2020 Yankees Season thread

[Thunder]

If the Yankees miss the playoffs, do the Steinbrenners fire Cashman?

[notin]

there was that 2003 WS appearance. Mo choke job.

 

The Series where I fell in love with Alex Gonzalez, easily my favorite of the Sox Post-Nomar/Pre-Bogaerts Revolving Door at Shortstop Era...

[bkzwhitestrican]

Urshela & Loaisaga to the IL. Bone spurs in his right elbow for Gio so who knows how long that keeps him out, and non-COVID illness for Lasgana so should be just a 10-day stint. On a positive note the Packers should have a good season unless Rodgers gets mauled in Week 1 like he does every season.

[jacksonianmarch]

One two run bomb and Deivi still looks legit. This is the Scranton Yanks right now. If we can get healthy and make the playoffs, we can do some damage, but the remnants of this squad are concerning for sure

[jacksonianmarch]

Schmidt got dinked and dunked there to paint Deivi

[bkzwhitestrican]

This team is trash right now. I know they're not actually as bad as they've looked over the past couple of weeks, but there's not much time to get back on track.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

They explained it today. Cash wasn’t allowed to add payroll. Colossal mistake by Hal

 

In reality, Hal is a very generous owner. I'm sure Pirates fans, Rays fans, and Mets fans would love to have an owner who spends the kind of money that Hal spends on the Yankees. Over the last ten years, you won't find an owner that has spent more money on his team than Hal Steinbrenner, and yet the Yankees haven't made one World Series appearance over the last ten years. Thus, the Yankees don't have an owner problem, they have a GM problem. How much does Hal need to spend before dummy Brian Cashman gets the Yankees into the World Series? Does Hal need to spend 400 million on payroll to make it happen? He has already given Brian Cashman big prizes including G.Cole and yet what has Cashman accomplished over the last ten years?

 

I would love to see Brian Cashman take over a team that doesn't spend, like the Pirates, Royals, or Rays. Cashman would lose 100 games a year in that setting. The only thing that keeps Brian Cashman above water is Hal's excessive spending.

 

The last time the Yankees won a World Series title, Hal opened up his wallet for Sabathia, Teixeria, and Burnett. The idea that Hal doesn't spend is ridiculous--he is one of the most generous owners in baseball.

Edited September 6, 2020 by Fan_since_Boggs

[moonslav59]

It's fun reading all this. Thanks guys. You are bringing light to an otherwise very dark time in Sox fans' lives.

[jacksonianmarch]

Cole was dynamite until the 6th. One error and the wheels fell off. The vaunted Orioles pitching held our offensive juggernaut at bay. It happens..... clearly sarcasm

 

When the offense loses the personnel and then craters, the pitching has to be super fine. Cole was amazing through 5. One error and the game was out of reach. This team is dead in the water. They need to get healthy, but it seems every time we get one guy back, two go on the IL

[Bellhorn04]

Gary Sanchez is toast.

[jacksonianmarch]

Gary Sanchez is toast.

 

I thought that in 18 and then he rebounded in 19. Sanchez is our version of Jackie Bradley offensively with a bit more power upside. When he gets hot, he’ll carry the offense and hit 10 homers in a month and bat .350. When he goes cold, he cannot hit anything.

 

Sanchez’ major issue this year as it was in 18 is that his hips are opening too soon. It’s leaving him extremely vulnerable to the outside pitch and also dropping his bat speed. He’s got a slider speed bat and cannot cover the outside part of the plate

[Kimmi]

In reality, Hal is a very generous owner. I'm sure Pirates fans, Rays fans, and Mets fans would love to have an owner who spends the kind of money that Hal spends on the Yankees. Over the last ten years, you won't find an owner that has spent more money on his team than Hal Steinbrenner, and yet the Yankees haven't made one World Series appearance over the last ten years. Thus, the Yankees don't have an owner problem, they have a GM problem. How much does Hal need to spend before dummy Brian Cashman gets the Yankees into the World Series? Does Hal need to spend 400 million on payroll to make it happen? He has already given Brian Cashman big prizes including G.Cole and yet what has Cashman accomplished over the last ten years?

 

I would love to see Brian Cashman take over a team that doesn't spend, like the Pirates, Royals, or Rays. Cashman would lose 100 games a year in that setting. The only thing that keeps Brian Cashman above water is Hal's excessive spending.

 

The last time the Yankees won a World Series title, Hal opened up his wallet for Sabathia, Teixeria, and Burnett. The idea that Hal doesn't spend is ridiculous--he is one of the most generous owners in baseball.

 

I am hardly one to defend the Yankees, but I very much disagree about Cashman. Cashman is a good GM who, IMO, too often gets overridden by people above him. Let him do his thing and the Yankees would be in much better shape as far as those huge contracts go.

 

Even with that, the Yankees are in the playoffs year after year. The playoffs are a crap shoot. I know the ultimate prize is winning the World Series, but you can't blame the GM if the team is consistently getting to the post season.

 

I do agree that Hal's spending is not the problem. He is a very generous owner.

[Kimmi]

The upcoming games that the Yankees and Blue Jays have against each other should be fun.

 

But chin up Yankees fans, you still get to play the Sox 3 more times. LOL

 

I don't think it will happen, but it's possible that there could be 4 teams in the playoffs from the same division. That's crazy.

[jacksonianmarch]

I have to anticipate that the Yanks bats will get going. It’s very strange that our pen and offense have been the issues of late when they’re the strength of the team.

 

Torres isn’t going to hit like s*** forever. Sanchez will hit again. Ford might be a Cinderella after midnight. Maybe Tauchman too, although I think he’s a better player than the 60 game sprint has shown. That’s the crazy thing about this “season”. What can you take from it for next year assuming next year is 162? Tauchman, after 60 games last year was well into his first demotion. Ford wasn’t even a twinkle in Cashman’s eye. Estrada was coming off a gunshot wound. All these guys who played big roles last year are all starting the year presses into duty again with far different results

[Thunder]

The Yankees have lost 2 straight to the Orioles? Wow, 2020 really is the year of the unthinkable

[jacksonianmarch]

The team, as currently constituted, sucks

[bkzwhitestrican]

How do Orioles fans put up with this type of play for a full season

[Fan_since_Boggs]

Good post from the Yankees fan forum:

 

Cashman has spent over 2.5 billion the last decade in salary and luxury tax to build teams that are only capable of beating the Twins in the post season. If that isn’t a wake up call for Hal I don’t know that missing the post season this year will do the trick. My guess is Cashman will do what he does best which is to deflect blame, he will offer up a scapegoat my guess is Marcus Thames.

http://www.nyyfansforum.com/showthread.php/140020-2020-Regular-Season-Notes/page118

[Thunder]

How do Orioles fans put up with this type of play for a full season

 

They don't. They just sit and wait patiently for the Ravens season to start

[dgalehouse]

MLB has had a large amount of injuries this season . This has affected the injury prone Yankees as much , if not more , than anyone. What we are seeing is that the Yankee minor league prospects , now being counted on to take up the slack, are simply not as good as they have been hyped. This is often the case with young prospects. The team taking the field for the Yanks these days is very mediocre.

[jacksonianmarch]

What prospects? Garcia has been awesome. Schmidt literally allowed 3 bleeders in 2 innings and hasn’t seen the mound since. The biggest issue for the Yanks has been veteran underperformance. Sanchez, Torres and Gardner have absolutely sucked this year. Ford, Tauchman and Estrada are not hitting like they did a year ago either. For some reason, the offense has gone to s*** and they cannot fix it rapidly enough.

 

In a normal season, right now is mid May and the team has time to get it right. The sprint plus the injuries plus the poor performance has made this especially difficult for the Yanks.

 

My assumption going forward is that Stanton and Judge will be handled with kid gloves. Built in days off, limited turf exposure, maintenance days, etc. This lineup needs them to move the line and not having them has really killed us

[notin]

What prospects? Garcia has been awesome. Schmidt literally allowed 3 bleeders in 2 innings and hasn’t seen the mound since. The biggest issue for the Yanks has been veteran underperformance. Sanchez, Torres and Gardner have absolutely sucked this year. Ford, Tauchman and Estrada are not hitting like they did a year ago either. For some reason, the offense has gone to s*** and they cannot fix it rapidly enough.

 

In a normal season, right now is mid May and the team has time to get it right. The sprint plus the injuries plus the poor performance has made this especially difficult for the Yanks.

 

My assumption going forward is that Stanton and Judge will be handled with kid gloves. Built in days off, limited turf exposure, maintenance days, etc. This lineup needs them to move the line and not having them has really killed us

 

 

New lock on the video room door?

[jacksonianmarch]

Who knows. Bats just looks slow. Not sure what the deal is. The Yanks of last year hit fastballs and this year, they all seem a tick slow. Not sure why. My bet is Thames will be a casualty here, but I honestly don’t know. This isn’t a talent issue. This is a performance issue

[Kimmi]

What prospects? Garcia has been awesome. Schmidt literally allowed 3 bleeders in 2 innings and hasn’t seen the mound since. The biggest issue for the Yanks has been veteran underperformance. Sanchez, Torres and Gardner have absolutely sucked this year. Ford, Tauchman and Estrada are not hitting like they did a year ago either. For some reason, the offense has gone to s*** and they cannot fix it rapidly enough.

 

In a normal season, right now is mid May and the team has time to get it right. The sprint plus the injuries plus the poor performance has made this especially difficult for the Yanks.

 

My assumption going forward is that Stanton and Judge will be handled with kid gloves. Built in days off, limited turf exposure, maintenance days, etc. This lineup needs them to move the line and not having them has really killed us

 

The same could be said for the Red Sox.

[Bellhorn04]

The Yankees offense had some crazy over-performance last year from guys who replaced the injured regulars. This year a huge correction has taken place.

[jacksonianmarch]

The Yankees offense had some crazy over-performance last year from guys who replaced the injured regulars. This year a huge correction has taken place.

 

A huge correction plus underperformances from key contributors.

[jacksonianmarch]

The same could be said for the Red Sox.

 

No, the Red Sox don’t have the personnel. Their issues aren’t performance related, they’re personnel related. For the Yanks, it’s injury and performance. Their team is clearly good enough to win, they just aren’t right now

[notin]

Who knows. Bats just looks slow. Not sure what the deal is. The Yanks of last year hit fastballs and this year, they all seem a tick slow. Not sure why. My bet is Thames will be a casualty here, but I honestly don’t know. This isn’t a talent issue. This is a performance issue

 

I think it’s a personnel issue.

 

The Yankees have some talented hitters, but they have also filled their lineup with players jettisoned from other teams who miraculously “figured out” how to hit in the Bronx. Guys like Urshela, Grigorius, Tauchman, Hicks, and Voit. Maybe Cashman finds the occasional diamond in the rough, but his track record recently has leap-frogged over “ridiculous” and straight into “suspicious”...

[jacksonianmarch]

Urshela has crushed the ball this year. He just happens to be hurt.

 

Hicks had been a plus offensive contributor. 8.4 WAR from 17-18 is no joke. He was hurt last year and this year he looks lost.

 

Voit has been our best player by far.

 

The guys who aren’t hitting are Gardner, Sanchez, Hicks, Torres, Andujar, Tauchman and Ford. Of those players, only Tauchman and Ford were 2019 flash in the pan replacement guys. The rest have had major offensive success in the bigs. This isn’t personnel. This isn’t some magical loss of power and contact. This is an entire team either getting hurt or underperforming

[Bellhorn04]

The bottom line is that Cash wears it.

 

To me Cash is a guy who makes a lot of really good moves. But he also does some weird things. Not doing anything at this year's deadline was weird. Kind of like he gave up on this year.