2018-2019 Yankee rumors thread

[notin]

Actually Tim Beckham would make a ton of sense for the Yankees.

 

The Murphy chatter was based on his ability to slide over to first base when (not if) Bird goes on the DL and Voit shows NYC why he isn’t a full time starter...

[jacksonianmarch]

Beckham makes no sense in NY. The guy cannot hit. The guy cannot field. He also doesn’t do anything when it comes to our RH predominance

[jacksonianmarch]

Yanks are apparently enamored with Machado, but are unwilling to go 10 years and $30 mil.

[notin]

Beckham makes no sense in NY. The guy cannot hit. The guy cannot field. He also doesn’t do anything when it comes to our RH predominance

 

 

And yet he was worth 3.4 fWAR as recently as 2017. I guess he must be a spectacular baserunner...

[notin]

Yanks are apparently enamored with Machado, but are unwilling to go 10 years and $30 mil.

 

Most teams find the biggest obstacle with Machado to be the expectations of the terms of the contract...

[Bellhorn04]

Yanks are apparently enamored with Machado, but are unwilling to go 10 years and $30 mil.

 

That just doesn't sound right somehow. This was supposed to be the offseason of the megadeal, and the Yanks reset their tax rate for it.

 

I'll be shocked if the Yanks don't sign one of Machado or Harper.

[Station 13]

So what's the outcome of that Johnny Hustle visiting?

[notin]

That just doesn't sound right somehow. This was supposed to be the offseason of the megadeal, and the Yanks reset their tax rate for it.

 

I'll be shocked if the Yanks don't sign one of Machado or Harper.

 

They’re enamored. Just not to the point of signing him.

 

It sounds like they think they’re in the driver’s seat and can steer the overall value of the deal down. But the high anticipated overall value is what is keeping most teams out, so if they drive it down too far, they risk losing their lead position.

 

And “too far” might not be as far as they think, with Chicago (who really should be taken seriously) and Philadelphia looming...

[moonslav59]

That just doesn't sound right somehow. This was supposed to be the offseason of the megadeal, and the Yanks reset their tax rate for it.

 

I'll be shocked if the Yanks don't sign one of Machado or Harper.

 

I feel the same, and the Yanks are too deep to try a plan B of signing 2-4 mid range free agents, instead.

 

Is signing Kikuchi, Britton and Moose really an option?

[dgalehouse]

Not too many guys prefer Philly or Chicago over New York or L.A. Would have to be a big money differential to change that.

[Bellhorn04]

Not too many guys prefer Philly or Chicago over New York or L.A. Would have to be a big money differential to change that.

 

Remember Cliff Lee? The Yanks were pretty surprised he chose Philly over them.

[dgalehouse]

Remember Cliff Lee? The Yanks were pretty surprised he chose Philly over them.

 

Yeah. It does happen. But New York and L.A. possess an allure for the star athletes that they find hard to resist. And they have the dough as well.

[moonslav59]

Yeah. It does happen. But New York and L.A. possess an allure for the star athletes that they find hard to resist. And they have the dough as well.

 

Plus, they usually get more endorsement money, but taxes may be higher than other choices.

[notin]

Not too many guys prefer Philly or Chicago over New York or L.A. Would have to be a big money differential to change that.

 

Machado has spent his entire career in Baltimore. Chicago and Philly are both mega-markets compared to that.

 

Not to mention, he probably owns a house and Baltimore is probably within commuting distance from his house. Know what else might be within commuting distance from that house? Philadelphia.

 

And Chicago didn’t take on Yonder Alonso’s entire contract because of his baseball skills. Not when Justin Bour was practically free. There is a definite plan to exploit that connection. Sure the money will need to be there first. But Yonder is a good bet for a tie breaker...

[notin]

Plus, they usually get more endorsement money, but taxes may be higher than other choices.

 

 

LA has far more allure than NY for athletes looking at acting as a post-playing career.

 

But Philly often a much, much lower cost of living advantage....

[notin]

I feel the same, and the Yanks are too deep to try a plan B of signing 2-4 mid range free agents, instead.

 

Is signing Kikuchi, Britton and Moose really an option?

 

 

I would imagine if the Yankees shockingly miss out on both Machado and Harper, Plan B would be something like Keuchel, Pollock and Brian Dozier...

[jacksonianmarch]

There is no real plan B. As constituted, the Yankee lineup needs to real additions. With the injury to Didi, it does open things up a bit for a middle infield addition. But when Didi returns, we would need someone with the versatility to cover elsewhere. There is a reason Marwin Gonzalez hasn't signed yet. He was lights out in the second half of the season and he can play anywhere but C and P. He also is a switch hitter, which is very important for this RH heavy lineup

[notin]

I find some irony in ripping Tim Beckham for not being a good fielder (despite his league average or better metrics) and then thinking Marwin Gonzalez is a good solution...

[jacksonianmarch]

Beckham couldn't hit in 2018. Beckham couldn't field at all in 2018. Beckham has a single year of solid performance. Beckham is right handed. He doesn't fit at all

[notin]

Beckham couldn't hit in 2018. Beckham couldn't field at all in 2018. Beckham has a single year of solid performance. Beckham is right handed. He doesn't fit at all

 

I do imagine the Yankees are a bit reluctant to use theirshort term middle infielder to balance out their lineup. They’ll probably go for best available within their budget. And if they sign Harper instead of Machado, Beckham might be that guy...

[jacksonianmarch]

Big rumor today is the Yankees are still willing to deal Andujar. We have filled our rotation. We are likely the top dog for Machado. I get the idea of using Andujar for some pitching, but we already have the pitching. This makes me think the Yanks are unsure if Andujar can get better defensively

[moonslav59]

Big rumor today is the Yankees are still willing to deal Andujar. We have filled our rotation. We are likely the top dog for Machado. I get the idea of using Andujar for some pitching, but we already have the pitching. This makes me think the Yanks are unsure if Andujar can get better defensively

 

Put him at 1B and trade Voit for a decent prospect.

[notin]

Put him at 1B and trade Voit for a decent prospect.

 

 

They might struggle to get a decent prospect for Voit, whose 27 and never did anything prior to his hit month in NY

[moonslav59]

They might struggle to get a decent prospect for Voit, whose 27 and never did anything prior to his hit month in NY

 

Then just trade him to clear a roster spot and gte a less than decent prospect.

 

Andujar at 1B makes more sense than trading him to make room for Machado.

 

I'll be thrilled, if the Yankees get MM. He's a cancer.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

I'm not sure why so many players want to rush off to play for the Yankees. No matter how great you are, you will always be behind Ruth, Gehrig, Dimaggio, and Mantle. As a hired gun, you will never be more loved than farm products Jeter, Rivera, or Judge. The Yankees have had so many legendary players over the years, I would rather sign with a team that has fewer legends.

 

I'm trying to think of the Phillies legendary players. Schmidt and Carlton come to mind. To be sure, the list isn't as loaded as the Yankees list.

Edited December 21, 2018 by Fan_since_Boggs

[moonslav59]

I'm not sure why so many players want to rush off to play for the Yankees. No matter how great you are, you will always be behind Ruth, Gehrig, Dimaggio, and Mantle. As a hired gun, you will never be more loved than farm products Jeter, Rivera, or Judge. The Yankees have had so many legendary players over the years, I would rather sign with a team that has fewer legends.

 

I'm trying to think of the Phillies legendary players. Schmidt and Carlton come to mind. To be sure, the list isn't as loaded as the Yankees list.

 

2 reasons:

 

1. Money

 

2. Winning

[notin]

Big rumor today is the Yankees are still willing to deal Andujar. We have filled our rotation. We are likely the top dog for Machado. I get the idea of using Andujar for some pitching, but we already have the pitching. This makes me think the Yanks are unsure if Andujar can get better defensively

 

 

Per MLBTR, both the Phillies and the White Sox are willing to outbid the Yankees.

 

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/12/manny-machado-rumors-phillies-meeting-yankees-white-sox.html

[dgalehouse]

We all know that Machado has some baggage. However, I think the negative aspects are being just a wee bit overblown. Whoever signs him will immediately become a better team.

[moonslav59]

We all know that Machado has some baggage. However, I think the negative aspects are being just a wee bit overblown. Whoever signs him will immediately become a better team.

 

His contract will strangle a team.

 

Yes, he's good.

 

I don't think he will have the impact many think he will.

 

Cancer spreads quickly and can be lethal.

[dgalehouse]

His contract will strangle a team.

 

Yes, he's good.

 

I don't think he will have the impact many think he will.

 

Cancer spreads quickly and can be lethal.

 

Calling him a cancer helps my argument that the negative aspects are being overblown. While he is no Mookie Betts or Mike Trout, he is one of the best in the game . I doubt that any contract is going to strangle the Yankees .

Edited December 21, 2018 by dgalehouse