2018-2019 Yankee rumors thread

[notin]

It would have made sense for ellsbury as he’s from the Pacific NW. But the Mets have decided to just be the dumbest franchise in sports and throw two first round picks and a high velocity kid in Bautista to Seattle. Yes, they’re dumping Swarzak and Bruce, but taking on the Cano contract with Diaz is a lot to take on when you’re giving up big talent

 

Well with Seattle reportedly kicking in $60mill and taking two bad contracts, the Mets essentially get Cano for 5 years for only $26mill. THAT is why they gave up the prospects.

 

And they get Diaz as well. If they do decide to recoup the prospects and rebuild, they could flip Diaz and get better ones back...

[jacksonianmarch]

This doesn’t make sense at all, then. What a strange deal. The Mariners insist on dumping Cano with Diaz. They then take on two s*** contracts and include half of the money for Cano while also moving Diaz and all they get are three prospects? This makes no sense at all. They can deal Diaz for a king’s ransom on his own and if the Mariners advertised a willingness to eat half of Cano’s remaining contract and eat a bad contract, teams would be willing to jump at that. Strange indeed. The money involved makes this deal tilt towards the Mutts

[moonslav59]

This doesn’t make sense at all, then. What a strange deal. The Mariners insist on dumping Cano with Diaz. They then take on two s*** contracts and include half of the money for Cano while also moving Diaz and all they get are three prospects? This makes no sense at all. They can deal Diaz for a king’s ransom on his own and if the Mariners advertised a willingness to eat half of Cano’s remaining contract and eat a bad contract, teams would be willing to jump at that. Strange indeed. The money involved makes this deal tilt towards the Mutts

 

I know. If the reason to make the deal is to dump money, why pay most of it?

[jacksonianmarch]

The only angle I can see here is that the Mariners think they can rehab Bruce or Swarzak and can turn them into something.

[moonslav59]

The only angle I can see here is that the Mariners think they can rehab Bruce or Swarzak and can turn them into something.

 

How much money will they end up saving?

 

This looks like another example of the one of the biggest contracts in history being a flop.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

I have the Mariners kicking in 54 million: 20 million in cash, plus 34 million for Bruce and Swarzak's contracts. 36 year old Cano is owed 120 million over the next 5 years. Thus, the Mets will pay Cano 66 million over 5 years or around 13 million each year.

 

You might as well sign a closer for less money and keep the prospects. You can sign David Robertson for considerably less than 66 million.

Edited December 3, 2018 by Fan_since_Boggs

[Carpin]

Corbin to the Nats 6/140 a massive overpay in my opinion

 

I'm glad the Yankees didn't meet his asking price, 5/100 (Yankees offer) was good enough

[Station 13]

Corbin to the Nats 6/140 a massive overpay in my opinion

 

I'm glad the Yankees didn't meet his asking price, 5/100 (Yankees offer) was good enough

 

So the Yankees were never serious in getting him.

[jacksonianmarch]

6 and $140 mil is an awful big investment for a guy coming off a singular career year. Wow

[bkzwhitestrican]

Kikuchi time!

[jacksonianmarch]

I'd be totally on board with Kickuchi. I am also on board with Happ. Eovaldi is a wild care for me and with Boston and Houston involved, the bidding may get uncomfortably high for a guy with his kind of risk.

[jacksonianmarch]

The Yanks have essentially come out against Eovaldi for 4 or more years. I truly wonder if we fill that final spot in the rotation with Happ or if we make another deal. I'd be fine with dabbling on Kikuchi as well. We just need to have one more. Relying on CC for more than 5th starter duty is not ideal in the least

[moonslav59]

Kikuchi seems like the best fit for what you need and want, budget-wise.

 

If he was a righty, I'd be suggesting we sign him.

[jacksonianmarch]

We need left handed balance. I know Sabathia is there and will likely cede his role to JMont, but the Yanks have always had success with left handed starters, especially in our park. Might as well see if this kid can do it

[moonslav59]

We need left handed balance. I know Sabathia is there and will likely cede his role to JMont, but the Yanks have always had success with left handed starters, especially in our park. Might as well see if this kid can do it

 

He's a gamble, but so is any signing. He can give affordable long term control- something almost any team wants. If he sucks, it won't be a big budget issue, except for the years.

[Carpin]

So the Yankees were never serious in getting him.

 

It was a big gamble, coming from the NL West to the toughest division in the league, several pitchers have failed on that change.

 

For me it was a serious offer, just not in his expected rank

[bkzwhitestrican]

Corbin is more of a high end #2 SP but got paid like a bonafide ace. So in that sense I'm glad the Yankees did pay up for him. BUT it's not my money being spent and he would have definitely improved the team, so in that sense I'm a bit disappointed they didn't overpay to get him.

[Meh]

Someone was saying Haap would get 2/28 if thats the case sign him tomorrow lol./ I actually really like him and what he brought to the table. We got to remember we have Monty hopefully coming back in July too.

[Carpin]

If somebody wanted Goldschmidt, he's on the way to St Louis

[Station 13]

It was a big gamble, coming from the NL West to the toughest division in the league, several pitchers have failed on that change.

 

For me it was a serious offer, just not in his expected rank

 

$40M short. I'm surprise how loudly the Yankees intently broadcast it they were in a FA. I guess that's just for show.

[Carpin]

$40M short. I'm surprise how loudly the Yankees intently broadcast it they were in a FA. I guess that's just for show.

 

Probably it was just for show.

 

But, imagine the RedSox were after this guy, would you match the Nats offer?

[jacksonianmarch]

I think the prediction going in was 6 yrs $125 mil. The Yanks were right at the prediction in terms of AAV, just not in the years. The Nats surpassed the prediction by another $15 mil. Who knows if the Nats would have gone higher. I liked Corbin a whole lot, but I also like that the Yanks weren't suckered into a longer term deal than they thought was worth it on a player who really has a single year of dominance at the end of an up and down career. The Nats paid him like he is a Scherzer yet he's had one year of ace level production. Now, if Corbin was the only option, then you gotta go where the market dictates. But with the trade market open, with Paxton in the fold and with there still being some good left handed options available, passing was a reasonable thing

[Station 13]

Probably it was just for show.

 

But, imagine the RedSox were after this guy, would you match the Nats offer?

He's not a can't miss guy so I wouldn't make a matching or top offer.

 

Also hearing now the Yankees came in at $17M per year in their discussion and never formerly made an offer.

[jacksonianmarch]

Now the focus is shifting to Happ. And while Happ is certainly not a top notch, ace level pitcher, he has been really good and consistent the last few seasons. The bugaboo is his age at 36, but he has stayed relatively healthy and while he's been around awhile, he doesn't have the innings totals you'd expect for someone who has been in the league for as long as he has. He isn't a 7IP 1ER kind of pitcher, but he is a 5-6IP 0-2ER pitcher and he has really gotten good at being less efficient and more effective, if that makes any sense. His K rates have risen and his walk rates have dropped, but he has for the most part tried to stay away from contact. His HR rate last year really bloated what was an excellent season. At his age, we might only see a 2 yr guarantee and likely not for more than what Eovaldi signed for. His left handedness really plays well in YS too and he'd slot in as our #4 starter. After missing out on Corbin and Eovaldi, this is the next best option as the AAV might be a bit painful, the years wont be and if father time catches up to him, we can cut him loose before we need to start allocating money to our kids.

 

The one thing we will need to tighten up if Happ is re-signed is the pen. Happ and CC in the rotation will give us a 4-5 of guys who max out at 6IP. We will need to replace Robertson with someone of reliability so we can effectively bridge 2 games out of every 5 with guys incapable of seeing the 7th inning and if they flop, likely unable to get past the 5th. I wonder if the idea was to get Paxton and sure up the top of the rotation then see if we could get Corbin and really tighten it up. If unsuccessful, go back to what worked and flesh out the pen to cover for the lack of depth. There is still chatter that Ottavino ends up in NY, which is a name I would certainly gravitate towards, but if I am gonna get an early 30s reliever for a 2 or 3 year deal, I'd try and re-up KRob first as he has had success here.

[Carpin]

I like Happ for 2 yrs, no longer than that, word is that he's looking a 4 years deal in the 50 millions range, too much for a 36 yrs old pitcher

[jacksonianmarch]

I’d be fine with a vesting option based on IP for a third season. Make it something like 320IP or so. If we use him for 160IP for two seasons, chances are we’d want him back

[Carpin]

I’d be fine with a vesting option based on IP for a third season. Make it something like 320IP or so. If we use him for 160IP for two seasons, chances are we’d want him back

 

I like the idea, you can also add another option with another 160IP in the 3rd year

[Meh]

Some rumblings about Realmuto headed to the Mets, Thor to the Yankees, in some type of three team deal.

 

Yankees get Thor

Mets get Realmuto and Gray

Marlins get Florial, Loaisiga, Abreu, and Whitlock?

[Fan_since_Boggs]

Some rumblings about Realmuto headed to the Mets, Thor to the Yankees, in some type of three team deal.

 

Yankees get Thor

Mets get Realmuto and Gray

Marlins get Florial, Loaisiga, Abreu, and Whitlock?

 

That wouldn't be enough for the Mets or Marlins. I would think that Andujar would need to be involved in the trade.

[jacksonianmarch]

Sounds like the Yanks are pushing for the trade here and might be looking at Wheeler instead