2022 MLB Draft

[Larry Cook]

Everybody drafted in the first few rounds "could be..."

 

True, isn’t that what makes following prospects so much fun?

[moonslav59]

True, isn’t that what makes following prospects so much fun?

 

Yes, but when you draft this low, it's such a crap shoot. It's easy to pick a guy, see the upside and get all gah-gah, and think we got a steal, no matter who we might have drafted.

 

I'm not trying to rain on your or anyone's parade. I'm hopeful Bloom did well, but our first picks seemed to be guys many had going later or much later. I'm having a hard time getting overly optimistic.

[Larry Cook]

Yes, but when you draft this low, it's such a crap shoot. It's easy to pick a guy, see the upside and get all gah-gah, and think we got a steal, no matter who we might have drafted.

 

I'm not trying to rain on your or anyone's parade. I'm hopeful Bloom did well, but our first picks seemed to be guys many had going later or much later. I'm having a hard time getting overly optimistic.

 

Hang’em Chaim has a type. Two types actually.

 

He loves prep players with huge hit tools.

 

And he loves power.

 

Ps: Brannon may be both in one prospect.

 

I trust the Red Sox process and could feel really good about this draft, depending on how many they can sign!

[mvp 78]

I have no idea how well we drafted. I only posted this one, because it was the only site I could find that gave a grade for the entire draft by teams.

 

I just feel like our farm system is in much better shape the past two years than it was previously. There will always be swing and misses. (Maybe Yorke doesn't turn it around.) I'm not going to get too hot and bothered over the draft because these guys have actually seen the players they drafted.

[mvp 78]

Yes, but when you draft this low, it's such a crap shoot. It's easy to pick a guy, see the upside and get all gah-gah, and think we got a steal, no matter who we might have drafted.

 

I'm not trying to rain on your or anyone's parade. I'm hopeful Bloom did well, but our first picks seemed to be guys many had going later or much later. I'm having a hard time getting overly optimistic.

 

Even when you are drafting in the top 5, it's still a crap shoot. Even the best talents don't always develop in the way that you hope.

[moonslav59]

Even when you are drafting in the top 5, it's still a crap shoot. Even the best talents don't always develop in the way that you hope.

 

True, but it's easier to get excited about a #4 or 5 pick.

[moonslav59]

I just feel like our farm system is in much better shape the past two years than it was previously. There will always be swing and misses. (Maybe Yorke doesn't turn it around.) I'm not going to get too hot and bothered over the draft because these guys have actually seen the players they drafted.

 

I'm far from hot and bothered. I'm just not able to get excited over names I don't know, and who services had slotted way lower than our slots.

 

I am super excited about the progress of our farm since Bloom's take-over.

 

I'm also happy that many of the prospects DD acquired did better than I expected back when Bloom took over.

[mvp 78]

True, but it's easier to get excited about a #4 or 5 pick.

 

IDK, the highlight of Roman hitting a 450' bomb in Coors with a wood bat got me pretty excited. Helped that he also signed almost immediately.

[Hugh2]

I'm far from hot and bothered. I'm just not able to get excited over names I don't know, and who services had slotted way lower than our slots.

 

I am super excited about the progress of our farm since Bloom's take-over.

 

I'm also happy that many of the prospects DD acquired did better than I expected back when Bloom took over.

 

after the first 15 picks or so national rankings are absolute garbage. Yorke was ranked 139th, would probably be a top 5-10 pick if we had a 2020 redraft today. Romero was climbing the draft boards and the Sox knew other teams were going to take him before their next pick at 41. Coffee was another kid whose stock was rising and Roman Anthony had national rankings higher than his slot value. Personally, I love the higher risk higher reward profile of taking younger guys. The Sox seem to be above average at identifying and developing young talent on the offensive side of the ball, so to me....I trust their rankings better than the national rankings only talk to other scouts who weigh in teams' rankings who can't draft ball boy.

[Hugh2]

Lets also remember that sometimes teams draft guys who will take less money so they can draft better talent in the later rounds.

 

Nobody projected Yorke as first-round pick but it gave them the money to sign Blaze Jordan.

 

in hindsight, not only did they get a good prospect in Jordan but it looks like Yorke was well justified in that slot. The Sox internal board is better than what you read on MLB.com/FG/PG/BA. It just is, outside the top 10-15, they're meaningless.

 

In the end, the only real true test to how good this draft is will be time, but if track record means anything, then this draft should have you feeling pretty excited.

[sk7326]

Klaw is, has been, and seemingly always will be low on the soxprospects. He (mostly) always has their guys ranked lower, and is a known lifelong Yankees fan. He's still great, with good perspective, and mostly fair, but there is a bias there.

 

He worked for the Blue Jays and lived in Boston and has largely the Sox FO and business practices. The one thing about prospect guys is that you don't know exactly what they mark for. If one site gives prospects more credit for floor vs ceiling then you are going to have different evals. Mayer is an easy choice for the org's #1 player tho.

[mvp 78]

after the first 15 picks or so national rankings are absolute garbage. Yorke was ranked 139th, would probably be a top 5-10 pick if we had a 2020 redraft today. Romero was climbing the draft boards and the Sox knew other teams were going to take him before their next pick at 41. Coffee was another kid whose stock was rising and Roman Anthony had national rankings higher than his slot value. Personally, I love the higher risk higher reward profile of taking younger guys. The Sox seem to be above average at identifying and developing young talent on the offensive side of the ball, so to me....I trust their rankings better than the national rankings only talk to other scouts who weigh in teams' rankings who can't draft ball boy.

 

Yes, Coffey was rising right before the draft and it's not shown in national rankings, similar to how Romero was showing late power that started pushing him up late. Each team has their own scouts and their own draft strategy. I just can't say that Keith Law could compete with the Sox one on one if it came down to it. I bet Bloom's board year over year would be better than Law's.

[sk7326]

I'm far from hot and bothered. I'm just not able to get excited over names I don't know, and who services had slotted way lower than our slots.

 

I am super excited about the progress of our farm since Bloom's take-over.

 

I'm also happy that many of the prospects DD acquired did better than I expected back when Bloom took over.

 

The thing with Dombrowski is that was not incompetent at drafting or anything - the man has been in baseball a billion years, he knows HOW to build a farm system. But the teams that hire him want him to turbocharge the major league club. Dombrowski's biggest strength is being able to look at the prospects, identify the "keep vs deal" and largely be right.

 

What has happened with Bloom though is that the team has the most pitching in the system it has had in years. You wish there was a guy with more than #3 starter upside - but with how baseball pitching staffs are trending, that might not matter all that much.

[sk7326]

Yes, Coffey was rising right before the draft and it's not shown in national rankings, similar to how Romero was showing late power that started pushing him up late. Each team has their own scouts and their own draft strategy. I just can't say that Keith Law could compete with the Sox one on one if it came down to it. I bet Bloom's board year over year would be better than Law's.

 

Oh all the public prospect guys would tell you that ... every year some team drafts a guy in the top 30 who does not appear on one of the big public scouts (Law, McDaniel, Logenhagen, Sickels) boards. The public facing guys do the best they can, but they are just not going to have the information and coverage clubs have (particularly medical information which is such a big part of the operation). There are just so many baseball players out there.

[Hugh2]

He worked for the Blue Jays and lived in Boston and has largely the Sox FO and business practices. The one thing about prospect guys is that you don't know exactly what they mark for. If one site gives prospects more credit for floor vs ceiling then you are going to have different evals. Mayer is an easy choice for the org's #1 player tho.

 

Inherently this is a great comment, philosophically you're spot on. But Klaw has been historically lower on Sox prospects over everyone else, every time....all the time. At some point that can't be a coincidence.

[mvp 78]

The thing with Dombrowski is that was not incompetent at drafting or anything - the man has been in baseball a billion years, he knows HOW to build a farm system. But the teams that hire him want him to turbocharge the major league club. Dombrowski's biggest strength is being able to look at the prospects, identify the "keep vs deal" and largely be right.

 

What has happened with Bloom though is that the team has the most pitching in the system it has had in years. You wish there was a guy with more than #3 starter upside - but with how baseball pitching staffs are trending, that might not matter all that much.

 

Yes, DD was/is a good GM. Bloom seems to be a good one as well. They just have two different philosophies. DD cares about the MLB squad at the expense of the rest of the system. Bloom cares about the whole organization and wants to supplement the MLB squad from the farm, not just through FA/trades.

 

DD chose right in keeping Raffy over Moncada/Kopech. Even the Kimbrel trade, while probably too heavy in prospects, didn't really come back to bite the Sox. Aside from the Thornburg trade, he did a pretty good job.

[sk7326]

Kiley McDaniel at ESPN: https://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/story/_/id/34276506/did-your-team-ace-2022-mlb-draft-kiley-mcdaniel-recap-all-30-teams#bos

 

(1/24) 56. Mikey Romero, SS, Orange Lutheran HS (CA) (40+ FV)

(2/79) 71. Roman Anthony, RF, Stoneman Douglas HS (FL) (40 FV)

(9/279) 87. Brooks Brannon, C, Randleman HS (NC) (40 FV)

(2/41) 102. Cutter Coffey, SS, Liberty HS (CA) (40 FV)

(5/159) 133. Noah Dean, LHP, Old Dominion (40 FV)

(3/99) 134. Dalton Rogers, LHP, Southern Miss (40 FV)

(13/399) 184. Gavin Kilen, SS, Milton HS (WI) (35+ FV)

(6/189) 259. Alex Hoppe, RHP, UNC Greensboro (35+ FV)

(4/129) HM. Chase Meidroth, 2B, San Diego

(14/429) HM. Travis Sanders, SS, Copperas Cove HS (TX)

 

Romero was the No. 1 guy I wanted to move up within 24 hours of posting the final list. He's one of the better bets in the prep class to hit, he's a left-handed hitter with a track record, there's some raw power (but the swing isn't geared to tap into it yet), and he'll play in the infield (though his arm strength is just OK right now). I wanted to move him into the mid-30s and that also gives context for the Red Sox pick; it was a little above what was expected, but the 30s, maybe over slot in the 40s is what I was expecting for Romero. It makes sense given the preference for Alex Verdugo, Jeter Downs, Nick Yorke and Marcelo Mayer under the Chaim Bloom regime that the Sox would be higher on Romero than other teams and might have also saved a bit here.

 

Anthony looked like a comp/second-round bat at times this spring, but he had a pretty meh summer and is a corner-only guy, so I get why he slid a bit. Brannon looked to be a back-half-of-the-second-rounder as a catcher with real power who had a huge spring but didn't do any summer events, and I'm guessing the Sox paid him down to the ninth round. Coffey had long been tied to the Sox like the other prep prospects (and like a half-dozen others they didn't take) and he's a bit polarizing, but he has bat speed, raw power and an infield fit (probably third base) along with a decent backup plan on the mound (low-90s sinker/slider from a low slot). Kilen will be a tough sign but I really liked him over the summer (my preseason list had Jackson Holliday 12th, Romero 24th and Kilen 25th) and thought he'd go in the second round like Noah Miller (a similar type from a similar area) did in last year's draft, but Kilen was underwhelming this spring. Sanders is another prep shortstop a tier or two below these players who could benefit from three seasons in college.

 

I ranked Dean and Rogers back-to-back as different types of power lefty relievers. Rogers has a low-slot, flat-angled fastball in the mid-90s and enough off-speed to go multiple innings. Dean is up to 100 mph with bat-missing shape, an above-average slurve, and is overall more of a one-inning-at-a-time fire-breather. Hoppe is 23½ but sits in the mid-90s with bat-missing shape, an above-average slider and better-than-you'd-think command for a college reliever. Meidroth is a smallish but productive second-base type with a good approach.

[moonslav59]

Good summary. I feel a little better, but I’m still not all gah-gah, yet.

[Larry Cook]

Rumor is 6th round pick hoppe signed for 32,240.

[Larry Cook]

Rumor is 7th round pick bolden signed for 7,500.

[Larry Cook]

Rumor is 8th round pick brand signed for 7,500.

[Larry Cook]

Rumor is 10th round pick Coffey (the second coffey taken in the draft) signed for 7,500.

[Larry Cook]

Rumor is 3rd round pick Roman Anthony signed for 2.5 million.

[Larry Cook]

Rumor is 3rd round pick Roman Anthony signed for 2.5 million.

 

Meant 2nd 2nd round pick. Not 3rd.

[mvp 78]

Meant 2nd 2nd round pick. Not 3rd.

 

Comp Round pick?

[Hugh2]

Comp Round pick?

 

For losing Eduardo Rodriguez.

[mvp 78]

@alexspeier

Red Sox signings of first rounder Mikey Romero and second rounder Cutter Coffey are official. Romero gets a $2.3M bonus and Coffey gets $1.8475M.

 

Romero is amost $700k under, Coffey about $50k under.

Edited July 25, 2022 by mvp 78

[mvp 78]

There have been reported agreements on all top 10 signees except:

3: Dalton Rogers

4: Chase Medroth

5: Noah Dean

[mvp 78]

@jimcallisMLB

17th-rder Deundre Jones signs with @RedSox for $125k. Texas HS OF, line-drive bat, solid athlete. Kansas State recruit.

@MLBDraft

[mvp 78]

There have been reported agreements on all top 10 signees except:

3: Dalton Rogers

4: Chase Medroth

5: Noah Dean

 

SoxProspects

5th-round pick Noah Dean signing his contract.