2025 Prospects

[mvp 78]

27 pitches in the first inning for Houck.

[mvp 78]

Walked the first batter in the 2nd and was pulled. 

[Larry Cook]

At Salem, Gonzales 2 for 3 and mussett was 3 for 3! 

[moonslav59]

3 hours ago, Larry Cook said:

Houck vs. max scherzer tonight in Worcester!!!!

wow!!!!!

Houck went 1 IP: 2 hits, 1BB, 0 Ks and 1 ER.

[moonslav59]

Now that KC, Mayer and Anthony are with the Red Sox, the WOO and POR line-ups look rather thin. We see a few promising players, but more dead end and AAAA types.

The GRE club has been the fun team to watch, this season, and now it's like the only team to watch.

Taking away the players now in the bigs, here are the OPS leaders at each level (non pitchers):

AAA:

.928 Jh Garcia (up to 100 PAs in AAA- the one true AAA everyday promise)

.913 Hickey (I'm still not sold, but good to see him making a move.)

.858 Jordan (not at 60 PAs w Woo, yet/ .928 w POR)

.798 Thompson (AAAA profile)

.742 Sogard (not sure he can ever be more than utility)

.719 Grissom (has some interest and chances)

.714 Sabol (AAAA catcher)

AA

.792 Romero (The only guy with real promise)

.770 Ehrhard

.768 Castro

A+

.817 Arias (GG defense, too)

.790 Bleis (on the rise)

.759 N Taylor

.716 Brannon

A-

.928 Encarnacion

.924 Anderson (100 PAs, now)

.856 Ju Gonzales

.804 Azocar

.804 Arias (promoted)

.727 Yuten

.721 Mussett

.700 Nunez

.698 Cespedes

[Larry Cook]

Jordan with his 2nd Worcester tater tonight!! 

[Larry Cook]

Mullins went 4.1 innings of 1 hit ball! The 1 hit was a tater. 7 strikeouts. 
ehrhard was 1 for 4. And got picked off 1st base. 
castro 1 for 3 with a walk 

[moonslav59]

Jordan is starting to get my attention. Maybe he was just a late bloomer.

Tibbs went 1-3 w BB.

Justin Gonzales went 2-3 and Musett 3-3.

 

[Larry Cook]

5 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Jordan is starting to get my attention. Maybe he was just a late bloomer.

Tibbs went 1-3 w BB.

Justin Gonzales went 2-3 and Musett 3-3.

 

Mussett is starting to put it together at the plate. Good at bats, still chases stuff, but I like his progress this season 

[mvp 78]

11 hours ago, Larry Cook said:

Jordan with his 2nd Worcester tater tonight!! 

I figured something must have happened because I saw a bunch of people say he needed to be called up. 🙄

[mvp 78]

I watched the GRE game and Holobetz pitched fairly well. Seemed to have some swing and miss. Offense didn't do anything. Arias looks slow running the bases to me. 

[Larry Cook]

1 hour ago, mvp 78 said:

I figured something must have happened because I saw a bunch of people say he needed to be called up. 🙄

More importantly, do we add him to the 40 man roster???

[mvp 78]

29 minutes ago, Larry Cook said:

More importantly, do we add him to the 40 man roster???

No reason to do until the end of the season or if he's needed for a callup. 

[Larry Cook]

Just now, mvp 78 said:

No reason to do until the end of the season or if he's needed for a callup. 

At the end of the season, do we add him to the 40 man roster????

[mvp 78]

Just now, Larry Cook said:

At the end of the season, do we add him to the 40 man roster????

If not, he'd get taken in the Rule 5 draft this time. 

If they don't believe in him, they'll deal him at the deadline. If he's here on August 1, he's going to get added to the 40 man at some point. 

[Larry Cook]

Just now, mvp 78 said:

If not, he'd get taken in the Rule 5 draft this time. 

If they don't believe in him, they'll deal him at the deadline. If he's here on August 1, he's going to get added to the 40 man at some point. 

That sounds fair!!  At some point they have to figure out what to do with Garcia too!!! He is already on the 40 man roster and at Worcester 

[mvp 78]

37 minutes ago, Larry Cook said:

That sounds fair!!  At some point they have to figure out what to do with Garcia too!!! He is already on the 40 man roster and at Worcester 

Rob Refsnyder replacement? Or trade fodder? 

[mvp 78]

They still need to work on fastballs though! I think they have gotten a little too far away from that IMO. Offspeed stuff is great, but they can't completely ignore the HEAT.

 

[Larry Cook]

2 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

They still need to work on fastballs though! I think they have gotten a little too far away from that IMO. Offspeed stuff is great, but they can't completely ignore the HEAT.

 

Hitters are ripping fastballs (especially 4 seamers) more than ever!!!  Easier for the hitters to tIme 
 

we have Tolle and early in the minors throwing tons of breaking balls second time through the lineup! 
 

Mongro just blew out his elbow at Greenville throwing a slider (I think) 

It started with hang’em Chaim and got huge with Bailey 

[mvp 78]

2 hours ago, Larry Cook said:

Hitters are ripping fastballs (especially 4 seamers) more than ever!!!  Easier for the hitters to tIme 
 

we have Tolle and early in the minors throwing tons of breaking balls second time through the lineup! 
 

Mongro just blew out his elbow at Greenville throwing a slider (I think) 

It started with hang’em Chaim and got huge with Bailey 

You still need to throw fastballs here and there to keep them honest (see: Bello 2024). If you develop pitchers that are unable to throw fastballs, they will struggle in MLB IMO. 

The Sox best development arm right now is Dobbins. He throws is 4 seamer (not a cutter, not a splitter) 40% of the time! 

Tolle is the Sox most exciting starting prospect in the lower levels, because of his fastball shape! 

[Larry Cook]

36 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

You still need to throw fastballs here and there to keep them honest (see: Bello 2024). If you develop pitchers that are unable to throw fastballs, they will struggle in MLB IMO. 

The Sox best development arm right now is Dobbins. He throws is 4 seamer (not a cutter, not a splitter) 40% of the time! 

Tolle is the Sox most exciting starting prospect in the lower levels, because of his fastball shape! 

Our pitchers are using the fastball to set up the breaking stuff!! 
Oddly enough, the two veterans, buehler and giolita, are struggling the most because their secondary stuff is hit or mostly miss!!?

[moonslav59]

7 hours ago, Larry Cook said:

More importantly, do we add him to the 40 man roster???

Not until December.

Here are the Rule 5 for this winter:

Miguel Bleis
Allan Castro
Isaac Coffey
Nathanael Cruz
Noah Dean
Shane Drohan
Max Ferguson
Nathan Hickey
Alex Hoppe
Blaze Jordan
Ahbram Liendo
Yordanny Monegro

Hayden Mullins
Jedixson Paez
David Sandlin
Michael Sansone
Noah Song
Tyler Uberstine
 

[moonslav59]

OPS Against Leaders on the farm (20+ IP)

.334 Clarke

.407 E Rivera

.448 Fajardo

.488 Burdi

.505 Sena

.527 Y Ruiz

.536 Mullins

.561 Criswell

.563 McShane

.571 Drohan

.578 Allmer

.581 Y Cruz

.600 Aita

Others:

.613 Early

.635 Monegro

.638 Sansone

.640 Uberstine, .645 Ingrassia, .671 Rogers

.676 Sandlin, .682 Guerrero, .685 Tolle

.743 Holobetz, .776 Mata, .803 I Campbell

.705 Wehunt. .714 Fitts, .736 Carlson

.736 

[moonslav59]

Tibbs and Ehrhard had 2 hits, each in POR's close loss.

WOO won 9-4 as Murphy pitched a scoreless inning with no hits or walks and 2 Ks. Jordan continued his rise with another 3 hits game. He's at .934 and passed Jh Garcia at .916, who had a 1-4 night. Rosier homered (.803) and Hickey keeps it warm w 2 hits.

GRE lost, but Aita looked good: 7IP, 8H, 2ER, 1BB, 3K. Bleis, Taylor and YRod had the only 3 hits. Taylor walked 3 times.

SAL lost. Cespedes (.711) and De Leon (.656) each had 2 hits.

[moonslav59]

Dobbins will graduate, soon. Campbell already did. Guerrero, Anthony and Mayer will, before long.

This may be what we see for the rankings list, this winter:

1. Arias

2. Tolle

3. Perales

4. Jh Garcia

5. Clarke

6. Early

7. Tibbs

8. Bleis

9. Ju Gonzales

10. Romero

11. Cespedes

12. Sandlin

13. Valera

14. Jordon

15. Jo Garcia

16. Taylor

17. Soto

18. Azocar

19. Ehrhard

20. Uberstine

 

 

[Larry Cook]

21 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Dobbins will graduate, soon. Campbell already did. Guerrero, Anthony and Mayer will, before long.

This may be what we see for the rankings list, this winter:

1. Arias

2. Tolle

3. Perales

4. Jh Garcia

5. Clarke

6. Early

 

 

 

You are extremely high on Tolle!  He has not even made it to Portland yet

[moonslav59]

3 minutes ago, Larry Cook said:

You are extremely high on Tolle!  He has not even made it to Portland yet

Soxprospects.com has...

3. Arias

4. Perales

5. Tolle

6. Valera

7. Jh Garcia

9. Romero

10. Clarke

11. Early

12. Sandlin

13. Bleis

14. Cespedes

15. Gonzales

(1. Anthony, 2. Mayer, 8. Dobbins will graduate.)

[Larry Cook]

21 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Dobbins will graduate, soon. Campbell already did. Guerrero, Anthony and Mayer will, before long.

This may be what we see for the rankings list, this winter:

1. Arias

2. Tolle

3. Perales

4. Jh Garcia

5. Clarke

6. Early

 

 

 

You are extremely high on Tolle!  He has not even made it to Portland yet

[moonslav59]

15 minutes ago, Larry Cook said:

You are extremely high on Tolle!  He has not even made it to Portland yet

Jh Garcia might be my #2 or 3 by November.

[mvp 78]

14 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Not until December.

Here are the Rule 5 for this winter:

Miguel Bleis
Allan Castro
Isaac Coffey
Nathanael Cruz
Noah Dean
Shane Drohan
Max Ferguson
Nathan Hickey
Alex Hoppe
Blaze Jordan
Ahbram Liendo
Yordanny Monegro

Hayden Mullins
Jedixson Paez
David Sandlin
Michael Sansone
Noah Song
Tyler Uberstine
 

Jordan

Monegro - TJS

Mullins

Paez

Sandlin

Three are protected and two are traded (maybe Monegro is left unprotected due to the TJS?). If any of the others are selected, it's not a big concern to me at this point.