2023 Free Agents

[notin]

1. Bogey decision / Plan B

2. Pitching

3. Pitching

4. OF who could hit for power

5. Pitching

6. Finally, more pitching

 

I have a very strong feeling I know who number 4 is going to be. But you’re not going to like it.

 

(There’sa reason I’ve mentioned him on previous posts and they have n been met with much distaste. But I think a lot of people might need to start considering welcoming Joey Gallo to Boston. Possibly with an Adam Duvall platoon partner.)

Edited October 29, 2022 by notin

[moonslav59]

I have a very strong feeling I know who number 4 is going to be. But you’re not going to like it.

 

(There’sa reason I’ve mentioned him on previous posts and they have n been met with much distaste. But I think a lot of people might need to start considering welcoming Joey Gallo to Boston. Possibly with an Adam Duvall platoon partner.)

 

I could see Gallo coming to BOS, and would b e okay with it, if every other high need area was filled with much better upgrades, because we went cheaper in RF.

[notin]

I could see Gallo coming to BOS, and would b e okay with it, if every other high need area was filled with much better upgrades, because we went cheaper in RF.

 

I know Bloom values DRS with catchers. Near-acquisition Jacob Stallings and mid year acquisition Reese McGuire excelled at that metric.

 

As does Gallo, where it makes him the second best right fielder in MLB, behind Betts…

[moonslav59]

I know Bloom values DRS with catchers. Near-acquisition Jacob Stallings and mid year acquisition Reese McGuire excelled at that metric.

 

As does Gallo, where it makes him the second best right fielder in MLB, behind Betts…

 

He'd need to maintain an OBP above .320 for me to like a Gallo signing.

 

.323 '21-'22

.319 '20-'22

.351 '19-'22

 

I'm not sure he can do that.

[notin]

He'd need to maintain an OBP above .320 for me to like a Gallo signing.

 

.323 '21-'22

.319 '20-'22

.351 '19-'22

 

I'm not sure he can do that.

 

Even with his elite walk rate, Gallo is all but a guarantee to struggle with OBP…

[moonslav59]

Even with his elite walk rate, Gallo is all but a guarantee to struggle with OBP…

 

I'm just not sure we can handle another sub .310 OBP guys, although that would still be a huge upgrade over JBJ and better than the team's overall RF OBP (.295) and OF OBP of .301.

[moonslav59]

MLBTR categorizes the 2023 SP FA class as such:

 

Ace

deGrom 35 next season

Rodon 30

Verlander 40

 

"Own Bucket"

Kershaw 35

 

"NPB Star"

Kodai Senga 30

 

Mid-Rotation

Bassitt 34

Eovaldi 33

 

"Third Tier Mid-Rotation"

T Anderson 33

Clevinger 32

Heaney 32

Manaea 31

M Perez 32

Quintana 34

Smyly 34

Stripling 33

Syndergaard 30

Taillon 31

Wacha 31

 

"Reliever/Starter Hybrids"

Boyd 32

Eflin 29

Lorenzen 31

Strahm 31

 

"Short Term Former Starters"

Cueto 37

Greinke 39

Kluber 37

 

"Depth" Archer 34, Davies 30, KGibson 35, R Hill 43, Miley 36, T Williams 31

 

 

 

 

[cp176]

MLBTR categorizes the 2023 SP FA class as such:

 

Ace

deGrom 35 next season

Rodon 30

Verlander 40

 

"Own Bucket"

Kershaw 35

 

"NPB Star"

Kodai Senga 30

 

Mid-Rotation

Bassitt 34

Eovaldi 33

 

"Third Tier Mid-Rotation"

T Anderson 33

Clevinger 32

Heaney 32

Manaea 31

M Perez 32

Quintana 34

Smyly 34

Stripling 33

Syndergaard 30

Taillon 31

Wacha 31

 

"Reliever/Starter Hybrids"

Boyd 32

Eflin 29

Lorenzen 31

Strahm 31

 

"Short Term Former Starters"

Cueto 37

Greinke 39

Kluber 37

 

"Depth" Archer 34, Davies 30, KGibson 35, R Hill 43, Miley 36, T Williams 31

 

 

 

 

 

Hey while you and notin converse in a foreign language can you answer this question simply - Is Gallo still any good?

[harmony]

Here's a free agent comp: Jacoby Ellsbury and Brandon Nimmo, lefthand-hitting center fielders who entered free agency after their age 29 seasons.

 

When the Yankees signed Ellsbury to a seven-year, $153 million contract in December 2013 Ellsbury had posted 22.2 fWAR/21.4 bWAR in 715 games, including 4.6 fWAR/5.8 bWAR in 134 games the previous season.

 

Nimmo has posted 17.9 fWAR/17.6 bWAR in 608 games, including 5.4 fWAR/5.0 bWAR in 151 games this year.

 

Products of the High Plains, Ellsbury was the 23rd pick of the 2005 draft out of college while Nimmo was the 13th pick of the 2011 draft out of high school.

 

Will Nimmo approach the years and/or dollars of the Ellsbury contract?

[Old Red]

Hey while you and notin converse in a foreign language can you answer this question simply - Is Gallo still any good?

 

Notin likes RF who can’t hit 200 like JBJ, and Gallo who hasn’t hit 200 for 3 years in a row now. Schwarber could get away with it, but not Gallo. He sucks.

[harmony]

Hey while you and notin converse in a foreign language can you answer this question simply - Is Gallo still any good?

Not to answer for the beloved moonslav and notin, but the answer is: YES.

[notin]

Notin likes RF who can’t hit 200 like JBJ, and Gallo who hasn’t hit 200 for 3 years in a row now. Schwarber could get away with it, but not Gallo. He sucks.

 

 

He’s a very good defensive RF, which teams could use in Boston, as Fenway is very spacious there. Baseball isn’t all about batting averages.

 

Also, since you clearly didn’t notice - THIS IS A PREDICTION . Not a wish list.

 

See, a prediction is what I think will[ happen. A wish list is what I want to happen.

 

Let me know if you need smaller words…

[moonslav59]

Hey while you and notin converse in a foreign language can you answer this question simply - Is Gallo still any good?

 

I'd say no. He may have a decent season left in him, and his defense is good enough, but I'm hoping for Nimmo or a trade for Berti.

[Old Red]

He’s a very good defensive RF, which teams could use in Boston, as Fenway is very spacious there. Baseball isn’t all about batting averages.

 

Also, since you clearly didn’t notice - THIS IS A PREDICTION . Not a wish list.

 

See, a prediction is what I think will[ happen. A wish list is what I want to happen.

 

Let me know if you need smaller words…

 

Fenway Park has a spacious RF? Wow! You think even the very very casual fan doesn’t know that? Nobody has said that Baseball is all about BA, but it helps to be able to hit the ball at least once in a while, and that leaves out Gallo. He sucks. Prediction? Jimmy The Greek you are not.

[moonslav59]

Fenway Park has a spacious RF? Wow! You think even the very very casual fan doesn’t know that? Nobody has said that Baseball is all about BA, but it helps to be able to hit the ball at least once in a while, and that leaves out Gallo. He sucks. Prediction? Jimmy The Greek you are not.

 

I hope notin is not right on this, but who predicted JBJ?

 

It seems RF defense has caused some unpredictable decisions, in the past.

[harmony]

I'd say no. He may have a decent season left in him, and his defense is good enough, but I'm hoping for Nimmo or a trade for Berti.

FWIW in 2021 Joey Gallo posted 4.2 fWAR in 153 games while Brandon Nimmo, who is eight months older than Gallo, posted 3.3 fWAR in 92 games.

 

Nimmo will be rewarded for his fine 2022 season and Gallo punished for his disappointing 2022 season but the contract difference might not be proportionate to their respective values.

[notin]

Fenway Park has a spacious RF? Wow! You think even the very very casual fan doesn’t know that? Nobody has said that Baseball is all about BA, but it helps to be able to hit the ball at least once in a while, and that leaves out Gallo. He sucks. Prediction? Jimmy The Greek you are not.

 

Jimmy the Greek? What’s your point? That people who aren’t that incompetent boob of an oddsmaker shouldn’t make predictions?

 

Gallo’s BA was down last year, but he has a .351 OBP as recently as 2021. OBP is much more telling than batting average…

[moonslav59]

FWIW in 2021 Joey Gallo posted 4.2 fWAR in 153 games while Brandon Nimmo, who is eight months older than Gallo, posted 3.3 fWAR in 92 games.

 

Nimmo will be rewarded for his fine 2022 season and Gallo punished for his disappointing 2022 season but the contract difference might not be proportionate to their respective values.

 

I like Nimmo way better.

 

I hope Gallo signs with the Mariners.

[Old Red]

Jimmy the Greek? What’s your point? That people who aren’t that incompetent boob of an oddsmaker shouldn’t make predictions?

 

Gallo’s BA was down last year, but he has a .351 OBP as recently as 2021. OBP is much more telling than batting average…

Gallo sucks, and I think it’s a SAFE BET he doesn’t end up in a Red Sox uniform, and one of your predictions will be wrong once again.

[Old Red]

I like Nimmo way better.

 

I hope Gallo signs with the Mariners.

 

He wore out his welcome with the Yankees, and Dodgers.

[moonslav59]

Jimmy the Greek? What’s your point? That people who aren’t that incompetent boob of an oddsmaker shouldn’t make predictions?

 

Gallo’s BA was down last year, but he has a .351 OBP as recently as 2021. OBP is much more telling than batting average…

 

The odds of getting a prediction like this right are very low. It's not like we don't know this, but we enjoy making predictions and suggestions, which are not teh same thing.

 

Some avoid making predictions and suggestions, but some seem to enjoy complaining about the ones others make.

[Old Red]

The odds of getting a prediction like this right are very low. It's not like we don't know this, but we enjoy making predictions and suggestions, which are not teh same thing.

 

Some avoid making predictions and suggestions, but some seem to enjoy complaining about the ones others make.

 

Not complaining, but critiquing the accuracy of such predictions. Not a very high percentage I would say.

[notin]

I like Nimmo way better.

 

I hope Gallo signs with the Mariners.

 

I do too, but Nimmo likely gets a QO, which costs the Sox two draft picks. Gallo isn’t even eligible for one…

[moonslav59]

Not complaining, but critiquing the accuracy of such predictions. Not a very high percentage I would say.

 

None are.

 

How high was a JBJ trade rated?

[notin]

Gallo sucks, and I think it’s a SAFE BET he doesn’t end up in a Red Sox uniform, and one of your predictions will be wrong once again.

 

1. One would think as an admitted Bloom Critic, you’d welcome predictions that you found to be detrimental.

 

2. So now you’re telling people they can’t make predictions? WTF else is there to do between now and April?

 

Tell you what, Commandant Red, why don’t you post your approved rules for topics this off-season?

[Old Red]

1. One would think as an admitted Bloom Critic, you’d welcome predictions that you found to be detrimental.

 

2. So now you’re telling people they can’t make predictions? WTF else is there to do between now and April?

 

Tell you what, Commandant Red, why don’t you post your approved rules for topics this off-season?

 

Where does it say I said no one can make predictions? You can’t find it, because I didn’t say it. Just another example of a long long list of over analyzing, and getting some wrong. AGAIN.

[Old Red]

None are.

 

How high was a JBJ trade rated?

For some like Notin he loved it, so for him probably a 10.

[moonslav59]

For some like Notin he loved it, so for him probably a 10.

 

You just can't stop building strawmen, can you?

[moonslav59]

Where does it say I said no one can make predictions? You can’t find it, because I didn’t say it. Just another example of a long long list of over analyzing, and getting some wrong. AGAIN.

 

You said he "shouldn't."

 

[Old Red]

You just can't stop building strawmen, can you?

 

Like I’ve said before. The Candy Man can, but you can’t. The curtain has been pulled back to many times. Say good night Dick.