Passan: Boston Red Sox Optioning Kristian Campbell

[drewski6]

35 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

They wanted him on the team regardless of how he played in ST. Seemed obvious that (a) Roman was playing well and should have been promoted, (b) Marcello was playing well but hadn't played any AAA so it made sense to have him start there for a little while and (c ) Campbell was playing poorly and may need a few more weeks in AAA even though he looked great in AAA in '24. 

Agreed with the bold, and a lot of the reason was not because he looked ready (the fact that he had recent experience at 2b, could play other positions as well, was a righty)

[mvp 78]

7 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

Agreed with the bold, and a lot of the reason was not because he looked ready (the fact that he had recent experience at 2b, could play other positions as well, was a righty)

It was because he probably had already agreed to terms on that extension... 

[drewski6]

21 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

It was because he probably had already agreed to terms on that extension... 

And was a righty

[illinoisredsox]

38 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

It was because he probably had already agreed to terms on that extension... 

This

[cp176]

3 hours ago, notin said:

Think Campbell plays 2b or 1b in Worcester?

The Sox know they cannot rely on ToRoGo at 1b all season, and dont have an in house candidate except the recently-promoted Blaze Jordan.  If they don’t want to keep throwing rookies at the problems and hoping they stick,  maybe this demotion was as much about Campbell getting some reps at a new position as it is about his limited offense.

Kind of makes some sense when you realize he didn’t get demoted after his .360 OPS for the month of May.  But he raised it about 300 points in June and got optioned…

It would make sense to have him play first - maybe too much sense.  When Bregman comes back, his chances of playing second again might be the classic slim and none.

[mvp 78]

6 minutes ago, cp176 said:

It would make sense to have him play first - maybe too much sense.  When Bregman comes back, his chances of playing second again might be the classic slim and none.

Mayer was getting a lot of time at 2b prior to Breggie's injury. 

[cp176]

4 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Mayer was getting a lot of time at 2b prior to Breggie's injury. 

As long as we have Bregman and Story on the roster, Campbell won’t see much second base action.

[TedYazPapiMookie]

4 hours ago, TheSplinteredSplendor said:

Another absolutely silly post.

First off, last I checked, managers don't decide who gets sent down. Not to mention that cora has sat anthony often and also made him do outfield drills in front of reporters after misplaying a ball. Hardly signs of favoritism.

Secondly, campbell has had 229 AB's, while mayer just 59 and anthony just 27. If they are in the same sad state as campbell at 230 AB's, then they should be sent back down as well.

If betting 3rd when you have the worst average on the team isn't favoritism, give me a word that fits better!!!

Your last comment needs to be a gentleman's bet.  You stated correctly they should be sent down too and I see no way that will happen based on Cora's history.  Remember, Cora was the guy sitting Campbell when his average was higher than both Mayer and Anthony the days before he got sent down.  That's on Cora.  Breslow deciding that if you won't play him then I'm sending him down to train is the right move by Breslow but that's all on the dbag Cora.

I hope you are right they will send them down but with Hamilton up batting nearly as badly as Anthony, the prejudice is extremely apparent.

[TheSplinteredSplendor]

5 minutes ago, TedYazPapiMookie said:

If betting 3rd when you have the worst average on the team isn't favoritism, give me a word that fits better!!!

Your last comment needs to be a gentleman's bet.  You stated correctly they should be sent down too and I see no way that will happen based on Cora's history.  Remember, Cora was the guy sitting Campbell when his average was higher than both Mayer and Anthony the days before he got sent down.  That's on Cora.  Breslow deciding that if you won't play him then I'm sending him down to train is the right move by Breslow but that's all on the dbag Cora.

I hope you are right they will send them down but with Hamilton up batting nearly as badly as Anthony, the prejudice is extremely apparent.

Again, the manager doesn't decide who gets sent down to the minors.

And cora has played campbell plenty, hence the reason he has 230 AB's.

Smh.....

[TedYazPapiMookie]

10 minutes ago, TheSplinteredSplendor said:

Again, the manager doesn't decide who gets sent down to the minors.

And cora has played campbell plenty, hence the reason he has 230 AB's.

Smh.....

If you didn't notice Cora playing Hamilton for Campbell that's ok.  It happened and that left the top prospect watching games at the MLB level and not playing them.  If he had just sat one game, it's resting the player.  Cora sat him multiple games which is called wasting him so Hamilton gets reps.  This gives Breslow the chance to explain he sent him down because Cora refused to play him and wanted Hamilton to get his reps.  That's negligence on Cora's part and is the politically correct way to document why Cora needs to go and Breslow needs to bring his own manager to the team.

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Grissom is not a major league hitter.  He has a 728 OPS at Woo with a feeble 386 SLG.

True, but .700 at BOS would beat KC, and his D is no worse than KC.

 .600 would beat DHam, but not his D.

[moonslav59]

5 minutes ago, TedYazPapiMookie said:

If you didn't notice Cora playing Hamilton for Campbell that's ok.  It happened and that left the top prospect watching games at the MLB level and not playing them.  If he had just sat one game, it's resting the player.  Cora sat him multiple games which is called wasting him so Hamilton gets reps.  This gives Breslow the chance to explain he sent him down because Cora refused to play him and wanted Hamilton to get his reps.  That's negligence on Cora's part and is the politically correct way to document why Cora needs to go and Breslow needs to bring his own manager to the team.

I'll take a bite at this...

BA (Your choice of stats, not mine) since April 30th (a significant sample size that is larger than April alone's.)

.222 DHam

.220 Mayer

.207 Abreu

.200 Story

.190 Wong

.154 Campbell

.074 Anthony

DHam >> KC on 2b Defense, too.

.983 DHam>> .968 KC using your stat, not mine, Flg%

OPS? DHam .564> Campbell .451

[notin]

25 minutes ago, TheSplinteredSplendor said:

Again, the manager doesn't decide who gets sent down to the minors.

And cora has played campbell plenty, hence the reason he has 230 AB's.

Smh.....

Do you really think the manager has no input of who gets sent down?

[mvp 78]

1 hour ago, TedYazPapiMookie said:

Remember, Cora was the guy sitting Campbell when his average was higher than both Mayer and Anthony the days before he got sent down. 

Since 6/9 when Roman first played: 

Roman 074

Campbell 130

Mayer 217

Campbell hasn't been good since April. That's why he was sent down. Roman may get sent down eventually. Who knows? 

[mvp 78]

37 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

OPS? DHam .564> Campbell .451

Breggie 3b

Mayer SS

Story 2b

It's the only way to fix this.

[TheSplinteredSplendor]

2 hours ago, notin said:

Do you really think the manager has no input of who gets sent down?

Never said that, but he certainly doesn't have the final say.

[mvp 78]

 

[TheSplinteredSplendor]

2 hours ago, TedYazPapiMookie said:

If you didn't notice Cora playing Hamilton for Campbell that's ok.  It happened and that left the top prospect watching games at the MLB level and not playing them.  If he had just sat one game, it's resting the player.  Cora sat him multiple games which is called wasting him so Hamilton gets reps.  This gives Breslow the chance to explain he sent him down because Cora refused to play him and wanted Hamilton to get his reps.  That's negligence on Cora's part and is the politically correct way to document why Cora needs to go and Breslow needs to bring his own manager to the team.

If you didn't notice that campbell has had over twice as many AB's as hamilton and has a lower BA/OPS over the last 30 games while having twice as many AB's that's ok. It happened and that left you continuing to make excuses.

The fact is that campbell has had far more AB's over the last 7, 15 and 30 games sample sizes.

[TheSplinteredSplendor]

5 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

 

Given his .319 OBP, the surest way to see him on first is with a first baseman's glove in his hand.

[dgalehouse]

 Campbell has a ton of ability. And he seems like a really good kid. He will emerge from this stronger and be better off for it. I see him as a big part of the Sox' success in the years to come. 

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, TheSplinteredSplendor said:

If you didn't notice that campbell has had over twice as many AB's as hamilton and has a lower BA/OPS over the last 30 games while having twice as many AB's that's ok. It happened and that left you continuing to make excuses.

The fact is that campbell has had far more AB's over the last 7, 15 and 30 games sample sizes.

Not sure how playing the worse batter and worse fielder is "politically correct," either.

Not even bringing up the baserunning.

[moonslav59]

28 minutes ago, dgalehouse said:

 Campbell has a ton of ability. And he seems like a really good kid. He will emerge from this stronger and be better off for it. I see him as a big part of the Sox' success in the years to come. 

Agreed. 

Refocus. Make adjustments. See you again.

[Maxbialystock]

On 6/19/2025 at 4:56 PM, sk7326 said:

Going back down is not a crime - he moved very quickly ... about time he see some adversity ... we'll see how it goes 

Well said.  

[Maxbialystock]

4 hours ago, TedYazPapiMookie said:

If you didn't notice Cora playing Hamilton for Campbell that's ok.  It happened and that left the top prospect watching games at the MLB level and not playing them.  If he had just sat one game, it's resting the player.  Cora sat him multiple games which is called wasting him so Hamilton gets reps.  This gives Breslow the chance to explain he sent him down because Cora refused to play him and wanted Hamilton to get his reps.  That's negligence on Cora's part and is the politically correct way to document why Cora needs to go and Breslow needs to bring his own manager to the team.

Meh.  It's all on Campbell and not Cora or Breslow.  He's got talent and a long term contract.  As others have said, watching Campbell has become painful, so it's possible it's been painful for him too.   With the security of that contract, he should be eager to work on his hitting at Worcester.  

Hamilton wasn't/isn't "getting reps."  He's at 2b because his fielding is better.  If he ever gets on base, he's also a good baserunner.  He's a lefty bat in a righty pitcher universe--so it's remotely possible he might get a hit now and then. 

 

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

8 minutes ago, Maxbialystock said:

Well said.  

Trout was sent down his 1st year with the Angels. Nuff said.

[TheSplinteredSplendor]

40 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Not sure how playing the worse batter and worse fielder is "politically correct," either.

Not even bringing up the baserunning.

This guy is something else.......

[moonslav59]

13 minutes ago, TheSplinteredSplendor said:

This guy is something else.......

To me, this isn't even as bad as thinking Duran is a better defender than Abreu, even when shown Abreu has a better Flg%, which is his go to stat.

I have a Duran/Ref DH platoon as our best solution for replacing Devers at DH.

(Rafaela & Anthony FT OF'ers with Abreu vs R and Duran v R, when not at DH v L)

[moonslav59]

Nobody is happy with a .475 OPS from DHam. His 12 SBs in 99 PAs (20 times on base) is hardly a big boost, but the fact is, this is way better than what KC was doing. Then, there's the defense.

Maybe, someday, we'll see a Grissom/Romy 2B platton, or Story/Mayer at 2B.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

With Campbell already signed to a 60 mil contract he can go to Woo and concentrate on improving his game while not having to worry about his monetary future.

[moonslav59]

If being "politically correct" is right, then I wanna be wrong.

Too bad we didn't demote DHam and do the "correct" think and keep KC on the 26.

FIRE BREZ, TODAY!