Red Sox close to deal with Kevin Pillar

[Jasonbay44]

 

Does this maybe mean JBJ is being traded?

[Jack Flap]

We have had good luck with Kevin _illars in the past, so I like this.

[notin]

 

Does this maybe mean JBJ is being traded?

 

 

Or platooned...

[mvp 78]

I’ve been asking this for a while now.

[Jasonbay44]

I was hoping for Puig, but this is a solid signing. Whole starting OF is left handed and I don't want to see any JD in OF.

[jacksonianmarch]

With Puello coming in and Pillar, it makes you wonder if JBJ is next out of town

[notin]

With Puello coming in and Pillar, it makes you wonder if JBJ is next out of town

 

Puello is Gorkys 2.0. He’s on an MiLB contract...

[notin]

I was hoping for Puig, but this is a solid signing. Whole starting OF is left handed and I don't want to see any JD in OF.

 

Yes because Kevin Pillar and his robust .766 OPS against LHP will keep those southpaws honest...

[Jasonbay44]

Yes because Kevin Pillar and his robust .766 OPS against LHP will keep those southpaws honest...

 

Better than JBJ

[redsoxrules]

Hope he comes cheap because he's overrated

[notin]

Better than JBJ

 

Better than a Benintendi, too. But not Verdugo.

 

Pillar’s a platoon with JBJ. But really all he does is bring maybe slightly improved offense while maintaining elite defense...

[FredLynn]

 

Does this maybe mean JBJ is being traded?

 

I sure hope so. Bradley has proved what he can do with a bat in his hands here.....and what he can't do. Lets see if we can get a bag of used golf balls for him.

[moonslav59]

I sure hope so. Bradley has proved what he can do with a bat in his hands here.....and what he can't do. Lets see if we can get a bag of used golf balls for him.

 

He's owed $11M. Maybe we find a team looking to save some money and had a decent pitcher making $12-18M a year. We'd still be significantly under the lux tax, but we'd be much better with our rotation and maybe close to the same in CF with Pillar/Puello vs JBJ.

[Tedballgame]

Love it. Pillar is a great CFer and can still hit for power.

[mvp 78]

Hope he comes cheap because he's overrated

 

He’ll be half the price of JBJ and almost the same player. Good signing. He gets hot from time to time too.

[mvp 78]

I don’t think this means JBJ is traded though. I think Bloom is just filling out his roster with guys who play hard.

[harmony]

He's owed $11M. Maybe we find a team looking to save some money and had a decent pitcher making $12-18M a year. We'd still be significantly under the lux tax, but we'd be much better with our rotation and maybe close to the same in CF with Pillar/Puello vs JBJ.

Jackie Bradley Jr. for San Francisco righthander Jeff Samardzija:

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/samarje01.shtml

 

Or not.

[moonslav59]

Pillar splits over the last 3 years:

v LHP/ v RHP

.823/.681 (2019)

.686/.717 (2018)

.940/.628 (2017)

Overall: .711

3 year UZR/150: +2.8

DRS +8 in 3686 innings

 

JBJ

.640/.787 (2019)

.562/.768 (2018)

.766/.713 (2017)

Overall: .727

UZR/150: +4.1

DRS: +7 in 3589 innings

 

Small 2019 sample size

Puello

.841/.669 (.740 overall in 147 PAs)

[mvp 78]

Jackie Bradley Jr. for San Francisco righthander Jeff Samardzija:

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/samarje01.shtml

 

Or not.

SF already filled their OF.

[S5Dewey]

Oh, you people. Sigh.

 

The writing is on the wall. Pillar was picked up to replace Mookie's defense in RF. Our outfield is now Benintendi, JBJ, Pillar.

[moonslav59]

Jackie Bradley Jr. for San Francisco righthander Jeff Samardzija:

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/samarje01.shtml

 

Or not.

 

How about JBJ & Chavis for Familia, Matz & DSmith? The trade simulator accepts the trade without Chavis!

It also accepts JBJ & Chavis for just Matz and Smith, but we'd probably have to give some cash.

 

 

JBJ & ____ for Danny Duffy or Ian Kennedy?

Edited February 12, 2020 by moonslav59

[moonslav59]

Oh, you people. Sigh.

 

The writing is on the wall. Pillar was picked up to replace Mookie's defense in RF. Our outfield is now Benintendi, JBJ, Pillar.

 

Verdugo is our FT RF'er.

[Jasonbay44]

Verdugo is our FT RF'er.

 

This. There is no reason Verdugo shouldn’t be starting

[moonslav59]

This. There is no reason Verdugo shouldn’t be starting

 

Looking at the splits (see below), Pillar will play CF vs LHPs and maybe RF/LF when Verdugo/Beni needs a rest.

[Swiharts Ghost]

Looking at the splits (see below), Pillar will play CF vs LHPs and maybe RF/LF when Verdugo/Beni needs a rest.

 

Pillar has to be slotted as the Starting CF Verdugo can play CF and Benny seems redundant to have JBJ now ? I think a trade for a starter has to be next .JBJ on the block Moon says Matz and after his tweaking his game last year I’d love this for both teams didn’t Matz improve his spin rate and his explosion ? They where just talking Matz on MLB radio this week .could we actually flip Wong and JBJ ?

Edited February 12, 2020 by Swiharts Ghost

[notin]

SF already filled their OF.

 

With who? Have you seen their OF depth chart? Which of the following 3 start over JBJ?

 

Mike Yastrzemski (OK, he's one.)

Alex Dickerson

Steve Duggar

Hunter Pence

Billy Hamilton

Chris Shaw

Jaylin Davis

Austin Slater

[Jack Flap]

JBJ isn't blocking anyone better, he appears to have little to no trade value (or he would have been moved already), and the Red Sox are now far enough below the CBT line that they shouldn't need to engage in further payroll-dumping just for the sake of it. What purpose would trading him now serve?

[notin]

Looking at the splits (see below), Pillar will play CF vs LHPs and maybe RF/LF when Verdugo/Beni needs a rest.

 

I think that is the idea here.

 

Pillar in CF vs LHP and backing up Verdugo or Benintendi in case of injuries, etc...

[moonslav59]

Pillar has to be slotted as the Starting CF Verdugo can play CF and Benny seems redundant to have JBJ now ? I think a trade for a starter has to be next .JBJ on the block Moon says Matz and after his tweaking his game last year I’d love this for both teams didn’t Matz improve his spin rate and his explosion ? They where just talking Matz on MLB radio this week .could we actually flip Wong and JBJ ?

 

Matz makes $5M and has one arb left. JBJ is owed $11M and is done after this year. A one for one deal would not fly.

 

Maybe we pay $5-6M, but even then, I think NY says no.

 

We'd have to add someone (Houck? Chavis?) or take on some salary (Familia is owed $11.7M x 2 and the lux tax number is $10M x 2.) Familia & Matz for JBJ would save NY $5.7M, this year and $11.7M next year. To me, that's not fair to Boston, unless Bloom expects a Familia rebound.

 

Maybe JBJ for Matz & Familia +$5M?

 

I'd like JBJ, Houck & Chavis for Matz, Smith and Familia and $10M.

 

[mvp 78]

Verdugo is our FT RF'er.

 

With 3 LH OFers, there are more than enough AB’s to be split with Pillar (4th OF).