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I’d put Dalbec 25 and Joely 26; since Dalbec pitched in college so he in theory could be used on the mound. He can at least fill in at multiple positions (I didn’t say well). No way Joely could play the field. They probably hit about the same.

 

I concede the rankings but have a new #26---Kenley Jansen

 

This was a come from behind win, that was exciting until this POS took the mound. I guess it is only because the Sox are doomed this season to a non-playoff slot that Jansen is tolerable as a uni wearer

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Someone educate me- how long has the 9th inning specialty closer been a thing? Surely there was a time when it wasn't a designated full time job?
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At least Kenley had a past; Dalbec had what, a half a year? Bobby’s much more of a neverwas.

 

Well, I was being nice. Bobby D did have some 'best days.' And, c'mon, what's wrong with some comedy relief?

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Someone educate me- how long has the 9th inning specialty closer been a thing? Surely there was a time when it wasn't a designated full time job?

 

30 years, I’d say. Maybe 35 or 40.

 

When I was a kid, closers often went multiple innings. Guys like Goose Gossage and Rollie Fingers would routinely go 2 or even more to finish a game. Of course, starting pitcher often went, wait for it, 9 innings or sometimes more.

 

One of the most memorable games I ever listened to was a game from Anaheim, had to be 1973 or 1974. Nolan Ryan vs. Luis Tiant. Angels won it in 15, with Tiant going the distance for the Sox. Ryan was removed kicking and screaming after only 12 or 13.

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30 years, I’d say. Maybe 35 or 40.

 

When I was a kid, closers often went multiple innings. Guys like Goose Gossage and Rollie Fingers would routinely go 2 or even more to finish a game.

 

Dick Radatz, 'the monster' was pretty much a closer back in the early '60's.

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30 years, I’d say. Maybe 35 or 40.

 

When I was a kid, closers often went multiple innings. Guys like Goose Gossage and Rollie Fingers would routinely go 2 or even more to finish a game.

 

It seems odd in a way to me- if a pitcher who starts the game is pitching well... you keep going with him until he starts to show signs he is wore out or losing control. But a pitcher in the 7th or 8th can pitch wonderfully and will always get taken out in favor of another pitcher because of a designated title.

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Dick Radatz, the monster' was pretty much a closer back in the early '60's.

 

And dont forget Mike Fornieles before that.

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It seems odd in a way to me- if a pitcher who starts the game is pitching well... you keep going with him until he starts to show signs he is wore out or losing control. But a pitcher in the 7th or 8th can pitch wonderfully and will always get taken out in favor of another pitcher because of a designated title.

 

In 1968, Bob Gibson of the Cardinals went 22-9 with a 1.12 ERA. He was never removed from the mound during an inning that entire season. In fact, the only time he was ever removed from a game was when he was pinch hit for.

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In 1968, Bob Gibson of the Cardinals went 22-9 with a 1.12 ERA. He was never removed from the mound during an inning that entire season. In fact, the only time he was ever removed from a game was when he was pinch hit for.

 

Even just as amazing he had 9 losses. That was how bad the Cards' offense was that year.

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Dick Radatz, 'the monster' was pretty much a closer back in the early '60's.

 

A little before my time; was he a 1 inning guy or did he go multiple innings?

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A little before my time; was he a 1 inning guy or did he go multiple innings?

 

He usually went one, but did do multiple innings on occassion. Mickey Mantle was once asked what pitcher was the toughest for him to hit. He answered Dick Radatz.

"I knew he was going to throw me a fastball and I still couldn't hit it."

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