Yankees 2021 Season Thread

[moonslav59]

Well, Judge seems to have finally turned the corner. The jury is still out on the rest of the Yankees offense, since they are playing the Orioles. Nonetheless, they are winning games again, which makes the next few weeks a lot more fun. Who will be in 1st on June 4th: Sox or Yanks?

 

How long will Judge stay healthy?

 

Stanton, too.

[Thunder]

How long will Judge stay healthy?

 

Stanton, too.

 

They have both already been banged up on multiple occasions. Nothing significant, though. I hope they stay healthy, but you're right. It does seem inevitable for one or both to go down for an extended time

[Bellhorn04]

Well, Judge seems to have finally turned the corner. The jury is still out on the rest of the Yankees offense, since they are playing the Orioles. Nonetheless, they are winning games again, which makes the next few weeks a lot more fun. Who will be in 1st on June 4th: Sox or Yanks?

 

Good pun with Judge and jury.

[Thunder]

Good pun with Judge and jury.

 

Thanks. It was so subtle I thought nobody would notice.

[moonslav59]

They have both already been banged up on multiple occasions. Nothing significant, though. I hope they stay healthy, but you're right. It does seem inevitable for one or both to go down for an extended time

 

I only bring it up because jacko is always predicting missed time due to injury for Eovaldi and more recently ERod who has started 27 or more games for 5 years, until Covid- not an injury forced a missed season.

[jacksonianmarch]

Judge goes big fly again

[Thunder]

Those O's sure are gritty when it comes to avoiding sweeps

[moonslav59]

Montgomery is literally el fuego!

[dgalehouse]

Jordan Montgomery is another one of those guys who has somehow become overrated. Truth is , he is not that good. He is just another mediocre pitcher . There are many like that.

[iortiz]

Wow the Y lost lol

[moonslav59]

The silence is deafening.

[jacksonianmarch]

Just got home from work. Left up 5-2 then saw this craziness. Wow. Montgomery is a mid rotation to back rotation guy. He’s a crafty lefty who needs his location and all his pitches. He couldn’t command anything and couldn’t throw his change in the zone. That’s gonna happen

[moonslav59]

It took just one game?

[jacksonianmarch]

He’s still a good starter, but he’s not an ace. Never pretended he was

[moonslav59]

He’s still a good starter, but he’s not an ace. Never pretended he was

 

I never said you called him an ace, but it was just days ago you were praising him up and down and finding criteria that made him look much better than our starters.

[jacksonianmarch]

I never said you called him an ace, but it was just days ago you were praising him up and down and finding criteria that made him look much better than our starters.

 

One bad game doesn't change that

[Thunder]

All I know is that Montgomery allowed me to win my fantasy matchup with bkz, so I'm happy. He likely would have held on if Montgomery had a better start

[bkzwhitestrican]

All I know is that Montgomery allowed me to win my fantasy matchup with bkz, so I'm happy. He likely would have held on if Montgomery had a better start

 

I don't think it would've mattered since I had already won ERA, WHIP, and Ks. But one would've expected Mongomery to pitch better and deeper into a game against the O's.

 

The one that hurt was Dylan Cease getting pulled after 5 and 2/3 innings yesterday even though he was only at like 80 something pitches and had only allowed 1 run. That quality start would've at least gotten me a tie for the week. Oh well, nice win. Your pitching almost came back against me as well.

[Thunder]

I don't think it would've mattered since I had already won ERA, WHIP, and Ks. But one would've expected Mongomery to pitch better and deeper into a game against the O's.

 

The one that hurt was Dylan Cease getting pulled after 5 and 2/3 innings yesterday even though he was only at like 80 something pitches and had only allowed 1 run. That quality start would've at least gotten me a tie for the week. Oh well, nice win. Your pitching almost came back against me as well.

 

Yeah it was a huge risk to leave Lopez in against the Dodgers but I had a party at 4 and I didn't see Cease get pulled so I figured you would pull ahead in QS. Glad that Haniger and Ramirez had a good day in that game too, or else OBP could have flipped again. Definitely the closest matchup I've had so far.

[moonslav59]

One bad game doesn't change that

 

You never said what you said, today, about Montgomery.

 

You have not always said only good things, but just days ago you were praising him.

[Bellhorn04]

You never said what you said, today, about Montgomery.

 

You have not always said only good things, but just days ago you were praising him.

 

I think we're all guilty of being subject to the recency effect.

[moonslav59]

I think we're all guilty of being subject to the recency effect.

 

Yes, and as much as I try to avoid those inclinations, I too have succumbed.

 

(The "sucky Six" being my latest.)

[jacksonianmarch]

And Stanton to the IL

[moonslav59]

Another look at the Yankee starters not named Cole:

 

Kluber was a stud-no doubt, and not for a short time. He was one of baseball's most dominatnt pitchers from 2014 to 2018 9151 ERA+ 1.016 WHIP), but he's pitched less than 37 innings from 2019-2020. He looks to be getting back in form, but is still far from those 5 year numbers.

3.48 ERA (116 ERA+) 4.00 FIP

1.403 WHIP is a worrisome number.

His 4.1 BB/9 is over double his career number.

 

Even if you can put aside German's personal issues, and missed 2020 season, his numbers are not all that good from 2018 to 2021:

4.47 ERA (98 ERA+)

1.207 WHIP

2.7 BB/9 and 9.9 K/9 rates (1.8 HR/9)

He's doing much better, this year and was decent in 2019, but still...

 

Although Montgomery's FIP of 3.92 since 2019 is decent, his low BB/9 rate and good K/9 rate are about his only redeeming attribute.

5.02 ERA (84 ERA+)

1.249 WHIP

 

I've always liked Taillon, but he has not looked all that good, so far, this year:

5.40 ERA (75 ERA+) 4.48 FIP

1.200 WHIP is encouraging, but the 2.2 HR/9 hurts.

His K rate is way up, too (11.6).

 

All in all, I'm not sure any of the concerns from pre-season have been answered, although Kluber is showing nice signs, despite some troubling numbers.

 

No doubt, the Sox starters have been overachieving expectations, and one could show similar past troubling numbers on every Sox pitcher not named ERod, but so far, they keep chugging away and adding to their sample size of plus production, except for Eovaldi.

[moonslav59]

And Stanton to the IL

 

If he could just have one year with a healthy 675 PAs, one wonders what numbers he'd put up.

 

The guy is a DH. Being this fragile playing that position is a wonder.

[bkzwhitestrican]

Funny how it went from "just a day off to get him off his feet", to "just a minor pull that we want to get ahead of", to several missed games and now on the IL.

 

Are other teams this poor (or maybe dishonest?) with their injury diagnoses or is it just a Yankees thing?

[Bellhorn04]

If he could just have one year with a healthy 675 PAs, one wonders what numbers he'd put up.

 

The guy is a DH. Being this fragile playing that position is a wonder.

 

Yeah, it's simply incredible that he can't stay healthy even as a DH.

[moonslav59]

Funny how it went from "just a day off to get him off his feet", to "just a minor pull that we want to get ahead of", to several missed games and now on the IL.

 

Are other teams this poor (or maybe dishonest?) with their injury diagnoses or is it just a Yankees thing?

 

Or is Stanton just someone who always takes longer to get over minor injuries?

[moonslav59]

Yeah, it's simply incredible that he can't stay healthy even as a DH.

 

In all fairness he did get 705 PAs in 2018 (38 HRs and 100 RBIs) and 692 in 2017 (59 HRs and 132 RBIs), but that seems like ages ago.

[bkzwhitestrican]

Or is Stanton just someone who always takes longer to get over minor injuries?

 

Possibly, but this has happened basically every year for the past 10 or so years (starting with Teixeira's "minor leg bruise" that turned out to be a fractured leg). Everything is considered a minor injury until it isn't.

Edited May 17, 2021 by bkzwhitestrican