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There is something to be said for the motto " Never give up " . Well , maybe not . I wish him well . I'm a little crazy , but I tend to pull for all former Sox players . ( Except when they play us of course )

 

Oh I agree. I always root for players I used to follow, no matter what the sport, and no matter who they play for. (Trying to think of an amusing exception ... ok, Austin Rivers, although I have to say, I'm now beginning to warm to him, simply because he's sort of a loud-mouthed a-hole [i can so relate] who doesn't mind getting into it with anyone.)

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There is something to be said for the motto " Never give up " . Well , maybe not . I wish him well . I'm a little crazy , but I tend to pull for all former Sox players . ( Except when they play us of course )

 

I pull for most of the former Sox players. There have been some exceptions.

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McHugh is opting out. His arm isn’t healing quick enough.
I guess the Red Sox will be going with a 3 man rotation.

 

Collin McHugh Opts Out Of 2020 Season

 

By George Miller | July 19, 2020 at 3:34pm CDT

Red Sox right-hander Collin McHugh has announced his intention to opt out of the 2020 season, according to Ian Browne of MLB.com. Per Browne, McHugh said that his arm hasn’t recovered as well as he’d hoped after an elbow procedure in December.

As such, McHugh expected to spend a portion of the season on the injured list, and manager Ron Roenicke relayed (video courtesy of Rob Bradford of WEEI) that McHugh felt it best to spend that time at home with family during the pandemic. McHugh will be removed from the Boston 60-man player pool and 40-man roster.

The 33-year-old appeared to be making progress towards a return to action, but that progress seems to have stagnated recently, preventing McHugh from throwing live batting practice and ramping up into intrasquad game action.

McHugh signed on with the Red Sox in March, agreeing to an incentive-laden contract that only guaranteed him $650K for the season, but that would have allowed him to earn up to $3.625MM based on innings pitched and time spent on the active roster.

Interestingly, as Alex Speier of the Boston Globe notes, McHugh already received the entirety of his guaranteed salary for the season through the preseason advance; by opting out the season, he is forfeiting only pay from those incentives, which were far-fetched given the injury.

With McHugh choosing to sit this season out, he’ll once again enter free agency in the coming winter, hopefully at full health and ready to contribute to a Major League club. Interested teams won’t have data and footage from 2020 to rely on, and they’ll have to weigh whether to deploy McHugh as a starter or reliever. Speculatively, a contract similar to the one he signed last winter sounds feasible.

McHugh has spent the last six years of his career with the Astros, toggling between a role in the bullpen and in the starting rotation. He has succeeded in both roles in the past, though last year he faltered as a starter, shifting to relief before injury prevented him from playing in the last third of the season. He posted a mediocre 4.70 ERA in 35 games—8 starts. 2018, on the other hand, was McHugh’s best as a pro, as he excelled in a full-time relief role, notching a 1.99 ERA while striking out 94 batters in 72 1/3 innings of work.

From a baseball perspective, the loss of McHugh will no doubt make a dent in the depth of the Boston pitching staff, which was already looking thin. Nathan Eovaldi will start on Opening Day, but beyond him, there are a bunch of question marks. Free agent signing Martin Perez is probably next in line, with Ryan Weber, Brian Johnson, and Matt Hall all in the mix. Eduardo Rodriguez, back in Red Sox camp after contracting the coronavirus, will hopefully join the rotation in short order, and Zack Godley might find himself thrust into a bigger role.

McHugh is one of many players who have chosen to spend this season on the sidelines amidst the pandemic, joining the likes of David Price, Buster Posey, Ryan Zimmerman, among others. An ongoing list of players opting out can be found here.

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I'm old. In the dream, I was playing cards, but that was better than dreaming that the Red Sox signed Buch.

 

I'm not sure about that. The Clay dream would get me pretty excited. LOL

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Seems like a great year to get a feel for what the young guys can bring to this team in 2021! Throw Downs in there at 2B and put Wong behind the plate, put the questionable arms on the mound against tough teams and see what sticks! If for nothing else we will know what to push toward next season!
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Seems like a great year to get a feel for what the young guys can bring to this team in 2021! Throw Downs in there at 2B and put Wong behind the plate, put the questionable arms on the mound against tough teams and see what sticks! If for nothing else we will know what to push toward next season!

 

I agree with this from a fan's standpoint -- but smaht organizations don't want to lose a year on the arbitration clock on prospects, especially since we're all non-paying fans this summer (unless you watch a game on TV and then rush out to buy a Chevy). If the Red Sox start out crappy and know they're going to suck, it's just a two-month slog... then they can build up the young guys all winter -- like Duran replacing Bradley -- for ticket sales next year.

 

If there is a next year...

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I agree with this from a fan's standpoint -- but smaht organizations don't want to lose a year on the arbitration clock on prospects, especially since we're all non-paying fans this summer (unless you watch a game on TV and then rush out to buy a Chevy). If the Red Sox start out crappy and know they're going to suck, it's just a two-month slog... then they can build up the young guys all winter -- like Duran replacing Bradley -- for ticket sales next year.

 

If there is a next year...

 

Since they are expected to lose games and revenue this year, it's actually a really good time to try out some weird s***. If Downs is ready, throw him in there. As for the pitchers, I think I'd hold back on forcing them up. I think you stick with their development schedule and not try to Meredith/Hansen them.

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Since they are expected to lose games and revenue this year, it's actually a really good time to try out some weird s***. If Downs is ready, throw him in there. As for the pitchers, I think I'd hold back on forcing them up. I think you stick with their development schedule and not try to Meredith/Hansen them.

 

I think if they're out of it, a guy like Arauz should play every inning somewhere on the field and get every at bat possible for MLB experience and development. We're going to see teams use a lot of young guys a lot in this sprint with few off days. It will be fascinating to see new stars emerge out of nowhere (and out of necessity)... some of whom may fade into oblivion by next year.

 

Noah Song was the closest Sox pitcher to big league ready but who knows where he'll be in another year. One thing for sure -- if there was ever a season to lose due to military obligations, it was 2020... 2021 may be another one, for all we know.

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I think if they're out of it, a guy like Arauz should play every inning somewhere on the field and get every at bat possible for MLB experience and development. We're going to see teams use a lot of young guys a lot in this sprint with few off days. It will be fascinating to see new stars emerge out of nowhere (and out of necessity)... some of whom may fade into oblivion by next year.

 

Noah Song was the closest Sox pitcher to big league ready but who knows where he'll be in another year. One thing for sure -- if there was ever a season to lose due to military obligations, it was 2020... 2021 may be another one, for all we know.

 

Verdugo, Chavis and Dalbec need AB's too. I think Roenicke just goes with a normal/boring starting lineup for the most part. I doubt Arauz gets more than 10-15 starts unless there is an injury. If there were more high end young pitchers, we'd probably see more interesting choices there.

 

I bet Wong and Downs hang out in PAW for the whole year.

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Verdugo, Chavis and Dalbec need AB's too. I think Roenicke just goes with a normal/boring starting lineup for the most part. I doubt Arauz gets more than 10-15 starts unless there is an injury. If there were more high end young pitchers, we'd probably see more interesting choices there.

 

I bet Wong and Downs hang out in PAW for the whole year.

 

You're probably right, unless they really suck and Bloom trades every guy who's contract is up: JBJ, Pillar, Moreland, Workman, JD (opt out), etc. But no pretender/contender will be dumb enough to give up much for a postseason run that may be shut down, unless they're low level unrated prospects.

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You're probably right, unless they really suck and Bloom trades every guy who's contract is up: JBJ, Pillar, Moreland, Workman, JD (opt out), etc. But no pretender/contender will be dumb enough to give up much for a postseason run that may be shut down, unless they're low level unrated prospects.

 

And the problem with trades is that you can only trade for guys in another team's 60 player pool. It really limits the type of prospects you can get when you move your established players. I don't believe Pillar/Moreland/JBJ would bring much back in return. I think dealing Workman makes sense. I'm not sure what kind of return you could get for JD since he has a weird contract and the other team doesn't really know JD's long term expectations. I bet JD rides out his whole contract because I don't think he could get more on the open market, especially in light of the potential impact COVID may have on FA next year.

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And the problem with trades is that you can only trade for guys in another team's 60 player pool. It really limits the type of prospects you can get when you move your established players. I don't believe Pillar/Moreland/JBJ would bring much back in return. I think dealing Workman makes sense. I'm not sure what kind of return you could get for JD since he has a weird contract and the other team doesn't really know JD's long term expectations. I bet JD rides out his whole contract because I don't think he could get more on the open market, especially in light of the potential impact COVID may have on FA next year.

 

I agree, but after last winter, this regime looks like it's prepared to take a bucket of balls rather than risk losing even average guys walking away for nothing.

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This is over 2 hours old. Covey had been a big prospect for a while, but I guess that he is on his way to palooka-ville.

 

Rays Trade Dylan Covey To Red Sox

 

By Steve Adams | July 21, 2020 at 4:30pm CDT

The Red Sox announced Tuesday that they’ve acquired right-hander Dylan Covey from the Rays. Covey is not on the 40-man roster but has been added to Boston’s 60-man player pool. In a corresponding move, left-hander Bobby Poyner was dropped from the 60-man pool but will remain in the organization, the club further announced.

 

It’s a straight depth pickup for the Red Sox, who since last season ended lost Chris Sale to Tommy John surgery, traded David Price to the Dodgers and seen March signee Collin McHugh opt out of the 2020 season. Meanwhile, expected Opening Day starter Eduardo Rodriguez is currently working back from a bout with the coronavirus, which he said made him “feel 100 years old” and question whether he’d be ready to open the season. With so much uncertainty on the staff, the Sox have brought in both Zack Godley and Covey to add some options.

 

Covey, 28, has pitched 250 1/3 innings in the big leagues but has never cemented himself as a consistent contributor. He got out to a sharp start with the ChiSox in 2018, tossing 40 1/3 innings with a 2.90 ERA and a 35-to-16 K/BB ratio, but his results quickly went south and haven’t rebounded since despite several opportunities. All told, he has a career 6.54 ERA and 5.56 FIP in the big leagues.

That said, there’s still clearly some intrigue surrounding the righty. Covey was a first-round pick of the Brewers back in 2011 but didn’t sign, and he went in the fourth round to the A’s three years later. The Sox stuck with him for three years before cutting ties, and Covey lasted all of 12 days as a free agent this offseason before the Rays scooped him up. His deal with the Rays also contained a clause that allowed him to opt out if a 40-man opportunity arose with another club, Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times reports (hence today’s move), so it seems the Red Sox could soon select Covey to the big league roster.

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This is over 2 hours old. Covey had been a big prospect for a while, but I guess that he is on his way to palooka-ville.

 

The problem with acquiring Covey is he only seems to pitch well against the Red Sox. Against everyone else he gets hammered like a sorority girl on Jell-O shot night.

 

But at least we don’t have to face him now...

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