Sox won AL East

[cp176]

I would not carry on Young on the post season roster. I would prefer to take Rajai Davis as 4th OFer. He has stolen base speed and he is a good fielder too.

 

I would bet that that is what we are going to see.

[TylerD]

I would bet that that is what we are going to see.

 

I Will say though Young was one of our only highlights in game one against Houston last series. I think he had 4 straight hits or something.

[illinoisredsox]

When will we know the playoff roster?

 

They don't have to finalize it until Thursday morning.

[Maxbialystock]

Farrell says 14 position players and 11 pitchers. I see these 25

 

11 pitchers: 5 from the rotation + Kimbrel, Reed, Price, Kelly, Barnes, and Smith. All 5 starters because I think Farrell wants to delay the decision on who starts game 4 on October 9 as long as possible.

 

14 position players: 9 regulars (Moreland, Pedey, Bogie, Devers, Beni, JBJ, Betts, HanRam, and Vazquez) + 1 catcher (Leon), Nunez, Davis, Holt, and anyone's guess but mine would be Marrero (over Young). Nunez for his bat, Davis for his speed on the bases, Holt for his inevitability, and Marrero for his defense. Interesting alternatives, especially if Nunez is not ready for the ALDS, are Swihart and Travis, but Young is also possible.

Edited October 3, 2017 by Maxbialystock

[a700hitter]

Farrell says 14 position players and 11 pitchers. I see these 25

 

11 pitchers: 5 from the rotation + Kimbrel, Reed, Price, Kelly, Barnes, and Smith. All 5 starters because I think Farrell wants to delay the decision on who starts game 4 on October 9 as long as possible.

 

14 position players: 9 regulars (Moreland, Pedey, Bogie, Devers, Beni, JBJ, Betts, HanRam, and Vazquez) + 1 catcher (Leon), Nunez, Davis, Holt, and anyone's guess but mine would be Marrero (over Young). Nunez for his bat, Davis for his speed on the bases, Holt for his inevitability, and Marrero for his defense. Interesting alternatives, especially if Nunez is not ready for the ALDS, are Swihart and Travis, but Young is also possible.

I would agree with Marrero over Young. While I would prefer another potent bench bat, Young has not been that this year. We are probably better with a premium glove for late inning defense.

[illinoisredsox]

I would agree with Marrero over Young. While I would prefer another potent bench bat, Young has not been that this year. We are probably better with a premium glove for late inning defense.

 

Actually, Young has been pretty decent off the bench this season. It's when he starts he has really had trouble.

 

Acknowledging small sample size:

 

As a sub: .333/.478/.812

As a ph: .400/.550/.950

As a starter: .227/.308/.699

 

Young brings little to the table for the ALDS (and potentially ALCS). He might be more valuable on a potential World Series roster, where pitchers will have to hit in 3-4 games and a bench guy who's had a modicum of success as a ph might be needed. Hanley certainly has struggled in the role.

 

Marrero has to be there as a defensive sub for Devers, and also because of Nunez's and Pedroia's problems.

[OH FOY]

Final stats for teams.

Starters Houston finished 6th, 4.03 era BAA .243

Boston 8th, 4.06 era, BAA .255

Relievers Houston finished 17th, 4.27 era, BAA .234

Boston 2nd 3.15 era, .226 BAA

We got to get to their Relievers, and when we do we got to hit them.

Astros Relievers have given up 77 HRS, to our 59.

Here's a little stat we should keep an eye out for in a short Series.

Houston Pitchers have thrown 86 Wild Pitches, basically 1 every 2 games.

Sox Pitchers have thrown 43.

More games are determined in the Play-offs, by little things than the HRS.

[moonslav59]

ERA is so old fashioned.

 

Starters

 

79 CLE

79 AZ

82 LAD

83 WSH

89 BOS

90 NYY

10th HOU 95

 

WHIP

1.15 LAD

1.17 CLE

6th HOU 1.26

9th BOS 1.29

 

RP'ers

 

ERA-

64 CLE

70 BOS

76 NYY

21st HOU 101

 

WHIP

1.14 CLE

1.15 LAD

1.16 NYY

1.17 NYY

10th HOU 1.28

xFIP-

78 CLE

84 HOU

84 LAD

86 BOS

87 NYY

 

[cp176]

like wins and losses and batting averages and rbis and all that old stuff. It is all just so so so old. lol

[iortiz]

Congrats to DD for Sox winning back to back Division titles for first time in franchise history.

 

DD had a great tenure in Detroit and the tigers won some division tiles under his belt. Tigers always were solid contenders to win the WSs in those years. He wants to repeat that here. He has the profile, expirence and authority to run a big market team like Boston. We are in good hands moving forward.

[OH FOY]

Any stat that has the word run in it, is important to me. Edited October 4, 2017 by OH FOY!

[Spudboy]

Any stat that has the word run in it, is important to me.

 

Yeah I have no idea what Moon was trying to say with that.

 

Unless he was being sarcastic, it doe not sound like a Moon comment.

[moonslav59]

Yeah I have no idea what Moon was trying to say with that.

 

Unless he was being sarcastic, it doe not sound like a Moon comment.

 

I wasn't being sarcastic.

 

ERA is not useless, but it does not factor in park, defense or strength of opponent. It is more flawed than some stats and metrics others often bash here, especially for RP'ers..

 

ERA for RP'ers, who often enter games with 1 or 2 outs, can be very misleading. It's easy to have a lower ERA, if you start an inning with 2 outs and are taken out after the inning, and only your runner counts against you.

 

ERA- or ERA+ attempts to correct some of those factors, but is not perfect either. They are better than ERA though.

 

That's what I meant by "old fashioned".

 

ERA is not useless, but why use it when other data tells a better story?