2018-2019 Yankee rumors thread

[Jasonbay44]

I personally don't want Machado or Harper going to New York, they might be "*******s" but they are great players, which would be going to a hitters park, and join an already stacked lineup.

[a700hitter]

I personally don't want Machado or Harper going to New York, they might be "*******s" but they are great players, which would be going to a hitters park, and join an already stacked lineup.

I'd rather they get more hitters than good pitchers.

[jacksonianmarch]

We are getting pitching. You can be sure of that. I wonder if we see a true blockbuster. Imagine a deal with Sevy going elsewhere and bringing in Bumgarner or something like that. I keep forgetting that Kershaw is a FA

[Jasonbay44]

I'd rather they get more hitters than good pitchers.

 

They could potentially get those good hitters like Machado, then use their loaded farm system and/or young current MLB players (Andujar for example) to get pitching. They have a lot of assets, the less star hitters they get, the better lol.

[jacksonianmarch]

For a “depleted” farm, we still have 4 top 100s and probably the deepest farm below the AA level. We have the ability to get good talent without giving up any big league talent. The way I look at it, we would have to make room for any offensive additions beyond Harper as our only open spot is LF. I guess we could send Stanton out to LF if we got a plodding hitter, but that doesn’t sound like what we are going for.

 

I do think we can get at least one good prospect for Gray. While his numbers overall sucked, his road numbers were pristine. That will help the system.

 

Currently, our rotation consists of Severino, Tanaka, Sheffield, Loaisiga, and German if you consider Gray’s trade inevitable. We have two spots to fill as I think we will go into 2019 with that fifth spot being an open competition between all the kids who have auditioned. If the kids can’t do it, we have JMont returning at the ASB or so. I’m adding two, I am unsure who they’ll be. I think Corbin is high on the list, although I like Keuchel too. I wonder if a Eovaldi reunion could be on the horizon too. Bumgarner is out there as well. We could also get DeGrom or Thor. I think we can get MadBum for less than DeGrom or Thor simply due to control as MadBum is only under control for one more year. We could probably get MadBum without hurting the current roster. If we go for one of the Mets duo, we will have to send Andujar plus as they’re both under control for two seasons or more.

[Bellhorn04]

Great news to hear your whole coaching staff is returning.

[moonslav59]

Great news to hear your whole coaching staff is returning.

 

I'm overwhelmed with gratitude!

[Bellhorn04]

Machado added to his punk reputation yet again last night. Unbelievable.

[Slasher9]

Machado added to his punk reputation yet again last night. Unbelievable.

 

perfect fit for pinstripes.

[Bellhorn04]

perfect fit for pinstripes.

 

They might even get a bit of a punk discount on him now.

[Carpin]

We are getting pitching. You can be sure of that. I wonder if we see a true blockbuster. Imagine a deal with Sevy going elsewhere and bringing in Bumgarner or something like that. I keep forgetting that Kershaw is a FA

 

Seriously?? trade Severino??

[Carpin]

If it means we get one GAME CHANGER pitcher, like MadBum or deGrom, I'd be inclined to trade Andujar, but not Severino or Torres

[BillyWilliams]

Manny Machado not worth the trouble for the Yankees

By Kevin Kernan October 17, 2018 | 4:13am

 

LOS ANGELES — Manny Machado’s free agency isn’t exactly getting off on the right foot. There haven’t been this many red flags out here since the last beach closing in Malibu.

 

The Dodgers shortstop is on a stunningly destructive course this postseason to keep teams from signing him even though he has a world of talent, and his incredible tone-deaf comments about his lack of hustle are the ultimate warning: Let the buyer beware.

 

To make matters worse, Machado took a cheap shot at Brewers first baseman Jesus Aguilar in the 10th inning of a 1-1 game Tuesday night at Dodger Stadium. As Machado was getting thrown out at first, his left foot kicked Aguilar’s right plant foot and Aguilar let him know he was not happy as benches emptied.

 

Stay away, Yankees. Stay far, far away. Spend your money elsewhere.

 

In the 13th, Machado came around from second to score the winning run on Cody Bellinger’s two-out single to right as the Dodgers came away with a dramatic 2-1 victory after five hours and 15 minutes to even the NLCS at 2-2.

 

Machado hustled to score and slapped the plate with his left hand as he slid home, setting off a wild celebration.

 

As for the earlier play at first, Machado said, “Things happen. We know each other since the minor leagues.’’

 

Still, the Brewers were furious with Machado, calling it a dirty play, and as Christian Yelich walked away from his locker, he fumed, “F–k that motherf—er.’’

 

“His foot was on the bag,’’ Machado said of Aguilar. “I was trying to get over him and hit his foot, if that’s dirty, that’s dirty, call it what you want.’’

 

It was dirty.

 

As for Machado playing hard on the play at first base, Craig Counsell said, “I don’t think he’s playing all that hard.’’

 

Yes, now this series has an edge.

 

Machado singled with one out and moved to second on a wild pitch to set up Bellinger’s two-out game-winning hit.

 

Machado had told Ken Rosenthal in an interview on FS1 that if you are looking for hustle, Malibu Manny is not your guy.

 

Amazing, Manny wants his $300-plus million but doesn’t want to break a sweat.

 

Yankees fans don’t want any part of that kind of attitude, no matter what kind of talent the player possesses.

 

“Obviously I’m not going to change, I’m not the type of player that’s going to be ‘Johnny Hustle,’ and run down the line and slide to first base. That’s just not my personality, that’s not my cup of tea, that’s not who I am,’’ Machado explained as to why he did not run hard on a ground ball in Game 2.

 

How about Johnny Cheap Shot?

 

Manny doesn’t want to be Johnny Hustle. He’s too cool for that school of baseball. He’s going to play his way, and if you don’t like it, too bad. That’s your problem.

 

No, Machado doesn’t want to be Johnny Hustle, but he does want to be Johnny Paycheck.

 

He can’t even fake hustle in an effort to get his team back to the World Series. The Dodgers haven’t won a World Series since 1988.

 

“Should I have run on that pitch? Yeah … but I didn’t and I got to pay the consequences for it,’’ said Machado, who was criticized by many, including Hall of Fame pitcher and Orioles broadcaster Jim Palmer, who has watched Machado play in Baltimore.

 

“It does look bad. It looks terrible,’’ Machado admitted. “I look back at the video and I’m like, ‘Whoa, what was I doing?’ I’m the type of player that has stayed in the zone, I’m playing and I’m just in the zone.’’

 

The Dodgers traded for Machado, but don’t expect them to sign him long-term. “He doesn’t want to be a leader,’’ one Dodgers official told The Post, another major red flag.

 

Manny wants the money but not the responsibility. Aaron Judge has established a style of play for the Yankees: Hustle and support your teammates. If Machado were to show up in pinstripes and say, “I’m not hustling. That’s not me,’’ that changes the team dynamic.

 

“I’ve tried changing it for eight years and I still can’t figure it out, but one of these days I will,’’ Machado told Rosenthal.

 

He’s not changing. Here are some more observations.

 

“At shortstop, he doesn’t use two hands, and that’s not good,’’ one talent evaluator at the NLCS told The Post. “He’s a tremendous third baseman and his arm is spectacular, but he’s not a top-quality shortstop.’’

 

Machado is basically telling the Yankees: Don’t sign me. If you do sign me, this is what you will get, home runs, but no hustle.

 

Let the Phillies or Angels sign Machado.

 

The Yankees have home run hitters. Let Judge lead the way, let Giancarlo Stanton re-evaluate his swing and make the adjustments. Go get pitching.

 

Machado’s home OPS throughout his career that was mostly spent at Camden Yards is .887. His road OPS is .761, a significant difference.

 

Machado is a supremely talented player who openly admits he will not hustle and will not change. How does that benefit a team?

 

Manny Machado is not worth the money or the headache.

 

 

https://nypost.com/2018/10/17/manny-machado-not-worth-the-trouble-for-the-yankees/

[BillyWilliams]

If it means we get one GAME CHANGER pitcher, like MadBum or deGrom, I'd be inclined to trade Andujar, but not Severino or Torres

 

More delusions from jacko, Sevy's not going anywhere........

[Bellhorn04]

Manny Machado not worth the trouble for the Yankees

By Kevin Kernan October 17, 2018 | 4:13am

 

LOS ANGELES — Manny Machado’s free agency isn’t exactly getting off on the right foot. There haven’t been this many red flags out here since the last beach closing in Malibu.

 

The Dodgers shortstop is on a stunningly destructive course this postseason to keep teams from signing him even though he has a world of talent, and his incredible tone-deaf comments about his lack of hustle are the ultimate warning: Let the buyer beware.

 

To make matters worse, Machado took a cheap shot at Brewers first baseman Jesus Aguilar in the 10th inning of a 1-1 game Tuesday night at Dodger Stadium. As Machado was getting thrown out at first, his left foot kicked Aguilar’s right plant foot and Aguilar let him know he was not happy as benches emptied.

 

Stay away, Yankees. Stay far, far away. Spend your money elsewhere.

 

In the 13th, Machado came around from second to score the winning run on Cody Bellinger’s two-out single to right as the Dodgers came away with a dramatic 2-1 victory after five hours and 15 minutes to even the NLCS at 2-2.

 

Machado hustled to score and slapped the plate with his left hand as he slid home, setting off a wild celebration.

 

As for the earlier play at first, Machado said, “Things happen. We know each other since the minor leagues.’’

 

Still, the Brewers were furious with Machado, calling it a dirty play, and as Christian Yelich walked away from his locker, he fumed, “F–k that motherf—er.’’

 

“His foot was on the bag,’’ Machado said of Aguilar. “I was trying to get over him and hit his foot, if that’s dirty, that’s dirty, call it what you want.’’

 

It was dirty.

 

As for Machado playing hard on the play at first base, Craig Counsell said, “I don’t think he’s playing all that hard.’’

 

Yes, now this series has an edge.

 

Machado singled with one out and moved to second on a wild pitch to set up Bellinger’s two-out game-winning hit.

 

Machado had told Ken Rosenthal in an interview on FS1 that if you are looking for hustle, Malibu Manny is not your guy.

 

Amazing, Manny wants his $300-plus million but doesn’t want to break a sweat.

 

Yankees fans don’t want any part of that kind of attitude, no matter what kind of talent the player possesses.

 

“Obviously I’m not going to change, I’m not the type of player that’s going to be ‘Johnny Hustle,’ and run down the line and slide to first base. That’s just not my personality, that’s not my cup of tea, that’s not who I am,’’ Machado explained as to why he did not run hard on a ground ball in Game 2.

 

How about Johnny Cheap Shot?

 

Manny doesn’t want to be Johnny Hustle. He’s too cool for that school of baseball. He’s going to play his way, and if you don’t like it, too bad. That’s your problem.

 

No, Machado doesn’t want to be Johnny Hustle, but he does want to be Johnny Paycheck.

 

He can’t even fake hustle in an effort to get his team back to the World Series. The Dodgers haven’t won a World Series since 1988.

 

“Should I have run on that pitch? Yeah … but I didn’t and I got to pay the consequences for it,’’ said Machado, who was criticized by many, including Hall of Fame pitcher and Orioles broadcaster Jim Palmer, who has watched Machado play in Baltimore.

 

“It does look bad. It looks terrible,’’ Machado admitted. “I look back at the video and I’m like, ‘Whoa, what was I doing?’ I’m the type of player that has stayed in the zone, I’m playing and I’m just in the zone.’’

 

The Dodgers traded for Machado, but don’t expect them to sign him long-term. “He doesn’t want to be a leader,’’ one Dodgers official told The Post, another major red flag.

 

Manny wants the money but not the responsibility. Aaron Judge has established a style of play for the Yankees: Hustle and support your teammates. If Machado were to show up in pinstripes and say, “I’m not hustling. That’s not me,’’ that changes the team dynamic.

 

“I’ve tried changing it for eight years and I still can’t figure it out, but one of these days I will,’’ Machado told Rosenthal.

 

He’s not changing. Here are some more observations.

 

“At shortstop, he doesn’t use two hands, and that’s not good,’’ one talent evaluator at the NLCS told The Post. “He’s a tremendous third baseman and his arm is spectacular, but he’s not a top-quality shortstop.’’

 

Machado is basically telling the Yankees: Don’t sign me. If you do sign me, this is what you will get, home runs, but no hustle.

 

Let the Phillies or Angels sign Machado.

 

The Yankees have home run hitters. Let Judge lead the way, let Giancarlo Stanton re-evaluate his swing and make the adjustments. Go get pitching.

 

Machado’s home OPS throughout his career that was mostly spent at Camden Yards is .887. His road OPS is .761, a significant difference.

 

Machado is a supremely talented player who openly admits he will not hustle and will not change. How does that benefit a team?

 

Manny Machado is not worth the money or the headache.

 

 

https://nypost.com/2018/10/17/manny-machado-not-worth-the-trouble-for-the-yankees/

 

Gonna be fun when you guys sign him.

[BillyWilliams]

Gonna be fun when you guys sign him.

 

I would be very surprised if we do........

[Carpin]

Gonna be fun when you guys sign him.

 

The big difference in the last few years is that Cashman is favoring high character guys over "head cases" as Machado, I might be wrong, but really doubt the Yankees sign Machado

[Bellhorn04]

I'll be impressed if you don't.

[BillyWilliams]

The big difference in the last few years is that Cashman is favoring high character guys over "head cases" as Machado, I might be wrong, but really doubt the Yankees sign Machado

 

Agreed.

 

I could be wrong, but I just don't see him fitting in salary-wise or personality-wise.

[bkzwhitestrican]

Machado is a definitely a punk. On that one collision with Aguilar on first though, Aguilar definitely left his leg on first base to try to initiate some kind of contact. Any experienced first baseman knows that you take your leg away from first as soon as you get the out.. not sure what he was trying to do. And Manny being the punk he is obliged and dragged his foot into him.

[jacksonianmarch]

Harper is probably more likely anyway

[jacksonianmarch]

Cashman confirms we will be heavily involved in the pitching market. In other news, water is wet. I think we will see two big additions to the rotation, one subtraction in Gray and maybe a ST deal for a vet if the kids look rough in ST.

 

Wouldn’t be surprised to see us in on Kershaw when he opts our. He’s still young, but there’s lot of miles on that arm and a back issue is always concerning. But he’s as good as it gets

[Carpin]

I'm more on MadBum and Goldschmidt, I know the cost in prospects will be huge, but it's worth the dream

[jacksonianmarch]

Maybe we get Yusei Kikuchi. Lefty power pitcher who had a down year (still pretty fantastic). At his best, mid 90s with a deadly slider/change combo. Projected mid rotation. Would t mind adding him plus an ace

[notin]

My one 2019 Yankees prediction

 

The Yankees trade Sonny Gray to the Cubs for Addison Russell.

 

The Cubs are definitely moving Russell because of his domestic abuse allegations, and the Yankees are certainly one team that has used these type of situations to buy low in the past (See Chapman, Aroldis.) with some serious long and short term success. The TJ surgery for Didi Grigorious creates an opportunity for the defensively gifted Russell at short in NY, and really, while some have said Didi will be back for the bulk of 2019, that's very inconsistent with this type of surgery.

 

Moving Russell like this also opens the door for the Cubs to sign either Bryce Harper (which moves Heyward to CF, Happ to 2B and Baez to SS) or Manny Machado (who simply replaces Russell at SS).

 

Acquiring Russell is this deal takes the Yankees out of the running for Machado, but opens the possibility of signing Harper or Clayton Kershaw, if they feel like spending heavy again.

 

Gray isn't a great SP, but he has had some success, and a move to the NL should benefit him somewhat, and is a pretty good acquisition for a player with potential legal issues. This is a rare trade where both team have the chance to buy low and have it work out...

[notin]

The big difference in the last few years is that Cashman is favoring high character guys over "head cases" as Machado, I might be wrong, but really doubt the Yankees sign Machado

 

Is that why he traded for Aroldis Chapman in the midst of domestic abuse allegations?

[bkzwhitestrican]

One seedy character is enough for the team. Anyway Chapman was just doing "desk pops" in his garage, not the same situation!

[jacksonianmarch]

Well Yankee fans, this is what we’ve waited for. During the great rebuild of 2016, we targeted 2019 as the year of the Yankee. We’d shed some baggage, hope a few of the kids worked out and then go balls deep into this FA market. Interesting things happened along the way. The kids were good, really good. We made two consecutive playoffs and lost to the eventual WS winner in each. Now, with a core of incredible young talent and a pen stocked with arms ready to produce, it’s time to see what this epic FA market can do for us.

 

Machado was the player from the outset of this season that was target number one. But with his antics, he’s probably not the right add to a young team. We have an OF slot open and two great choices to fill it. We might like Brantley better just because he can hit for a high average and won’t cost as much, but Harper in NY would be insane. We need a left handed bat in this lineup. If we add Harper and Didi ends up coming back by May, our lineup for the majority of the year will be

 

1. Hicks CF

2. Judge RF

3. Harper LF

4. Stanton DH

5. Gregorius SS

6. Andujar 3B

7. Voit/Bird 1B

8. Sanchez C

9. Torres 2B

 

That lineup is incredible. I anticipate a big year from Stanton and maybe another .250/35 season from Harper as he adjusts, but that lineup would have no breaks in it. None.

 

But that’s not the only question. Sanchez was abhorrent behind the plate and at the dish. He was hurt for much of the season and maybe that threw off his abilities, but when he’s on, he might be the best hitter in the lineup. He got far too pull happy. When he goes oppo, he hits much better. My guess is we will be working on his weight (he gained too much muscle) and his flexibility. I anticipate he will get better, but we will need a better contingency than Romine. Do the Yanks go out and get a guy like Ramos?

 

Andujar has the offensive tools to be an MVP candidate one day. He’s quick and has a cannon, so he has the tools to be a quality defender, except he wasn’t in 2018. Not even close. Do we consider Machado instead to shore up 3b and use Andujar as trade bait?

 

With Didi’s injury, do we non tender him and try a longer deal? Do we move on from him? If we do, that all buses assures we go after Machado

 

Those are really the four questions on offense. If we don’t get a LFer, we can always move Stanton out there. He’s got a history of being an average to quality OFer, so he doesn’t have to stay at DH. That’ll open up DH to Ramos or Sanchez should we add a catcher. Either way, the offense is stacked. We just really need to add a LH hitter of quality to it

[jacksonianmarch]

On the pitching front, we clearly have needs. We’ve got a quality top 2 in Tanaka and Severino. We will likely use Sheffield or Loaisiga as the 5 to start the year with JMont returning after the ASB if his recovery goes well. Gray is penciled into the rotation, but he needs to be moved. I think the Yanks will get more than most expect in a deal. Gray has been nails away from the stadium. He belongs in the NL. With the cost of the higher tier pitchers, I think the market for Gray will be hot come January.

 

In terms of the two starters we will need, I thought we’d go lefty-lefty before the playoffs. Instead, I think Eovaldi is the guy to get again. Without the cutter, Eo was a Juggs machine half the time and dominant the other. With the cutter, he’s untouchable and he dominated when the chips were down. Time to get him again. I think he will get a big AAV, but likely a shorter guarantee with his injury history. I can see a 4 year $75 mil deal for Eo

 

For number two, I see the Yankees trying to get Bumgarner. That being said, a lot will depend on which hitter we get. If we get Machado, then I could see Andujar going for an elite pitcher. If we get An OFer, this is less likely. If we don’t go the trade market, I see Corbin in our future. Lefty pitcher who commands the ball, gets grounders and was utterly dominant in a hitters park this year. If we go Eo and Corbin, I think we can slot Sevy down in the rotation to take some pressure off. We also need to fix Sevy’s pitch tipping. It’s not a secret. The Sox knew when he was throwing a fastball. They knew it from August on. Most teams did. His stuff is too good to be on him as well as they are without knowing it’s coming. Tweak his tipping issue, slot him #4 out of the getgo and go for there

 

Rotation

 

Tanaka

Corbin

Eovaldi

Severino

Sheffield/Montgomery/Loaisiga

 

This leaves us with pen. With KRob and Britton moving on, we still have a formidable pen.

 

Closer is Chapman. His knee seemed better and he was hitting triple digits again

 

Setup is Betances. He was utterly dominant and is heading into his contract year

 

The top middle guy is Green who was also dominant.

 

Behind him is Holder, who really burst onto the scene as a reliable middle relief arm with great stuff

 

When your pen in preseason has four top notch arms, you’re doing something right. We might end up getting a lefty capable of facings lefties and righties to square off the righty dominant middle relief role. Most likely, we let our kids fill in. I see a role her for German or Cessa to carve out a spot in middle relief. Those guys throw gas when they start, and should elevate that when the relieve. Tarpley also came on as a lefty killer. He might end up being the lefty I talked about above.

 

If I had a crystal ball, which clearly I don’t, I predict NY to get Harper and Corbin. We will be in the market for Bumgarner if he’s moved. We will be in the market for Eovaldi as well as a reunion with Happ

[bkzwhitestrican]

Nate pitched great this postseason but hard pass for me. Whoever signs him is going to have to pay out the ass for what he did in just half a season. And while the cutter has changed his repertoire a bit, I don't think the Yankees should dedicate THAT much of their cap to such a big risk.

 

I think they get Corbin and then re-sign either Happ or CC.

 

Severino

Corbin

Tanaka

Happ/CC

Sheffield/Lasagna/King

Edited October 29, 2018 by bkzwhitestrican