5/04 SOX @ Twins 2:10PM ET

[notin]

there have been a ton. i think the best thing Henry could do would be to try to figure out what led to the thinking on those horrible contracts. something led them to make those decisions. i highly doubt it was one person specifically, but rather a team of individuals and a very involved evaluation process. THAT process has failed them. and THAT'S what they need to look at.

 

 

But if you look at the worst 5 contracts in team history, most likely Crawford, Hanley, Sandoval, Sale, and Story. And we can add Rusney in there. These deals span 12 years and 4 GM/CBOs. There isn’t one singular individual logic that leads to these signings. Is the Sox success rate with these deals better or worse than everyone elsewhere? I bet they’re par for the course with regards to these type of deals. And the reason is they all involve older players…

[jad]

But if you look at the worst 5 contracts in team history, most likely Crawford, Hanley, Sandoval, Sale, and Story. And we can add Rusney in there. These deals span 12 years and 4 GM/CBOs. There isn’t one singular individual logic that leads to these signings. Is the Sox success rate with these deals better or worse than everyone elsewhere? I bet they’re par for the course with regards to these type of deals. And the reason is they all involve older players…

 

And yet when you have a generational player like Mookie ...

[moonslav59]

But if you look at the worst 5 contracts in team history, most likely Crawford, Hanley, Sandoval, Sale, and Story. And we can add Rusney in there. These deals span 12 years and 4 GM/CBOs. There isn’t one singular individual logic that leads to these signings. Is the Sox success rate with these deals better or worse than everyone elsewhere? I bet they’re par for the course with regards to these type of deals. And the reason is they all involve older players…

 

Good points.

 

The other thing to look at is the large percentage of all of our larges deals that failed or fell way short of hopes or expectations.

 

Most of our very best moves/additions were trades not large FA signings.

 

This could be one reason JH tries to avoid these types of mistakes.

 

[moonslav59]

And yet when you have a generational player like Mookie ...

 

That was the killer, for sure. That just should never happen.

[notin]

Good points.

 

The other thing to look at is the large percentage of all of our larges deals that failed or fell way short of hopes or expectations.

 

Most of our very best moves/additions were trades not large FA signings.

 

This could be one reason JH tries to avoid these types of mistakes.

 

 

 

I somehow omitted Price, who was probably the worst one. Or at a minimum was the most expensive. And might have been the one that broke Henry…

[Old Red]

What a hockey game last night. The Bruins were knocking on Death’s door, but won in OT to move into the 2nd round. The C’s have also gone into the 2nd round. Good stuff. As for the Red Sox win a few, lose a few, win a few lose a few, win a few, lose a few. MEH.

[Old Red]

Passed Balls and Wild Pitches.

 

Finding new ways to allow runs to score.

 

Yes you can go Wrong with Wong.🤭🙈

[notin]

Passed Balls and Wild Pitches.

 

Finding new ways to allow runs to score.

 

 

A side effect of eliminating the 4-seamer.

 

More sliders = more pitches catchers struggle with…

[Bellhorn04]

I somehow omitted Price, who was probably the worst one. Or at a minimum was the most expensive. And might have been the one that broke Henry…

 

Henry is a pussy if Price broke him, seriously. We won 3 division titles and a World Series with Price. He was less of a bust than guys like Crawford and Pablo.

[notin]

Henry is a pussy if Price broke him, seriously. We won 3 division titles and a World Series with Price. He was less of a bust than guys like Crawford and Pablo.

 

And while Price sputtered out the final years in Boston and LA, his deal, while the largest in Sox history for a pitcher (to this day?) has been surpassed so many times.

 

The thing is, I get avoiding free agents. They really are players in their 30s who want to be paid for what they did in their 20s for another team. Ok, avoid them. But sign your own guys!! And sign them early!