Do Not Trade The Big 3

[mvp 78]

Well if you “do your homework” you would know now wouldn’t you?

 

Noah Dean was drafted out of college and is working on his second straight full year in Salem. Must have a high ceiling!

 

For reference, Early and Mullins were drafted out of college last year and started at Greenville this year. Must not be as good as Dean though?

[moonslav59]

What do Noah Dean and Blaze Jordan have in common with the other guys listed?

 

If Yorke did not bat RH'd, I might wonder why he is on this list.

 

The DHam-Romy platoon at 2B is doing okay. (Rafaela at SS.)

Valdez has already shown he can hit (RH'd pitchers.)

I'd ass Mayer to the 40, then 26, before Yorke.

[Larry Cook]

I'd trade a big 3 in a deadline deal. In fact I'd trade 2 top 4 like this...

 

Mayer (2)

Abreu (swap LHB OF for RHB OF)

Bleis (4)

any 2 from: Fitts, Sandlin, Winckowski, Valdez, Yorke, Lugo, Meidroth, Paulino, Castro

 

For

 

CF Luis Roberts Jr RHB ('25:$15M, '26:$20M club option ,'27:$20M club option)

LHP Garrett Crochet SP (2 arbs remaining)

 

1. L Duran LF

2. R Roberts CF

3. L Devers 3B

4. R O'Neill RF

5. L Casas 1B (D Smith bench LHB)

6. R Refsnyder- L Yoshida DH

7. L DHam- R Romy 2B

8. R Wong C (McGuire LHB)

9. R Rafaela SS

 

SP: Houck, Crawford, Crochet, Pivetta, Bello (Criswell- 6 man rotation/Long Releif)

RP: Jansen, Martin, Hendriks, Slaten, Bernardino, Kelly, Weissert

 

 

Do you really think Hendricks makes it back it 2024???

 

I know he threw a couple bullpen sessions.

 

But back to facing major league hitters?

[moonslav59]

Do you really think Hendricks makes it back it 2024???

 

I know he threw a couple bullpen sessions.

 

But back to facing major league hitters?

 

They say he will be, but go ahead and sub in Wink or Booser for him.

[mvp 78]

Anthony

Teel

Campbell

Garcia Bros

Early

Portes

Reyes

 

The rules are the rules and the facts are the facts!

[Tedballgame]

I'd trade a big 3 in a deadline deal. In fact I'd trade 2 top 4 like this...

 

Mayer (2)

Abreu (swap LHB OF for RHB OF)

Bleis (4)

any 2 from: Fitts, Sandlin, Winckowski, Valdez, Yorke, Lugo, Meidroth, Paulino, Castro

 

For

 

CF Luis Roberts Jr RHB ('25:$15M, '26:$20M club option ,'27:$20M club option)

LHP Garrett Crochet SP (2 arbs remaining)

 

1. L Duran LF

2. R Roberts CF

3. L Devers 3B

4. R O'Neill RF

5. L Casas 1B (D Smith bench LHB)

6. R Refsnyder- L Yoshida DH

7. L DHam- R Romy 2B

8. R Wong C (McGuire LHB)

9. R Rafaela SS

 

SP: Houck, Crawford, Crochet, Pivetta, Bello (Criswell- 6 man rotation/Long Releif)

RP: Jansen, Martin, Hendriks, Slaten, Bernardino, Kelly, Weissert

 

 

Robert is a lazy, no caring type of player. He’s completely overpaid and he will never reach his potential. The Red Sox would be making a huge mistake to trade for him. No, no no.

[moonslav59]

ML or near ML ready prospects/players in the minors with a better OPS than Yorke. Not many are worse on D than he is, either:

 

1.046 K Campbell (A+/AA, so may not be quite ready)

1.015 Kavadas (DH/1B)

.984 M Lugo (DH/LF, but used to be infielder)

.851 Westbrook (.693 but .818 OPS in MLB vs LHPs)

.851 Dalbec (DH/1B/OF- not good at 2B)

.844 Grissom (probably better on D at 2B than Yorke)

.839 Mayer (SS in AA)

.827 Alvarez (2B in AAA and bats LH'd)

.823 Valdez (.783 career v LHPs & was red hot before demotion. Horrible D)

.816 Sogard (AAA and bats RH'd. He can play 2B better than Yorke.)

.808 Meidroth (AAA, where 2B is likely his best defensive position)

.792 Yorke

 

 

Plus...

Romy was 1.088 in AAA and is .746 vs LHPs in MLB in 2024.

DHam was .750 in AAA, but is at .745 in MLB w 23 SBs in 63 times on 1 or 2nd base.

 

Platoon:

.805 v RHP DHam

.818 v LHP Westbrook or .746 v LHP Romy

 

I'm not saying all the guys in red should be called up or added to the 40 before Yorke, but he is clearly not the obvious choice.

 

Edited July 18, 2024 by moonslav59

[moonslav59]

Robert is a lazy, no caring type of player. He’s completely overpaid and he will never reach his potential. The Red Sox would be making a huge mistake to trade for him. No, no no.

 

If an .804 OPS (.814 vs LHPs as compared to Abreu's is shockingly better) is below his "potential," I'll take it.

 

.845 OPS from '23-'24

.838 since 2021.

Career: .963 vs LHPs

+2.6 dWAR career

[moonslav59]

Anthony

Teel

Campbell

Garcia Bros

Early

Portes

Reyes

 

The rules are the rules and the facts are the facts!

 

No Mayer?

 

(Oh yes, you already traded him.)

[mvp 78]

No Mayer?

 

(Oh yes, you already traded him.)

 

The rules are the rules and the facts are the facts!

[moonslav59]

The rules are the rules and the facts are the facts!

 

What are the rules, and if they were made by our resident troll, count me out.

[Tedballgame]

If an .804 OPS (.814 vs LHPs as compared to Abreu's is shockingly better) is below his "potential," I'll take it.

 

.845 OPS from '23-'24

.838 since 2021.

Career: .963 vs LHPs

+2.6 dWAR career

 

Plus, he is injury prone. Did you see the game recently where he didn't even attempt to throw home after catching a fly ball with the winning run on third base in the bottom of the 9th? He is either lazy or stupid. Fans in Boston would eat him alive. I have a good friend who is a White Sox fan and he can't stand him.

[mvp 78]

What are the rules, and if they were made by our resident troll, count me out.

 

The rules are the rule. I thought I made that clear?

[notin]

The rules are the rule. I thought I made that clear?

 

And the disputes are indisputable!

[mvp 78]

And the disputes are indisputable!

 

Well I don't know about any of that!

[notin]

Well I don't know about any of that!

 

So you’re not disputing that dispute?

 

I rest my case…

[moonslav59]

Plus, he is injury prone. Did you see the game recently where he didn't even attempt to throw home after catching a fly ball with the winning run on third base in the bottom of the 9th? He is either lazy or stupid. Fans in Boston would eat him alive. I have a good friend who is a White Sox fan and he can't stand him.

 

I don't know enough to have an opinion, but this does sound concerning. Thanks for the insights.

[moonslav59]

The rules are the rule. I thought I made that clear?

 

What "rule" prevents Mayer from joining "the list."

[moonslav59]

So you’re not disputing that dispute?

 

 

That is disputable!

 

No cases are ever laid to rest on this site!

[mvp 78]

So you’re not disputing that dispute?

 

I rest my case…

 

The rules are the rules and the facts are the facts. If someone is disputing a rule or a fact, then I'll dispute it. Otherwise, no.

[mvp 78]

What "rule" prevents Mayer from joining "the list."

 

If you need more information, send a self-addressed stamped envelope to the Federal Citizen Information Center, Pueblo, CO 81009.

[moonslav59]

If you need more information, send a self-addressed stamped envelope to the Federal Citizen Information Center, Pueblo, CO 81009.

 

My guess is others on the list violate said rule.

[mvp 78]

Maxbialystock

A Red Sox fan named Hugh

Emp9

Slasher9

moonslav59

bosoxmal

Jack Flap

StephenCurry30

devildavid

illinoisredsox

notin

Oscars

S5Dewey

harmony

 

The rules are the rules and the facts are the facts!

[moonslav59]

Maxbialystock

A Red Sox fan named Hugh

Emp9

Slasher9

moonslav59

bosoxmal

Jack Flap

StephenCurry30

devildavid

illinoisredsox

notin

Oscars

S5Dewey

harmony

 

The rules are the rules and the facts are the facts!

 

I assume this is your no trade list.

 

LOL

[notin]

I assume this is your no trade list.

 

LOL

 

I assume I have 10/5 rights. (Those kick in if you’ve made 10,000 posts, with 5,000 of them being stupid.)

[moonslav59]

I assume I have 10/5 rights. (Those kick in if you’ve made 10,000 posts, with 5,000 of them being stupid.)

 

Then, why isn't MVP's name on the list?

[Dipre]

I assume I have 10/5 rights. (Those kick in if you’ve made 10,000 posts, with 5,000 of them being stupid.)

 

I have 10/10 rights then.

[Hugh2]

If I don't get traded to a contender I quit

[Bellhorn04]

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[notin]

Talksox is like the Oakland Raiders of baseball forums. We're the last resort, baby!

 

Who are the Oakland Raiders?