment…

[moonslav59]

We have our 3 hits. Does that mean we are done for the night?

[FredLynn]

Toro tosses the ball into LF  on a potential DP ball.

More little league baseball.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Just now, notin said:

I’ll take the over…

So you're going with the blind squirrel theory.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

1 minute ago, moonslav59 said:

We have our 3 hits. Does that mean we are done for the night?

Not till they get double digit K's 

[FredLynn]

Just now, notin said:

No, it was not.  They were a top 5 scoring team before the trade.  Now they’re a bunch of complimentary players with no one to compliment…

The have lost what-14 one run games? If they were less listless they should have won half of them 

[Maxbialystock]

2 minutes ago, notin said:

There’s no way they replace Devers’ production this year.  Without it, this lineup is listless…

Without Devers and Bregman.  Plus the pitching stinks.  When the pitching was great in those 6 straight wins, we didn't need Bregman or Raffy because the Sox gave up just 8 runs in those 6 games. 

I thought Devers was a terrific DH, but also pricey because the Sox are also paying DH Yoshida his $16.8M.  

Could someone please explain to why some dirtbags claim Cora refuses to let a starter throw more than 80 or 90 pitched even when they are pitching well?   

 

[notin]

3 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

We have our 3 hits. Does that mean we are done for the night?

No.

 

Theyre done until the ninth when they will score 2 runs and lose by 1….

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Just now, Maxbialystock said:

Without Devers and Bregman.  Plus the pitching stinks.  When the pitching was great in those 6 straight wins, we didn't need Bregman or Raffy because the Sox gave up just 8 runs in those 6 games. 

I thought Devers was a terrific DH, but also pricey because the Sox are also paying DH Yoshida his $16.8M.  

Could someone please explain to why some dirtbags claim Cora refuses to let a starter throw more than 80 or 90 pitched even when they are pitching well?   

 

So they won't be tired for the  PO's.

[notin]

2 minutes ago, Maxbialystock said:

Without Devers and Bregman.  Plus the pitching stinks.  When the pitching was great in those 6 straight wins, we didn't need Bregman or Raffy because the Sox gave up just 8 runs in those 6 games. 

I thought Devers was a terrific DH, but also pricey because the Sox are also paying DH Yoshida his $16.8M.  

Could someone please explain to why some dirtbags claim Cora refuses to let a starter throw more than 80 or 90 pitched even when they are pitching well?   

 

I can explain.

Its because Cora hates us…

[Maxbialystock]

3 minutes ago, notin said:

No, it was not.  They were a top 5 scoring team before the trade.  Now they’re a bunch of complimentary players with no one to compliment…

One more time.  The problem is that the Sox are without both Bregman and Raffy.  Plus Duran is having a so-so season and Casas is also on the IL.  

The Giants have had Raffy for 9 games and their record was/is identical to ours, 3-6.  

I would love to have Raffy back as the DH.  But he would not be able to save this team without Bregman and better pitching.  

[FredLynn]

3 minutes ago, Maxbialystock said:

Without Devers and Bregman.  Plus the pitching stinks.  When the pitching was great in those 6 straight wins, we didn't need Bregman or Raffy because the Sox gave up just 8 runs in those 6 games. 

I thought Devers was a terrific DH, but also pricey because the Sox are also paying DH Yoshida his $16.8M.  

Could someone please explain to why some dirtbags claim Cora refuses to let a starter throw more than 80 or 90 pitched even when they are pitching well?   

 

Cora (and Breslow) need to be replaced. Breslow because he’s doing a crap job and Cora because the entire management team needs to go in order to start over. THIS ain’t working….

 

[FredLynn]

Just now, Maxbialystock said:

One more time.  The problem is that the Sox are without both Bregman and Raffy.  Plus Duran is having a so-so season and Casas is also on the IL.  

The Giants have had Raffy for 9 games and their record was/is identical to ours, 3-6.  

I would love to have Raffy back as the DH.  But he would not be able to save this team without Bregman and better pitching.  

Why did we suck the past four years?

[Maxbialystock]

4 minutes ago, notin said:

No.

 

Theyre done until the ninth when they will score 2 runs and lose by 1….

Well said.