2023 Yankees off-season thread

[notin]

Montas down for the year. What a s***** trade

 

Yankees could sure use Waldichuk right now…

[jacksonianmarch]

Montas was going to be a luxury this year. We needed Montas last year and he crapped out. This is why you don’t trade for pitchers who just came off the IL for a shoulder issue

[Bellhorn04]

Montas was going to be a luxury this year. We needed Montas last year and he crapped out. This is why you don’t trade for pitchers who just came off the IL for a shoulder issue

 

A luxury, huh? Now you're tempting the baseball gods...

[Bellhorn04]

From Joel Sherman:

 

Montas is scheduled for shoulder surgery next Tuesday and manager Aaron Boone said Wednesday that the righty will miss most, if not all of this season. Nestor Cortes (hamstring strain) had to abandon playing for Team USA in the World Baseball Classic, though Boone said he expects Cortes to be ready for the regular season. Gerrit Cole is a horse (MLB leader in starts since 2017), but Luis Severino has made just 22 regular-season starts the past four years, and until 2021-22, newcomer Caros Rodon had been a medical mess.

 

Domingo German is an asset as a sixth starter, but every time he gets a chance, the Yankees want to do better. Clarke Schmidt echoes Chad Green: The Yankees are going to insist he is a starter until they relent and make him a full-time reliever. Still, the problem is what comes next.

 

Since the 2019 season ended, the Yankees have lost Garrett Whitlock in the Rule 5 draft; have traded Roansy Contreras and Glenn Otto; and have dealt starters Jordan Montgomery, Hayden Wesneski, T.J. Sikkema, Beck Way, Luis Medina, J.P. Sears and Ken Waldichuk at the 2022 deadline for Harrison Bader, Scott Effross, Andrew Benintendi, Lou Trivino and Montas.

 

Contreras (Pittsburgh) and Montgomery (St. Louis) are rotation locks, and the others either will begin the year in rotations or will have a chance as the season progresses. Meanwhile, only Bader and Trivino are still standing for the 2023 Yankees. Effross (Tommy John surgery) and Montas are injured, while Benintendi left in free agency for the White Sox.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

From Joel Sherman:

 

Montas is scheduled for shoulder surgery next Tuesday and manager Aaron Boone said Wednesday that the righty will miss most, if not all of this season. Nestor Cortes (hamstring strain) had to abandon playing for Team USA in the World Baseball Classic, though Boone said he expects Cortes to be ready for the regular season. Gerrit Cole is a horse (MLB leader in starts since 2017), but Luis Severino has made just 22 regular-season starts the past four years, and until 2021-22, newcomer Caros Rodon had been a medical mess.

 

Domingo German is an asset as a sixth starter, but every time he gets a chance, the Yankees want to do better. Clarke Schmidt echoes Chad Green: The Yankees are going to insist he is a starter until they relent and make him a full-time reliever. Still, the problem is what comes next.

 

Since the 2019 season ended, the Yankees have lost Garrett Whitlock in the Rule 5 draft; have traded Roansy Contreras and Glenn Otto; and have dealt starters Jordan Montgomery, Hayden Wesneski, T.J. Sikkema, Beck Way, Luis Medina, J.P. Sears and Ken Waldichuk at the 2022 deadline for Harrison Bader, Scott Effross, Andrew Benintendi, Lou Trivino and Montas.

 

Contreras (Pittsburgh) and Montgomery (St. Louis) are rotation locks, and the others either will begin the year in rotations or will have a chance as the season progresses. Meanwhile, only Bader and Trivino are still standing for the 2023 Yankees. Effross (Tommy John surgery) and Montas are injured, while Benintendi left in free agency for the White Sox.

 

They should trade for Bryan Reynolds today!

[Bellhorn04]

That was one hell of a trade deadline for Cash.

 

Still got another extension from Hal, though.

[moonslav59]

From Joel Sherman:

 

Montas is scheduled for shoulder surgery next Tuesday and manager Aaron Boone said Wednesday that the righty will miss most, if not all of this season. Nestor Cortes (hamstring strain) had to abandon playing for Team USA in the World Baseball Classic, though Boone said he expects Cortes to be ready for the regular season. Gerrit Cole is a horse (MLB leader in starts since 2017), but Luis Severino has made just 22 regular-season starts the past four years, and until 2021-22, newcomer Caros Rodon had been a medical mess.

 

Domingo German is an asset as a sixth starter, but every time he gets a chance, the Yankees want to do better. Clarke Schmidt echoes Chad Green: The Yankees are going to insist he is a starter until they relent and make him a full-time reliever. Still, the problem is what comes next.

 

Since the 2019 season ended, the Yankees have lost Garrett Whitlock in the Rule 5 draft; have traded Roansy Contreras and Glenn Otto; and have dealt starters Jordan Montgomery, Hayden Wesneski, T.J. Sikkema, Beck Way, Luis Medina, J.P. Sears and Ken Waldichuk at the 2022 deadline for Harrison Bader, Scott Effross, Andrew Benintendi, Lou Trivino and Montas.

 

Contreras (Pittsburgh) and Montgomery (St. Louis) are rotation locks, and the others either will begin the year in rotations or will have a chance as the season progresses. Meanwhile, only Bader and Trivino are still standing for the 2023 Yankees. Effross (Tommy John surgery) and Montas are injured, while Benintendi left in free agency for the White Sox.

 

But, but, but... they kept Volpe, Dominguez and Peraza, and that's all that counts.

[jacksonianmarch]

We got two good years out of Taillon, so the Contreras trade isn’t awful

Bader is a damn good CFer and one year of him be one year for Montgomery for this team leans towards Bader for what we need

The Beni trade was a good one at the time as we gave up no near prospects. Nobody could predict he’d be hurt

The Wesneski for Effross deal made little sense. I liked Effross, don’t get me wrong, but Wesneski was MLB ready and had the stuff to be better than Effross maybe even at the deadline itself

Montas deal is a nuclear disaster

 

Here’s the problem the yanks run into. They had a ton of good prospects who were coming up on Rule V eligibility AND a WS contending active roster. I don’t dislike dealing the guys we did, I do dislike dealing for Effross and Montas who were either one hit wonders or actively injured

[jacksonianmarch]

But the narrative above should tell the Yankees one thing.

 

Stop going into seasons with holes and then overpaying to fill them at the deadline!

[moonslav59]

But the narrative above should tell the Yankees one thing.

 

Stop going into seasons with holes and then overpaying to fill them at the deadline!

 

Or, do better with deadline trades- like Bloom does.

[bkzwhitestrican]

Montas will be healthy just in time for free agency. Definitely one of the worst deadline moves in recent memory, though at the time I was pretty hopeful about the move.

[moonslav59]

Montas will be healthy just in time for free agency. Definitely one of the worst deadline moves in recent memory, though at the time I was pretty hopeful about the move.

 

It's hard to predict injuries. He is a pretty good pitcher.

[Bellhorn04]

It's hard to predict injuries. He is a pretty good pitcher.

 

He did miss some time with a shoulder issue last year though, pitching only 9 innings in July. Kind of a red flag.

 

His career road ERA of 4.51 isn't very impressive either...

 

I have to go with "Thanks, Cash!"

[notin]

Or, do better with deadline trades- like Bloom does.

 

Right.

 

You didn’t see Bloom making any deadline deals for injured pitchers last year…

[moonslav59]

Right.

 

You didn’t see Bloom making any deadline deals for injured pitchers last year…

 

If Bloom has done one thing well, it's deadline trades:

 

2020:

Pivetta & Seabold for Workman & Hembree

(Moreland for Potts & Rosario and Pillar for Jacob Wallace, but what can be expected?)

 

2021:

Schwarber for Aldo Ramirez

Robles for Adam Scherff

A Davis for Michael Chavis

(Iggy and Shaw pick-ups were not trades.)

 

2022:

Reese McGuire for Diekman

E Valdez & W Abreu for Vaz

Maz Ferguson, Corey Rosier & Hosmer for Jay Groome

[Jasonbay44]

If Bloom has done one thing well, it's deadline trades:

 

2020:

Pivetta & Seabold for Workman & Hembree

(Moreland for Potts & Rosario and Pillar for Jacob Wallace, but what can be expected?)

 

2021:

Schwarber for Aldo Ramirez

Robles for Adam Scherff

A Davis for Michael Chavis

(Iggy and Shaw pick-ups were not trades.)

 

2022:

Reese McGuire for Diekman

E Valdez & W Abreu for Vaz

Maz Ferguson, Corey Rosier & Hosmer for Jay Groome

 

Is Austin Davis for Michael Chavis really a good trade?

[moonslav59]

Is Austin Davis for Michael Chavis really a good trade?

 

Yes, He did okay for us in 2021, and Chavis had and would have no place on this team.

 

Chavis has hit .673 for PIT.

 

Anyway, I was talking about overall. If that is the worst trade, it's good sign.

 

I'd have picked the Moreland trade.