Red Sox: Off Season '23-'24

[notin]

Reportedly Bloom dangled him but was asking for a lot.

 

Bloom can do "reported interest" in various ways - he's versatile.

 

 

I can see teams being hesitant to take on the $7mill or so of JD regardless of the asking price in return. If Bloom really wanted to get under, Bogaerts would have been the smarter chip to deal. Even 5 months after the deadline, the best JD was able to get was a one year $10mill contract. If no one wanted him for more than $10 mill for a full season, it stands to reason that interest in him at $7mill for two months was not all that high.

 

Bogaerts on the other hand would have been easily movable…

[notin]

As for X-man not being traded at last year's deadline, I believe X-man had a no-trade clause in his contract, so I don't think Bloom should be blamed for that one.

 

Bogaerts did have a no trade clause…

[moonslav59]

I like Snell, but buyer beware on making him your top pitching acquisition.

 

Agreed. If he was the #2, hurray for Bloomie!

[notin]

Signing Montgomery, Lugo and maybe Duvall and a decent LH'd RP'er should make us noticeably better, but IMO, not by enough to make us near a top contender status.

 

Snell, Monty, Duvall and LRP, more so.

 

I'd love to see Yamamoto, Snell & Duvall.

 

 

 

I do not see the Sox outbidding the pack for Yamamoto, whose stock just got that much better with the recent news about Julio Urias.

 

I could see 30yo LHRP Shota Imanaga as a potential Sox target…

[notin]

I can see teams being hesitant to take on the $7mill or so of JD regardless of the asking price in return. If Bloom really wanted to get under, Bogaerts would have been the smarter chip to deal. Even 5 months after the deadline, the best JD was able to get was a one year $10mill contract. If no one wanted him for more than $10 mill for a full season, it stands to reason that interest in him at $7mill for two months was not all that high.

 

Bogaerts on the other hand would have been easily movable…

 

 

(Except for that NTC Splinter brought up and I looked into.)

[Dipre]

I do not see the Sox outbidding the pack for Yamamoto, whose stock just got that much better with the recent news about Julio Urias.

 

I could see 30yo LHRP Shota Imanaga as a potential Sox target…

 

The Red Sox have been known to go balls to the wall for a free agent they really want before. It all depends on how much they want him.

[jacksonianmarch]

The sox have outperformed expectations in 23. They were competitive and on the outside of the WC chase most of the year. They are fun to watch and have cobbled together a very effective offense, especially when their "one big star" is having a down year. Bloom has yet to prove he can bring in stable pitching. His TB ways of throwing s*** against the wall and watching it stick isn't working. He needs to invest in the rotation and the pen this offseason.

 

Sox are 7th in OPS in the majors. Sox are 21st in team ERA.

 

Most of the O is coming back. Maybe Mayer takes the next step next year and solidifies SS while moving Story to 2b.

[Dipre]

Mayer is not going to be ready next year.

[mvp 78]

Mayer is not going to be ready next year.

 

Not with this injury, no. Maybe a very late season call up next September.

[mvp 78]

The sox have outperformed expectations in 23. They were competitive and on the outside of the WC chase most of the year. They are fun to watch and have cobbled together a very effective offense, especially when their "one big star" is having a down year. Bloom has yet to prove he can bring in stable pitching. His TB ways of throwing s*** against the wall and watching it stick isn't working. He needs to invest in the rotation and the pen this offseason.

 

Sox are 7th in OPS in the majors. Sox are 21st in team ERA.

 

Most of the O is coming back. Maybe Mayer takes the next step next year and solidifies SS while moving Story to 2b.

 

I think he did a good job with the pen (top 10 fWAR). They are just running ragged now because of how horrid the rotation is. Defensively, the Sox are just an embarrassment. Bloom ignored the defensive component of the game and thought that an older and high injury risk rotation could get the team through the season. Instead, the staff fell like dominoes.

[mvp 78]

The Red Sox have been known to go balls to the wall for a free agent they really want before. It all depends on how much they want him.

 

Too many other suitors. Aces are in high demand. They won't get this one.

[mvp 78]

I do not see the Sox outbidding the pack for Yamamoto, whose stock just got that much better with the recent news about Julio Urias.

 

I could see 30yo LHRP Shota Imanaga as a potential Sox target…

 

I agree that he could be the fallback plan. I don't know enough about him. Seems like a guy who doesn't give up a lot of walks, which is the reason I had Montgomery as the Sox target this season.

[mvp 78]

I can see teams being hesitant to take on the $7mill or so of JD regardless of the asking price in return. If Bloom really wanted to get under, Bogaerts would have been the smarter chip to deal. Even 5 months after the deadline, the best JD was able to get was a one year $10mill contract. If no one wanted him for more than $10 mill for a full season, it stands to reason that interest in him at $7mill for two months was not all that high.

 

Bogaerts on the other hand would have been easily movable…

 

It was DUMB for the Sox to tell Xander that they were not going to deal him. Why tie your hands like that?

[mvp 78]

Bogaerts did have a no trade clause…

 

Find a playoff team. That would help his FA chances.

[mvp 78]

Signing Montgomery, Lugo and maybe Duvall and a decent LH'd RP'er should make us noticeably better, but IMO, not by enough to make us near a top contender status.

 

Snell, Monty, Duvall and LRP, more so.

 

I'd love to see Yamamoto, Snell & Duvall.

 

 

No chance do they get two top arms like Yamamoto and Snell.

[mvp 78]

I like Snell, but buyer beware on making him your top pitching acquisition.

 

I'd prefer a pitcher that you can count on for more than 120 innings if you're going to be writing a big check.

[Dipre]

I'd prefer a pitcher that you can count on for more than 120 innings if you're going to be writing a big check.

 

And who can throw strikes.

[mvp 78]

And who can throw strikes.

 

This year's BB/9 is what makes me question the "Bloom is linked to Snell" rumor that I saw. I think it's really just the lazy "Snell played for TB, Bloom used to be in TB, Bloom wants Snell" thing.

[Bellhorn04]

Bogaerts did have a no trade clause…

 

Which he might have waived, but reportedly the Sox told him they weren't going to trade him regardless.

[Bellhorn04]

You can see that Henry and Bloom have succeeded in crushing our expectations to the point we're not expecting much any more.

[Bellhorn04]

My prediction for this offseason is that the Boston Red Sox will be INTERESTED in Yamamoto, but will not sign him. With Ohtani injured and Urias being a sack of s***, the list of TOTR starters is getting shorter. Sox will get outbid for sure. I'm not sure they even end up with Blake Snell. My guess is the best they do is Jordan Montgomery and Seth Lugo, two competent guys that won't really wow anybody but are an improvement on the trainwreck of 2023.

 

I'm proud of the way the posters here respond to these things. I mean that.

[jacksonianmarch]

Too many other suitors. Aces are in high demand. They won't get this one.

 

Bloom has yet to do so. His biggest FA signee (Story) sat on the market for months before signing in ST to a pretty team friendly (at the time) deal for a cornerstone SS

[mvp 78]

You can see that Henry and Bloom have succeeded in crushing our expectations to the point we're not expecting much any more.

 

Yeah, it's the whole operation. Can't just single out Bloom because we don't have any inside knowledge.

[mvp 78]

Bloom has yet to do so. His biggest FA signee (Story) sat on the market for months before signing in ST to a pretty team friendly (at the time) deal for a cornerstone SS

 

Yes, until he can make the big FA acquisition (Story/Masa weren't that) or make the big trade, I won't believe that he can get it done. For now, he's just the guy who can build up a farm and put a .500ish ballclub on the field.

[jacksonianmarch]

That being said, the sox really need to add a TOTR starter. Sale isn't that anymore. Bello is turning into more of a sinkerballer than a lead dog. Still effective, but more contact than I would expect from someone with his stuff. Paxton will leave via FA. Mata might step in, but he will be handled with kid gloves as he cannot stay healthy. Whitlock has been a mess and should be returned to the pen. Anyone think Crawford is a good starter? You have one guy you can rely on to be there (Bello), one guy who will be there when he is healthy which is rare (Sale) and 3 true openings. You need a stopper

[Bellhorn04]

Oh yeah, we definitely have a need.

[mvp 78]

That being said, the sox really need to add a TOTR starter. Sale isn't that anymore. Bello is turning into more of a sinkerballer than a lead dog. Still effective, but more contact than I would expect from someone with his stuff. Paxton will leave via FA. Mata might step in, but he will be handled with kid gloves as he cannot stay healthy. Whitlock has been a mess and should be returned to the pen. Anyone think Crawford is a good starter? You have one guy you can rely on to be there (Bello), one guy who will be there when he is healthy which is rare (Sale) and 3 true openings. You need a stopper

 

Mata isn't a starter. He has no options left. I'm not sure they can even have him on the roster next season so I think he's dealt this winter.

 

FA

Trade

Bello

Sale

Houck/Crawford

[notin]

Which he might have waived, but reportedly the Sox told him they weren't going to trade him regardless.

 

He might have, but I have no idea of he was willing to or not. And he refuses to answer my texts. (Although I should probably acknowledge there is a slight chance the number I randomly chose might not be him.)

[Hugh2]

That being said, the sox really need to add a TOTR starter. Sale isn't that anymore. Bello is turning into more of a sinkerballer than a lead dog. Still effective, but more contact than I would expect from someone with his stuff. Paxton will leave via FA. Mata might step in, but he will be handled with kid gloves as he cannot stay healthy. Whitlock has been a mess and should be returned to the pen. Anyone think Crawford is a good starter? You have one guy you can rely on to be there (Bello), one guy who will be there when he is healthy which is rare (Sale) and 3 true openings. You need a stopper

 

Sox could QO Paxton and keep him for a year. I think you do that thinking he accepts. It's overpaying but who cares???? It's for a year.

[Dipre]

Sox could QO Paxton and keep him for a year. I think you do that thinking he accepts. It's overpaying but who cares???? It's for a year.

 

Paxton's not a model of health and consistency though.