2022 MLB Draft

[mvp 78]

Yes but I was talking about position players. But if we want to broadly say best player in general on any HIGHSCHOOL team it’s up the middle and pitchers. Often both.

 

Unless you're at a baseball powerhouse where you're already slotted into a certain role and they don't want you to be a two way player.

 

I would assume that most of the best SS prospects at least pitched a little in HS.

[mvp 78]

@brendan_camp

Thaddeus Ward named Carolina League Pitcher of the Week.

 

Luis Perales named Florida Complex League Pitcher of the Week.

 

Stiwar Adames named Dominican Summer League Pitcher of the Week.

[sk7326]

They went:

 

P

SS

P

P

P

P

C

P

 

Not sure if they will all sign (Brand). Some of the guys are clearly under slot guys (Hoppe, Bolden).

 

Rounds 11-20 happen today.

 

Yeah - I'm curious. Now, they gave a big deal to Anthony ... so that seems to lead to them not forfeiting any pool money. But we'll see.

[Hugh2]

Brooks Brannon could be insurance incase they can't sign one of the top 3 picks, so if 10 of their top 11 picks sign and Brannon does not it's still a good draft. If all 11 sign it's a really good draft.

 

I don't expect much today, but gems are found in the these later rounds.

[Hugh2]

Unless you're at a baseball powerhouse where you're already slotted into a certain role and they don't want you to be a two way player.

 

I would assume that most of the best SS prospects at least pitched a little in HS.

 

I would too.

[mvp 78]

Sox have $8.48M to spend. If they give all of the bonus to Roman (about 400K), they have to save about 1.3M elsewhere. Each pick from 11-20 is slotted at $150k.

 

Romero will probably sign for slightly under slot. Maybe 2.6? 400K savings.

 

Brooks Brannon isn't going to sign. That's 150K savings.

 

Rogers/Meidroth would also be way under slot. 500K savings.

 

Pass on signing Caleb Bolden at 200K and you can probably sign the rest of your class. Brooks Brannon is probably not signing though.

[mvp 78]

Brooks Brannon could be insurance incase they can't sign one of the top 3 picks, so if 10 of their top 11 picks sign and Brannon does not it's still a good draft. If all 11 sign it's a really good draft.

 

I don't expect much today, but gems are found in the these later rounds.

 

I agree. I don't think he's going to sign though.

[mvp 78]

Through 15 rounds:

 

9 College P

4 HS SS

1 HS OF

1 HS C

1 College SS

[Hugh2]

I agree. I don't think he's going to sign though.

 

Allegedly he's signed, so I guess that shows what we know!!!

 

I do want to be careful here, I saw this posted on soxprospects and have no ideal how reliable the article is.

 

I know players get drafted and talk like they're ready to sign all the time and then when the two sides are too far apart on bonus demands everything falls apart. A prime example of this was JUD FABIAN, however, according to this source it's a done deal.

 

If we sign all top 10, I'm loving this draft.

[Hugh2]

https://www.highschoolot.com/randleman-c-brooks-brannon-signs-with-boston-red-sox-after-draft-turns-pro/20381707/

[mvp 78]

Allegedly he's signed, so I guess that shows what we know!!!

 

I do want to be careful here, I saw this posted on soxprospects and have no ideal how reliable the article is.

 

I know players get drafted and talk like they're ready to sign all the time and then when the two sides are too far apart on bonus demands everything falls apart. A prime example of this was JUD FABIAN, however, according to this source it's a done deal.

 

If we sign all top 10, I'm loving this draft.

 

That's surprising. Also, they lose slot value for any top 10 pick they don't sign. My guess is they are anticipating on signing a ton of those guys under slot. We'll have to see what Brannon gets.

[Hugh2]

That's surprising. Also, they lose slot value for any top 10 pick they don't sign. My guess is they are anticipating on signing a ton of those guys under slot. We'll have to see what Brannon gets.

 

And they lose the 5% overage too, BUT if they were anticipating having to go well above slot for one of these guys anyways then hypothetically they still have a few hundred thousand to throw elsewhere.

 

I'm intrigued by this "draft and follow" which apparently allows you to give a guy a bonus larger than 150K and not count against the pool and sign them up until a week before next years draft. I guess it was an old rule that came back under the new CBA.

[mvp 78]

And they lose the 5% overage too, BUT if they were anticipating having to go well above slot for one of these guys anyways then hypothetically they still have a few hundred thousand to throw elsewhere.

 

I'm intrigued by this "draft and follow" which apparently allows you to give a guy a bonus larger than 150K and not count against the pool and sign them up until a week before next years draft. I guess it was an old rule that came back under the new CBA.

 

It's specifically for JuCo guys. Why? IDK.

[Hugh2]

It's specifically for JuCo guys. Why? IDK.

 

What I want to know is where does the money come from? if they decide to sign him does it come out of next years pool? I'd be willing to be soxprospects addresses this, either in an article or the next podcast, but I'm too lazy to go through all the threads and see or to google it. Maybe I'll have the motivation to do so later haha.

[mvp 78]

What I want to know is where does the money come from? if they decide to sign him does it come out of next years pool? I'd be willing to be soxprospects addresses this, either in an article or the next podcast, but I'm too lazy to go through all the threads and see or to google it. Maybe I'll have the motivation to do so later haha.

 

Until it actually happens, it's actually knowledge that you'll gain that may push out something useful. Also, it's a pain in the ass to find out some of this esoteric MLB rule stuff. Yes, let the podcasters deal with it.

[mvp 78]

@brendan_camp

#RedSox sign University of Connecticut catcher Matt Donlan

 

@UConnBSB

Threatening both at the plate and behind it is the best way to describe Matt Donlan

 

Along with having a knack for delivering in the biggest moments, his defensive skillset is invaluable, with a cannon of an arm unmatched in the NCAA. Hope to see it at Fenway soon! #UConnBred

 

UConn made a nice little video package of him. The arm looks legit.

 

https://twitter.com/UConnBSB/status/1549802575804907520

Edited July 20, 2022 by mvp 78

[mvp 78]

@brendan_camp

#RedSox sign University of Connecticut catcher Matt Donlan

 

@UConnBSB

Threatening both at the plate and behind it is the best way to describe Matt Donlan

 

Along with having a knack for delivering in the biggest moments, his defensive skillset is invaluable, with a cannon of an arm unmatched in the NCAA. Hope to see it at Fenway soon! #UConnBred

 

UConn made a nice little video package of him. The arm looks legit.

 

https://twitter.com/UConnBSB/status/1549802575804907520

 

I've never seen a montage that was throw runner out/hit a bomb/throw a runner out/hit a bomb/repeat 5x. Great stuff.

[moonslav59]

The Bleacher Report graded all team drafts.

 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10042696-2022-mlb-draft-results-grades-for-overall-team-by-team-results

 

The worst:

D LAD

D TBR

C- BOS

C- MIL

C+ HOU

C+ CHC

 

(BAL A, TOR B+, NYY

 

Edited July 21, 2022 by moonslav59

[mvp 78]

The Bleacher Report graded all team drafts.

 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10042696-2022-mlb-draft-results-grades-for-overall-team-by-team-results

 

The worst:

D LAD

D TBR

C- BOS

C- MIL

C+ HOU

C+ CHC

 

(BAL A, TOR B+, NYY

 

 

I'd trust TBR's drafting over Bleacher Report...

[sk7326]

Law's writeup in the Athletic - he doesn't do grades

 

https://theathletic.com/3433211/2022/07/20/mlb-draft-report-cards-american-league/

 

The Red Sox took a high school infielder from California in the first round for the third year in a row, grabbing shortstop Mikey Romero (1), a polished player with advanced ball/strike recognition and general instincts. He started to show more power later in the spring, which might take him from someone very likely to be a regular but unlikely to be more to a guy with some ceiling. He projects to stay at shortstop as well. Cutter Coffey (2) is also a California high school shortstop, although he’s probably moving to third base in pro ball. He had huge problems with offspeed stuff when hitting with wood last summer, but looked better this spring — albeit against much worse competition. If this improvement is real, he has first-round upside, but there’s a lot of risk given what scouts saw last summer.

 

Outfielder Roman Anthony (2A) has also had trouble with offspeed stuff, and might be vulnerable to hard stuff in, but he’s shown plus power and has the prototypical build for a corner bat. Lefty reliever Dalton Rogers (3) of Southern Miss pitches almost exclusively with his 90-94 mph fastball, with an occasional changeup that’s solid-average. He’s a junior, but a straight reliever, and I wonder if this is a below-slot deal. Chase Meidroth (4) is a slightly undersized college second baseman who won’t turn 21 until next week, rarely punching out thanks to an extremely short path to the ball that, combined with a very early weight transfer, leaves him with below-average power. Lefty Noah Dean (5) lives almost exclusively with his riding four-seamer at 93-96 mph, coming from a high slot with it, but doesn’t throw anything else for a strike. With a little better control he could be a middle reliever pretty quickly, but I’m sure Boston will try to boost one of his other pitches first.

[sk7326]

The Bleacher Report graded all team drafts.

 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10042696-2022-mlb-draft-results-grades-for-overall-team-by-team-results

 

The worst:

D LAD

D TBR

C- BOS

C- MIL

C+ HOU

C+ CHC

 

(BAL A, TOR B+, NYY

 

 

Given what the Dodgers have been able to produce, I look at that very skeptically.

 

One of the interesting things Law noted was that the Red Sox organizationally think they can teach the hitters to drive the ball more and get into their power - and thus seem okay drafting more of these high contact middle infielders who have not shown power at the amateur level.

[Hugh2]

The Bleacher Report graded all team drafts.

 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10042696-2022-mlb-draft-results-grades-for-overall-team-by-team-results

 

The worst:

D LAD

D TBR

C- BOS

C- MIL

C+ HOU

C+ CHC

 

(BAL A, TOR B+, NYY

 

 

Bleacher report might be the single worse source out there. I could write for Bleacherreport.

[Hugh2]

Klaw is, has been, and seemingly always will be low on the soxprospects. He (mostly) always has their guys ranked lower, and is a known lifelong Yankees fan. He's still great, with good perspective, and mostly fair, but there is a bias there.

[mvp 78]

Given what the Dodgers have been able to produce, I look at that very skeptically.

 

One of the interesting things Law noted was that the Red Sox organizationally think they can teach the hitters to drive the ball more and get into their power - and thus seem okay drafting more of these high contact middle infielders who have not shown power at the amateur level.

 

I think you can teach power. I don't think you can teach contact skills. I think would agree with the Sox theory then.

[notin]

Bleacher report might be the single worse source out there. I could write for Bleacherreport.

 

 

No you couldn’t.

 

Not with your addiction to subjects, predicates, coherency and common sense…

[notin]

I think you can teach power. I don't think you can teach contact skills. I think would agree with the Sox theory then.

 

Contact (at the center of mass) + bat speed = power.

 

There. Consider it taught…

[Larry Cook]

The Bleacher Report graded all team drafts.

 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10042696-2022-mlb-draft-results-grades-for-overall-team-by-team-results

 

The worst:

D LAD

D TBR

C- BOS

C- MIL

C+ HOU

C+ CHC

 

(BAL A, TOR B+, NYY

 

 

Come august 2nd we will see who is signed, which should give us a more informed reaction to the draft.

 

But I thought Hang’em Chaim and the baseball operations dept did a great job of drafting done really singable talent.

[moonslav59]

Come august 2nd we will see who is signed, which should give us a more informed reaction to the draft.

 

But I thought Hang’em Chaim and the baseball operations dept did a great job of drafting done really singable talent.

 

I have no idea how well we drafted. I only posted this one, because it was the only site I could find that gave a grade for the entire draft by teams.

[Larry Cook]

I have no idea how well we drafted. I only posted this one, because it was the only site I could find that gave a grade for the entire draft by teams.

 

I am keeping my eyes on Brannon. I do not think he stays at catcher, but I think he could be quite a player in a few years.

[moonslav59]

I am keeping my eyes on Brannon. I do not think he stays at catcher, but I think he could be quite a player in a few years.

 

Everybody drafted in the first few rounds "could be..."