2018-2019 Yankee rumors thread

[notin]

The players will not give anyone a ridiculous discount, and Cashman’s success has not been in getting undervalued FA’s but in obtaining players in trades for surprisingly low return and while getting the other teams to eat substantial salary.

 

Exactly my point.

 

If the Yankees are not the highest bidder, they will not be the winning bidder.

 

Cashman has made grat moves and bad moves, which is par for the course for any GM who actually makes moves. That he has lasted do long in NY through multiple Stenbrenners is proof of how well he does his job. But I was never commenting about him, despite the hyperbole...

[Kimmi]

Cashman has excelled in trading away prospects of value who don’t reach their potential and keeping ones that do. His FA signings won us a title in 2009, but other than that, the FA route has been hit or miss at best

 

Cashman is a very good GM, especially since George passed away.

 

He's no Theo, but he's very good. Honestly, I think he took a page out of Theo's book.

[Bellhorn04]

Exactly my point.

 

If the Yankees are not the highest bidder, they will not be the winning bidder.

 

Unless maybe they go the bells and whistles route and give him a heavily front-loaded deal with an attractive opt out...

[notin]

Unless maybe they go the bells and whistles route and give him a heavily front-loaded deal with an attractive opt out...

 

 

There is a certain value in the opt out that shouldn’t be ignored.

 

Of course, is there any reason Chicago and Philadelphia would be adverse to putting in an opt out? This feature is talked about on this board like it’s exclusive to the Yankees. Really it’s a good idea for any team to use one in most high profile mega-contracts...

[moonslav59]

Tulo to sign with the Yanks for the minimum.

[jacksonianmarch]

Meh. Can’t hurt I guess, but my assumption is he will be cut by mid season

[Meh]

Britton 3 years with a vesting option would be my limit, no to 4 years. If the Red Sox or Phillies want him for that then see ya. I honestly don't think our bullpen is that bad right now, but I feel Dellin will have an amazing free agent contract year and Kahlne will bounce back.

[Meh]

Andujar, Gray, and Holder for Gore, Paddack, Quantrill, Edwards, and IFA bonus cash.

 

Sign Machado 8/200

 

 

Minor league free agents

Nick Hudley

Doug Fister or Chris Tillman

 

Rotation

Severino/Paxton/Tanaka/Happ/CC

 

C: Sanchez

1B: Bird/Voit

2B: Torres

SS: Tulo

3B: Manny

RF: Judge

CF: Hicks

LF: Gardner/Stanton

DH: Stanton

 

Bench: DJ, Romine, Bird/Voit, and Ellsbury I guess.

 

Bullpen

Chapman - Closer

Dellin - RH set up

Britton - LH set up

Ottavino - 7th inning

Green - 7th inning

Kahnle

German or Cessa

[jacksonianmarch]

Why blow up the team?

[Meh]

Why blow up the team?

 

Tulo, DJ, Ottavino, and Britton are already on the team.... We traded for Paxton months ago too.

[jacksonianmarch]

We aren’t getting Machado. I think Cashman had the option to bolster the pen or add Machado and he chose the pen. We just dropped $21 mil AAV on two relievers. I doubt we drop $25 mil AAV on Manny

[Carpin]

Gray to the Reds??

[jacksonianmarch]

Yankees may deal Gray to the Reds for two prospects and their 1st round supplemental pick (competitive balance).

 

Yankees are also in on Arenado and this may be one major reason why they aren’t in on Machado

[Carpin]

I imagine they'd trade him for Andujar and something else, the only way I'm on board is if it comes with an extension

[jacksonianmarch]

No way a year of him is worth 5+ of Andujar. If we deal them Andujar, we better get something else in return.

[notin]

Yankees may deal Gray to the Reds for two prospects and their 1st round supplemental pick (competitive balance).

 

Yankees are also in on Arenado and this may be one major reason why they aren’t in on Machado

 

River Ave Blues seems to think the "2 prospects and a pick" is unlikely, although they specifically name Tyler Stephenson and Shed Long (#6 and #7 in the Reds system) as the prospects. But Tucker Barnhart did issue a cryptic tweet that many have interpreted to mean he is going to the Yankees.

 

If the Yankees got Barnhart for Gray, that's a pretty good return, and if it moves Sanchez to 1b, that's probably for the best for that team as well...

[notin]

No way a year of him is worth 5+ of Andujar. If we deal them Andujar, we better get something else in return.

 

Call to the Pen calls that an underpay, given what Arizona got for one year of Goldschmidt.

 

For a Gold Glove (6 in 6 seasons!!!) MVP-caliber player, you think Andujar and his -25 UZR/150 is not enough? Control is a factor, but the guy is a 1B/DH that needs to happen now, and if you're getting Barnhart, then those roles are filled.

 

If I suggested the Sox could get one year of Dellin Betances for 6 years of Michael Chavis, you'd call that deal insane. Yet it's actually more fair than Andujar for Arenado, let alone Andujar for Arenado plus.

 

Not every team is run by Derek Jeter...

Edited January 19, 2019 by notin

[notin]

River Ave Blues seems to think the "2 prospects and a pick" is unlikely, although they specifically name Tyler Stephenson and Shed Long (#6 and #7 in the Reds system) as the prospects. But Tucker Barnhart did issue a cryptic tweet that many have interpreted to mean he is going to the Yankees.

 

If the Yankees got Barnhart for Gray, that's a pretty good return, and if it moves Sanchez to 1b, that's probably for the best for that team as well...

 

 

And now MLBTR is reporting it might actually be Stephenson, Long and a pick. I guess the folks at River Ave Blues aren’t as plugged in as I hoped and who knows what Tucker Barnhart is doing. He might be crazy for all I know...

Edited January 19, 2019 by notin

[OH FOY]

Wow, that a heck of a haul, plus a Draft pick? And they want Gray in a hitters park, for 1 year. That's why the Reds are not a good organization. 2 Top 10 Prospects. Lesson to learn here, deal with dumb organizations. Edited January 19, 2019 by OH FOY!

[notin]

Wow, that a heck of a haul, plus a Draft pick? And they want Gray in a hitters park, for 1 year. That's why the Reds are not a good organization. 2 Top 10 Prospects. Lesson to learn here, deal with dumb organizations.

 

 

Well, Rotoworld is refuting it’s both Stephenson and Long, but believes one to be involved. Both sites often use the same sources, so it’s tough to tell exactly what’s happening...

[jacksonianmarch]

I told everyone that the Yanks would get more than most people thought for Gray. He was dynamite outside NY and Boston. He is going to go to Cincy or SF or SD and he will be a top 10 pitcher in that league. He doesn’t have the stones for NY

[notin]

I told everyone that the Yanks would get more than most people thought for Gray. He was dynamite outside NY and Boston. He is going to go to Cincy or SF or SD and he will be a top 10 pitcher in that league. He doesn’t have the stones for NY

 

 

I’m taking the under on Sonny Gray being one of the ten best pitchers in the National League.

 

And you haven’t gotten more for him yet. Let’s see what the return actually is...

[notin]

I told everyone that the Yanks would get more than most people thought for Gray. He was dynamite outside NY and Boston. He is going to go to Cincy or SF or SD and he will be a top 10 pitcher in that league. He doesn’t have the stones for NY

 

Might be worth pointing out Sonny Gray was a tad under "dynamite" on the road. It would seem he pitched 26 of his 71 road innings in Baltimore and KC, and he did very well in those two parks. In the other parks, his ERA was a less than stellar 4.60. That's not a bad road ERA; plenty of pitchers having good seasons have road ERA's over 4.00. But it's really not dynamite. And last year, the only teams he pitched against on the road and kept his ERA under 3.00 were KC, Baltimore and Chicago. He got lit up in not only Boston, but also Tampa and Minnesota.

 

The Marlins might give up a ton for him, since Jeter (not so) secretly still works for the Yankees. But I wouldn't hold out for a good return from anyone else. Gray is nothing special, unless his opponent is actively tanking.

 

 

One of the ten best pitchers in the NL? No chance. He might not crack the top 30...

Edited January 20, 2019 by notin

[jacksonianmarch]

Shed Long is a legit prospect. And the #36 pick in the draft is a nice return too. I’m holding out for what the third player is

[Station 13]

Who the f*** wants Sonny Gray that bad to give prospects for a rental coming off an abysmal year? Are they looking to dupe a contender mid season by parting with Gray?

[moonslav59]

Watch Gray do better than CC.

[jacksonianmarch]

He’s going to. He’ll be in Cincy on a contract year. No pressure. He’ll be great

[jacksonianmarch]

Shed Long is the #6-#8 prospect (based on publication) in a loaded Cincy system (from #6-#8 in baseball). He slashed .261/.353/.412 as a 22 yr old in AA last yr with 12HR and 19SB as a 2B. He's a lefty hitter who has power and speed plus a solid enough hit tool to eventually project to hit for a decent average. The biggest question is his defense. He is a converted catcher who has tremendous range, a fringe average arm and below average hands. His offensive game plays very well for the position, but if he has to move to the OF, that may not fly enough to profile as a starter. He will likely start the season in AAA. If his defense improves, he may push the Yanks to use him in an otherwise loaded middle infield. If not, he may push his way into the OF mix due to his power and speed combo

[jacksonianmarch]

And the #36 pick in the draft was worth $1.967 mil last year, so that should rise to around $2mil. With the 5% overage, we should see an additional $2.1 mil in bonus pool to go along with the #36 pick in the draft

[moonslav59]

He’s going to. He’ll be in Cincy on a contract year. No pressure. He’ll be great

 

I'm not sure it's that simple. His sample size under the spotlight was rather small, but you may be right.

 

My projection was based more on my feeling that CC has been running on fumes for too long. Don't get me wrong, he's done very well as he's aged, but there comes a time when over the hill means it's time for serious decline.