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Wheeler would be a more reasonable pitcher to include in the deal. You just know this deal will be ugly for the Mets no matter what happens. The Mets aren't moving forward. In the best scenario, the Mets move sideways; and in the worst scenario (the Cano trade), the Mets move backwards.
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If I'm getting this right, Cashman has said the Yanks won't go to 300 million on Machado and are basically out on Harper.

 

Can't trust the guy, of course, but he does like to talk, doesn't he?

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Here's the thing about Cashman, never believe what he says in the offseason or at the deadline. He has effectively said so in the past. When there are negotiations, he is as stone cold as they come. I know he is deflecting Harper, but it wouldn't surprise me if he swung back and got him. Nothing surprises me with him.

 

The thing I do want to point out, though, is when there is smoke about Yankee moves not from Cashman, usually the deals are already done or close to it. This Mets thing is intriguing, because they have three guys who are clear upgrades in DeGrom, Wheeler and Thor. Wheeler comes with the least amount of control.

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Some rumblings about Realmuto headed to the Mets, Thor to the Yankees, in some type of three team deal.

 

Yankees get Thor

Mets get Realmuto and Gray

Marlins get Florial, Loaisiga, Abreu, and Whitlock?

 

There are some variations floating around:

Yankees get Thor

Mets get Realmuto and Frazier

Marlins get Florial, Abreu and Don Smith

 

Some others said the Yankees might take on Castro for some salary relief for the Marlins, let's see what happens

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And then the hammer drops. Yankees are willing to move Andujar. His inclusion would entail two things. One, I think this brings back Castro on a salary dump to man 2B while Torres moves to SS until Didi is ready. Second, this paves the way for Machado to come to NY
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Then, in this scenario, would be Andujar instead of Florial???, including both will be huge

 

Mets seem to love our bullpen arms.

 

Yankees get Thor and Castro

Mets get Realmuto and Holder/Kahnle

Marlins get Andujar

 

sign Machado.

 

Look into Marcus Storman

 

Resign Robertson

 

Deal off Sonny Gray to the best offer

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Mets seem to love our bullpen arms.

 

Yankees get Thor and Castro

Mets get Realmuto and Holder/Kahnle

Marlins get Andujar

 

sign Machado.

 

Look into Marcus Storman

 

Resign Robertson

 

Deal off Sonny Gray to the best offer

 

I like it, don't know if that offer will get it done

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I like it, don't know if that offer will get it done

 

Yeah I think the marlins get enough, i think the mets might want another arm in that deal. I'd be willing to give Adams in it as well

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Yeah I think the marlins get enough, i think the mets might want another arm in that deal. I'd be willing to give Adams in it as well

 

I do doubt the Marlins deal Realmuto and one year of Castro for Andujar and nothing else. They’ve been asking for much more from other teams, including wanting Soto and Robles from Washington. If merely taking Castro was enough to get them to drop their price, wouldn’t Realmuto and Castro be Nationals by now?

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You deal Andujar and take on Castro's contract, you get Thor and pitching nothing else in

 

So the Mets are going to trade 3 years of Syndergaard for 2 years of Realmuto? What do you think the logic is here? To get to the bottom faster? If they get Realmuto, they think they’re good enough to win in that timeframe and that doesn’t happen if they deal Thor.

 

The article on MLBTR actually says the Yankees have interest in other Mets’ pitchers as well. Syndergaard might not be the target here. The Yankees might be looking at Wheeler. (I’m sure they already asked about deGrom.)

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So the Mets are going to trade 3 years of Syndergaard for 2 years of Realmuto? What do you think the logic is here? To get to the bottom faster? If they get Realmuto, they think they’re good enough to win in that timeframe and that doesn’t happen if they deal Thor.

 

The article on MLBTR actually says the Yankees have interest in other Mets’ pitchers as well. Syndergaard might not be the target here. The Yankees might be looking at Wheeler. (I’m sure they already asked about deGrom.)

 

There's no way this deal involves Syndergaard, unless some other major pieces are added.

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There's no way this deal involves Syndergaard, unless some other major pieces are added.

 

Especially if they think it should be Andujar straight up for Syndergaard and Castro. Castro is good enough that the Marlins can deal him in another trade. Now if the Yankees took back Wei-Yin Chen, maybe. Prado? Maybe but less likely. But Castro? A lot less appealing.

 

Of course that assumes the Marlins are so desperate to unload Chen or Prado they’d compromise a trade of their best player to do so. But given jow many Realmuto rumors there have been, why would they?

 

Of course none of that stops the real problem of the Mets getting completely sodomized in that deal...

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there are several rumors floating around, another said that the yankees might get Realmuto and have him split time with Sanchez, which makes no sense, if they get Realmuto without giving up Sanchez is because they are planning to send one of them to another team. a lot of BS in the rumors right now
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there are several rumors floating around, another said that the yankees might get Realmuto and have him split time with Sanchez, which makes no sense, if they get Realmuto without giving up Sanchez is because they are planning to send one of them to another team. a lot of BS in the rumors right now

 

Or move Sanchez to 1b/DH. They aren’t really going to count on a repeat performance from Luke Voit, are they?

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Or move Sanchez to 1b/DH. They aren’t really going to count on a repeat performance from Luke Voit, are they?

 

Probably not.

 

It would be nice to add Realmuto while keeping Sanchez bat in the lineup, but SP is the Yankees main priority

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By the way, some people say the Yankees are involved just to mess with the Mets, driving the price up for them

 

Hard to tell the truth in all the rumors

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If we get Syndergaard, then our rotation will be the best in baseball.

 

But you just said that Thor is a health risk and he has never pitched more than 180 innings. You also said to be worth the price he would have to make 30 starts.

 

I am now confused by your statements.

 

No, the Yankees will not have the best rotation in baseball.

 

It would be improved, though.

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But you just said that Thor is a health risk and he has never pitched more than 180 innings. You also said to be worth the price he would have to make 30 starts.

 

I am now confused by your statements.

 

No, the Yankees will not have the best rotation in baseball.

 

It would be improved, though.

 

Thor is only a health risk for OTHER teams. Got it now?

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I just read on twitter (not sure how good he is)

 

 

Verified account

 

@SolomonSyed

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Seems the #Mets are getting the ultimatum from the #Marlins- send Thor to the #Yankees or we’ll send Realmuto to one of your other rivals. Not MIA’s job to do NYM any favors here.

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I just read on twitter (not sure how good he is)

 

 

Verified account

 

@SolomonSyed

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Seems the #Mets are getting the ultimatum from the #Marlins- send Thor to the #Yankees or we’ll send Realmuto to one of your other rivals. Not MIA’s job to do NYM any favors here.

 

The important thing we all learned from that tweet is Jeter is still wearing pinstripes...

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i just read on twitter (not sure how good he is)

 

 

verified account

 

@solomonsyed

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seems the #mets are getting the ultimatum from the #marlins- send thor to the #yankees or we’ll send realmuto to one of your other rivals. Not mia’s job to do nym any favors here.

 

yeah jeet yeah

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But you just said that Thor is a health risk and he has never pitched more than 180 innings. You also said to be worth the price he would have to make 30 starts.

 

I am now confused by your statements.

 

No, the Yankees will not have the best rotation in baseball.

 

It would be improved, though.

 

Forgot to add “barring injury”

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Well, it looks like the rotation is set. We have a 1-5. We have a 6-8 (German, Cessa, Loaisiga) that all have big league experience and one of them is a top 100 prospect. We have a guy coming back at mid season who posted a 3WAR rookie season and is coming off a surgery most players rebound from and sometimes come back throwing harder. I doubt we make any further additions beside a few washed up former starters or AAAA guys. We do still need to work on the MIF issue. With Didi set to be out at least into May, we are likely looking at a good utility player capable of playing 2b, SS and 1B even if we nab Machado. My guess is we will be in on Marwin and Josh Harrison. I know there’s been chatter about Daniel Murphy and the Yanks, but Murphy had microfracture surgery in his knee and when he came back, he had the lateral mobility of a first basemen. We don’t need another guy who can only play 1b or play a horrid middle infield. The next few weeks will be interesting. I doubt the trade market helps us much as there aren’t many SS or 2Bs out there that are upgrades via trade since Segura is now in Philly.

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