Bloom move your asssssss

[Slasher9]

Anything reactionary is stupid, but they certainly could make a reactionary payroll cut that hurt the team, like trading Bogaerts...

 

yankees fans aren't very smaht. i think the brain is affected by pinstripped glasses they are always wearing....

[jacksonianmarch]

yankees fans aren't very smaht. i think the brain is affected by pinstripped glasses they are always wearing....

 

Says the guy who cannot spell pinstriped

[Slasher9]

Says the guy who cannot spell pinstriped

 

my rose coloured glassses effect my brain two!

[Swiharts Ghost]

Kluber out of Whitesox division may give them a jolt of aggressive moves first should be Price and Benny .Just a guess.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

I like your ambition, SGhost... Vaughn does seem like a Bloom kinda guy; I just looked him up on b-ref and his listed position is first baseman and relief pitcher.

[Swiharts Ghost]

I like your ambition, SGhost... Vaughn does seem like a Bloom kinda guy; I just looked him up on b-ref and his listed position is first baseman and relief pitcher.

 

That is super funny .Yes Vaughn has me locked in on the Whitesox .Benny has been their target for years my friend .

[notin]

I like your ambition, SGhost... Vaughn does seem like a Bloom kinda guy; I just looked him up on b-ref and his listed position is first baseman and relief pitcher.

 

He was drafted last year. Dalbec was also a pitcher in college, but teams will make players like Vaughn and Dalbec settle in on one position or another. Vaughn did not pitch in the minors last year, so I think that issue is settled with him for now.

 

Some do change if it isn’t working out, like Trey Ball and Matt Bush did...

Edited December 15, 2019 by notin

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

He was drafted last year. Dalbec was also a pitcher in college, but teams will make players like Vaughn and Dalbec settle in on one position or another. Vaughn did not pitch in the minors last year, so I think that issue is settled with him for now.

 

Some do change if it isn’t working out, like Trey Ball and Matt Bush did...

 

But Bloom's Rays did promote McKay last year as a pitcher and DH. Wish Ball could morph into a Rick Ankiel for a few years...

[notin]

But Bloom's Rays did promote McKay last year as a pitcher and DH. Wish Ball could morph into a Rick Ankiel for a few years...

 

McKay is looking like the exception, and even he might settle in to one role or the other.

 

Rick Ankiel is a nice recall. Babe Ruth was obviously the most successful change, but history seems to have largely forgotten about Lefty O’Doul, who was a pretty weak pitcher who reinvented himself as a Hall of Fame caliber outfielder...

[a700hitter]

Bloom needs to pull his thumb out of his ass and start building a lock-down bullpen. Regardless of what the Yankees have done this off-season, the Red Sox are still deep and talented. The strategy should be the same as it was in 2018... have the pitching come out of the gate strong and carry the team until the weather and the offense heats up. If the pitching gets us off to a good start, the 2020 team will roll. Price, Sale and Eovaldi had plenty of down time in 2019 to heal up and start the season healthy. Together with ERod, they are a formidable starting staff. The decision last Spring Training that had the pitchers behind the league when the season started dug a fatally big hole for the team. Bloom needs to get some dominant BP arms and fill in a few other details. I am not seeing any evident strategy at play by Bloom. It's to get moving. Edited December 15, 2019 by a700hitter

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Good one on maybe the only Lefty known for his southpaw swing. There was also a bat-left, throws-right guy -- Bob Lemon -- who did it in reverse and became a Hall of Fame pitcher. Sox fans might recall he eventually managed the '78 Yankees after Billy Martin was fired for the 89th time (that was the year Boston tied NY for the division in Game 162, after trailing by 3 1/2 games in mid-Sept... only to fall one-run short in a supplementary round).

[Elktonnick]

Bloom needs to pull his thumb out of his ass and start building a lock-down bullpen. Regardless of what the Yankees have done this off-season, the Red Sox are still deep and talented. The strategy should be the same as it was in 2018... have the pitching come out of the gate strong and carry the team until the weather and the offense heats up. If the pitching gets us off to a good start, the 2020 team will roll. Price, Sale and Eovaldi had plenty of down time in 2019 to heal up and start the season healthy. Together with ERod, they are a formidable starting staff. The decision last Spring Training that had the pitchers behind the league when the season started dug a fatally big hole for the team. Bloom needs to get some dominant BP arms and fill in a few other details. I am not seeing any evident strategy at play by Bloom. It's to get moving.

 

It seems that Bloom is MIA. Has anyone filed a missing persons report with the Mass State Police or the Boston PD?

[jacksonianmarch]

Bloom needs to pull his thumb out of his ass and start building a lock-down bullpen. Regardless of what the Yankees have done this off-season, the Red Sox are still deep and talented. The strategy should be the same as it was in 2018... have the pitching come out of the gate strong and carry the team until the weather and the offense heats up. If the pitching gets us off to a good start, the 2020 team will roll. Price, Sale and Eovaldi had plenty of down time in 2019 to heal up and start the season healthy. Together with ERod, they are a formidable starting staff. The decision last Spring Training that had the pitchers behind the league when the season started dug a fatally big hole for the team. Bloom needs to get some dominant BP arms and fill in a few other details. I am not seeing any evident strategy at play by Bloom. It's to get moving.

 

Bloom has CLEARLY been given a directive to cut payroll. If he wasn't given that directive, then why the heck do you sign Perez and Peraza when other more effective players were there at a higher price. In doing so, none of the big names are coming to Boston. My bet is you see Workman closing games again with Barnes and Hembree ahead of him. DHern will probably be a starter in ST, but transition to the pen thereafter. Bloom is known for picking diamonds off the clearance rack. You'll probably see a guy like Rondon or Strop find their way to Boston on a 1 yr deal.

[notin]

Good one on maybe the only Lefty known for his southpaw swing. There was also a bat-left, throws-right guy -- Bob Lemon -- who did it in reverse and became a Hall of Fame pitcher. Sox fans might recall he eventually managed the '78 Yankees after Billy Martin was fired for the 89th time (that was the year Boston tied NY for the division in Game 162, after trailing by 3 1/2 games in mid-Sept... only to fall one-run short in a supplementary round).

 

 

Wasn’t Lemon the centerfielder for one of Feller’s no hitters? If I recall the story correctly - not always the case - it happened after Lemon converted to pitching...

[notin]

It seems that Bloom is MIA. Has anyone filed a missing persons report with the Mass State Police or the Boston PD?

 

He can’t add much until he subtracts a lot. I know Sox fans aren’t used to a payroll crunch, but that’s where the Sox are after the mess Dombrowski left behind....

[Larry Cook]

He can’t add much until he subtracts a lot. I know Sox fans aren’t used to a payroll crunch, but that’s where the Sox are after the mess Dombrowski left behind....

 

What a terrible way to start a new job, having to clean up after desperate Dave.

 

Desperate Dave’s mismanagement will plague us for years.

[a700hitter]

What a terrible way to start a new job, having to clean up after desperate Dave.

 

Desperate Dave’s mismanagement will plague us for years.

Terrible inheriting a team with a roster that has All Stars at virtually every position. I weep for Bloom.

[a700hitter]

He can’t add much until he subtracts a lot. I know Sox fans aren’t used to a payroll crunch, but that’s where the Sox are after the mess Dombrowski left behind....

Bullpens don't cost much and he doesn't really need much else. How much does a backup catcher cost?

[Swiharts Ghost]

Go get Austin Hedges from SD he’s on the block .We need another Catcher he’s a damn solid one .

[harmony]

Go get Austin Hedges from SD he’s on the block .We need another Catcher he’s a damn solid one .

Whom would you trade for three years of San Diego catcher Austin Hedges, who reportedly has a surplus value of $22.9 million with a projected 2020 salary of $2.9 million?

 

https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/teams/529/

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/10/mlb-arbitration-salaries-2020.html

Edited December 16, 2019 by harmony

[notin]

Bullpens don't cost much and he doesn't really need much else. How much does a backup catcher cost?

 

No rush on the BUC, since those guys are only like $4mill on their priciest days. Bloom will probably grab someone like Fedex for $1mill....

 

He does have to unload some money first. Cot's currently has the Red Sox about $28.5mill over the luxury tax threshold, and the team goal is apparently to get under.

 

It's very likely some of that offloading is Price and Bradley which means he has to replace a starting pitcher and a centerfielder. And if he can offload Price without sending any money with, then he has $14mill to fill those three spots. But he probably can't deal Price without sending some cash along.

 

If this is the case, the Sox may already have their bullpen since they can't afford to add anyone else to it...

Edited December 16, 2019 by notin

[Bellhorn04]

He can’t add much until he subtracts a lot. I know Sox fans aren’t used to a payroll crunch, but that’s where the Sox are after the mess Dombrowski left behind....

 

It's not really that bad of a mess from a strictly financial aspect.

 

The worst contract on the books is Price's which we all know the negative value of.

 

Bloom could clean things up in a jiffy if it was a less demanding fanbase he was dealing with.

[Bellhorn04]

What a terrible way to start a new job, having to clean up after desperate Dave.

 

Desperate Dave’s mismanagement will plague us for years.

 

Yeah, I'm sure Bloom would rather be Ben Cherington right now.

[moonslav59]

Whom would you trade for three years of San Diego catcher Austin Hedges, who reportedly has a surplus value of $22.9 million with a projected 2020 salary of $2.9 million?

 

https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/teams/529/

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/10/mlb-arbitration-salaries-2020.html

 

The trade simulator accepted this trade:

 

Price, Vaz and $3M a year x 3 yrs

 

for

 

Myers, Hedges, Wingenter & Garcia

[mvp 78]

Bloom has CLEARLY been given a directive to cut payroll. If he wasn't given that directive, then why the heck do you sign Perez and Peraza when other more effective players were there at a higher price. In doing so, none of the big names are coming to Boston. My bet is you see Workman closing games again with Barnes and Hembree ahead of him. DHern will probably be a starter in ST, but transition to the pen thereafter. Bloom is known for picking diamonds off the clearance rack. You'll probably see a guy like Rondon or Strop find their way to Boston on a 1 yr deal.

 

Agreed. Cutting payroll seems top priority this offseason. Be mad at Henry, not Bloom for inaction.

[mvp 78]

The trade simulator accepted this trade:

 

Price, Vaz and $3M a year x 3 yrs

 

for

 

Myers, Hedges, Wingenter & Garcia

 

Good to know that SD GM's sole trade qualifier is the trade simulator

[moonslav59]

Good to know that SD GM's sole trade qualifier is the trade simulator

 

LOL.

 

I'm pretty sure this trade will never happen. I was just showing harmony a view.

[moonslav59]

Agreed. Cutting payroll seems top priority this offseason. Be mad at Henry, not Bloom for inaction.

 

I'll never be "mad at Henry."

 

If he cuts payroll to $150M, I would not get upset.

 

I thought I was going to die never seeing a Sox championship.

[notin]

The trade simulator accepted this trade:

 

Price, Vaz and $3M a year x 3 yrs

 

for

 

Myers, Hedges, Wingenter & Garcia

 

That the Padres are so desperate to unload Myers (fifth outfielder on the depth chart) this offseason largely due to the $17mill increase in his salary, and Price is still in Boston, tells me Bloom has very little interest in Myers, if any at all. Even we were able to spot that match; there is no way Bloom missed it. And in reality, ithis deal is a complete no-brainer for the Padres. I am all but 100% positive Preller would do this deal. I think the big "stumbling block" is Bloom wants nothing to do with Myers. I don't really blame him here. Really, if Bloom included $60mill to send Price elsewhere, got nothing in return, and then spent $5mill on a scrap heap outfielder or 1B, it would be cheaper for the Red Sox. Although not as effective on the luxury tax, where he would only save $7mill.

 

At this point, the only way any sort of Price-Myers deal happens is very late in the offseason when both teams realize that no one else is going to take those players off their hands.

[notin]

Good to know that SD GM's sole trade qualifier is the trade simulator

 

Whether or not Preller uses it doesn't change how much sense that deal makes for SD. But when we use the simulator, at least the deals are a lot more fair and realistic than the non-simulator proposals (like Andy Vaughn for Price). That's like proposing Tristan Casas for Mike Leake. ("Hey it works out!! Boston needs a starting pitcher!! And the Dbacks need a 1B!! Make it happen, Hazen!")