2023 Free Agents

[Larry Cook]

Rich Hill and Nate off the list. That leaves Kluber.

 

Or wacha

[moonslav59]

Hey, we get 2 comp picks!

 

Hip, HIP, HURRAY!!!

[Jasonbay44]

Hey, we get 2 comp picks!

 

Hip, HIP, HURRAY!!!

 

If the Red Sox had got under the luxury tax at the deadline, they would have received picks 70 & 71 in the 2023 Draft for Bogaerts & Eovaldi. Instead they will receive picks 133 & 134. They also miss out on ~$1 million in additional bonus pool money going off 2022 slot values.

 

[moonslav59]

If the Red Sox had got under the luxury tax at the deadline, they would have received picks 70 & 71 in the 2023 Draft for Bogaerts & Eovaldi. Instead they will receive picks 133 & 134. They also miss out on ~$1 million in additional bonus pool money going off 2022 slot values.

 

 

It’s one of the dumbest things they’ve done in years. Plus, the could have gone over this winter,although that seems unlikely.

[Jasonbay44]

It’s one of the dumbest things they’ve done in years. Plus, the could have gone over this winter,although that seems unlikely.

 

It just makes no sense. It doesn't sound like they had any plans of bringing back Eovaldi or JD and clearly weren't making competitive offers to Xander, so why hold them for a 1/2 season with no shot of making playoffs? Just dumb.

[moonslav59]

It just makes no sense. It doesn't sound like they had any plans of bringing back Eovaldi or JD and clearly weren't making competitive offers to Xander, so why hold them for a 1/2 season with no shot of making playoffs? Just dumb.

 

I had a theory that was shot down.

 

Crybaby fans.

[Old Red]

It’s one of the dumbest things they’ve done in years. Plus, the could have gone over this winter,although that seems unlikely.

 

You act so surprised, and didn’t see it coming that Bloom could do such a thing. Me I’m not surprised Bloom did this at all. Just another example of Bloom being in over his head.

[Old Red]

I had a theory that was shot down.

 

Crybaby fans.

 

If Bloom, and JH listened to the Crybaby fans Mookie, Bogey, and Raffy would have been all locked up by the Sox. My theory is just Bloom being Bloom, and once again not a good thing.

[notin]

It just makes no sense. It doesn't sound like they had any plans of bringing back Eovaldi or JD and clearly weren't making competitive offers to Xander, so why hold them for a 1/2 season with no shot of making playoffs? Just dumb.

 

At the time they weren’t that far out of the third wild card. But they didn’t know Eovaldi would only make two more starts all year and that Devers would be in an injury-induced funk at the plate for the bulk of August…

[notin]

If Bloom, and JH listened to the Crybaby fans Mookie, Bogey, and Raffy would have been all locked up by the Sox. My theory is just Bloom being Bloom, and once again not a good thing.

 

Not locking up Mookie was on Dombrowski, who had 4 years to get a deal done…

[moonslav59]

If Bloom, and JH listened to the Crybaby fans Mookie, Bogey, and Raffy would have been all locked up by the Sox. My theory is just Bloom being Bloom, and once again not a good thing.

 

Yes, Mookie, Bogey, Devers and nobody else. Don't forget Price at full price.

 

The budget magically is approved to get larger. The farm magically starts producing 3 Houcks a year. Glad you finally gave your plan. A real winner.

[moonslav59]

Not locking up Mookie was on Dombrowski, who had 4 years to get a deal done…

 

Could have offered Bogey $25M x 8 with no opt out, either, and most would be in prime.

[moonslav59]

At the time they weren’t that far out of the third wild card. But they didn’t know Eovaldi would only make two more starts all year and that Devers would be in an injury-induced funk at the plate for the bulk of August…

 

We had no chance for a ring.

[notin]

We had no chance for a ring.

 

If we got in we did. Maybe not a good chance, but absolutely had one. The Phillies were the last team eliminated, but they only won 9 more games than the Sox and were the last team into the NL playoffs…

[notin]

Could have offered Bogey $25M x 8 with no opt out, either, and most would be in prime.

 

He certainly could have, and had that left no room in the budget for Sale, it would have accomplished two good things.

 

But considering a Bogaerts had one season left until free agency , it’s really shocking he signed anything at all..

[moonslav59]

If we got in we did. Maybe not a good chance, but absolutely had one. The Phillies were the last team eliminated, but they only won 9 more games than the Sox and were the last team into the NL playoffs…

 

I'm not a crapshoot playoff guy.

 

Hey, we may have made the playoffs had we traded JD, and everything else went right, correct?

[Bellhorn04]

I'm not a crapshoot playoff guy.

 

Hey, we may have made the playoffs had we traded JD, and everything else went right, correct?

 

The Crapshoot Factor has been MASSIVE the last 2 postseasons.

 

The 2022 Phillies winning the pennant with a Pythagorean 87 wins instead of the Dodgers with a Pythagorean 116 wins was one of the all-time crapshoot results.

 

You're a Crapshoot Denier.

[mvp 78]

A five year plan might be acceptable for a team that's tanking like the Cubs or the Astros did. Or a small market team like Miami. But not for a team with such a high payroll every year.

 

The five year plan should have started in 2020.

[mvp 78]

The 3 year plan becomes a 5 year plan, and if that team stinks it will be a 10 year plan.

 

This is Blooms year, and I have to say at the very least I’m interested to see how this blows up in his face yet I’m leaving the door open to be surprised in 2023. This year will make it break Bloom.

 

Ownership keeps on saying their intent is trying to compete for the playoffs. It just hangs Bloom out to dry if the intent is really something else. Maybe internally, he has their full support and he is strong enough to deal with the target on his back?

[Old Red]

The five year plan should have started in 2020.

 

A big market team like the Boston Red Sox should NEVER have to have anything close to a five year plan, and should be a winning competitive team every year. This is total failure from JH on down.

[Old Red]

Ownership keeps on saying their intent is trying to compete for the playoffs. It just hangs Bloom out to dry if the intent is really something else. Maybe internally, he has their full support and he is strong enough to deal with the target on his back?

 

Bloom knew, or should have known what he was getting into in coming to Boston, and if he didn’t he deserves to be hung out to dry, but he’s not alone.

[mvp 78]

Remaining Unsigned Free Agents at positions we need or could upgrade:

 

Starting Pitchers

Johnny Cueto (37)

Corey Kluber (37)

Michael Wacha (31)

 

Shortstops

Elvis Andrus (34)

Jose Iglesias (33)

 

Second Basemen

Yu Chang (27)

Cesar Hernandez (33)

Jean Segura (33)

 

Center Fielders

There is nobody listed that makes sense to move Kiké for.

As a backup:

Pollock

Pillar

 

Catchers

Steamer projects a higher fWAR than any guy listed here. YUCK!

 

 

I edited out the undesirables.

[mvp 78]

Bloom knew, or should have known what he was getting into in coming to Boston, and if he didn’t he deserves to be hung out to dry, but he’s not alone.

 

No.

[mvp 78]

A big market team like the Boston Red Sox should NEVER have to have anything close to a five year plan, and should be a winning competitive team every year. This is total failure from JH on down.

 

I'm not saying there should or shouldn't be a five year plan, BUT if there was a plan I hope it started back then.

[mvp 78]

It just makes no sense. It doesn't sound like they had any plans of bringing back Eovaldi or JD and clearly weren't making competitive offers to Xander, so why hold them for a 1/2 season with no shot of making playoffs? Just dumb.

 

A lot of posters on here still thought they had a chance for some reason. If they had traded JD in the offseason or didn't pick up JBJ, it never would have been up for discussion.

[mvp 78]

At the time they weren’t that far out of the third wild card. But they didn’t know Eovaldi would only make two more starts all year and that Devers would be in an injury-induced funk at the plate for the bulk of August…

 

Even if Eovaldi makes all his remaining starts and Devers hits like he did pre-ASB, the team misses the postseason.

[Bellhorn04]

Even if Eovaldi makes all his remaining starts and Devers hits like he did pre-ASB, the team misses the postseason.

 

Don't forget the if Sale!

[mvp 78]

Don't forget the if Sale!

 

I guess? I don't even know how much we were expecting out of him.

[Bellhorn04]

I guess? I don't even know how much we were expecting out of him.

 

Well, it's all guessy games here.

[mvp 78]

Well, it's all guessy games here.

 

It always is!