Red Sox Trade Deadline 2017 Thread

[Emp9]

JBJ and two A prospects and two low level prospects for Stanton.

 

Move Mookie to center field. Done.

 

Screw the cap.

 

If we're saying screw the cap, why not just go all out for a 3B then? That's the only move we really need to make. No shuffling needed either.

 

Edit: I realize your post was at least half in jest

[BstHcpr]

Beni, Moreland, Travis, Swihart and couple of others prospects not named Devers and Groome for Votto.

 

Call up Brentz and Devers.

 

Now you have some power. Screw the cap. (Betts, Xander, Stanton, Votto, Dustin, Hanley, Devers, Bryce and Catcher.)

 

Bryce Brentz is f***ing useless. He would suck defensively, and OPS .700. Putting him in LF would negate the value gained by adding Votto and Stanton.

[BstHcpr]

JBJ and two A prospects and two low level prospects for Stanton.

 

Move Mookie to center field. Done.

 

Screw the cap.

 

I don't think this trade makes the Red Sox that much better, if at all.

[jacksonianmarch]

Dealing Bradley st this juncture makes no sense at all.

[Hugh2]

If we're saying screw the cap, why not just go all out for a 3B then? That's the only move we really need to make. No shuffling needed either.

 

Edit: I realize your post was at least half in jest

 

Stanton would cost you one of JBJ/Betts/AB + Devers + Matta.

 

You upgrade a position that doesn't need upgrading, and you downgrade your defense. Meanwhile you've just depleted your farm system with no solution for the gapping hole at 3B and you gurantee you stay over the luxury tax.

 

I'm starting to jump on the Alonso boat. Alonso + Devers on the corners might be the spark this offense needs.

[Hugh2]

Brentz is a 28 year old career minor leaguer who has repeatedly failed at the upper levels. I'm not convinced he's turned the corner. Perhaps he has but I wouldn't risk years of control from talents we have in the of now. And Votto as good as Votto is he's still on the hook for 25 million a year from age 33-40.

 

Votto is also the face of their franchise, they aren't going to consider trading him without getting blue chippers in return. The only blue chipper we have is Devers.

[Bellhorn04]

Dealing Bradley st this juncture makes no sense at all.

 

Anyone who suggests trading JBJ is drunk, high, joking or a combination thereof.

[bowman]

Why not give him a quick look. What do we have to lose. After all, we give every one else chances until it becomes an embarrassment. By the way, Panda back to Giants where he feels at home. We got horned. 50 mill. richer, that fat piece of ,l;, should feel real proud... No Shaw and no Panda and a relief pitcher who hasn't thrown a pitch. We fall too much in love with our players and overlook the big picture. DD better have something up his sleeve.

[bowman]

No one outside of Sale on this team is untradable. If JBJ gets you some one huge you wouldn't do it. Do I want to see him go, no. I still believe we need that huge impact bat to take over for Ortiz. No one will ever be Papi, but game changers like Arenado, Stanton, Trout, Harper, etc. come available if lucky maybe once. You better to be willing to pounce on it and have the assets to do so. Look at the way the Celtics are building. They have the assets right now to pounce on that one player ala Davis to put them into the championship. One thing we have to remember is how much Ortiz made everyone around him better. We aren't that far off, but some how DD has to pull a rabbit out of his hat... The Yanks are starting to load up also, so its game on again..

[Hugh2]

Why not give him a quick look. What do we have to lose. After all, we give every one else chances until it becomes an embarrassment. By the way, Panda back to Giants where he feels at home. We got horned. 50 mill. richer, that fat piece of ,l;, should feel real proud... No Shaw and no Panda and a relief pitcher who hasn't thrown a pitch. We fall too much in love with our players and overlook the big picture. DD better have something up his sleeve.

 

Brentz? or Devers? who are we talking about here

[bowman]

Brentz. Bring him up and tell him to swing from his ass..lol Matter of fact, bring em both.

[Hugh2]

Brentz. Bring him up and tell him to swing from his ass..lol Matter of fact, bring em both.

 

And whose spot is he going to take in the lineup? He's not better than Betts/JBJ/Benintendi

[bowman]

I would Dh him one game, give an outfielder some rest one game, etc which would maybe give him a 7 - 10 day window to see if anything has changed with him. Probably not, but right now any player we have under contract putting up numbers has to be considered.

[Hugh2]

I would Dh him one game, give an outfielder some rest one game, etc which would maybe give him a 7 - 10 day window to see if anything has changed with him. Probably not, but right now any player we have under contract putting up numbers has to be considered.

 

He could replace Young on the roster next year, and will definitely get a look in September. Perhaps sooner? Idk.

 

Maybe he's for real, but excuse me for being skeptical after stalling out in AAA for five years. I'm willing to give him a shot as a 4th outfielder and if he's for real he could get more AB's as a DH. But I'm not ready to start him so we can trade one of our three outfielders as suggested earlier.

[OH FOY]

Brentz has been one of hottest hitters for last Month and half, always like bring up hot bat,(last 30 days .303, and .308 against Lefties). Anybody notice Lin played CF yesterday? Edited July 22, 2017 by OH FOY!

[moonslav59]

I would Dh him one game, give an outfielder some rest one game, etc which would maybe give him a 7 - 10 day window to see if anything has changed with him. Probably not, but right now any player we have under contract putting up numbers has to be considered.

 

I'm not sure you can tell anything after a 15 for 40 or 5 for 40 short stretch.

 

I still want Young playing vs all LHPs, but he can play DH as Moreland sits. I can't see booting Young or HRam from DH even for one or two games.

 

Brentz might get a look in September and improve his chances at being given a shot at the 4th OF'er slot in 2018, but he can become a minor league FA after this year, and he may think he has a better shot elsewhere at winning a larger role on a ML club.

 

(Note: Brentz is not on the 40-man roster right now.)

 

[notin]

Stanton would cost you one of JBJ/Betts/AB + Devers + Matta.

 

You upgrade a position that doesn't need upgrading, and you downgrade your defense. Meanwhile you've just depleted your farm system with no solution for the gapping hole at 3B and you gurantee you stay over the luxury tax.

 

I'm starting to jump on the Alonso boat. Alonso + Devers on the corners might be the spark this offense needs.

 

Hopefully Nick was kidding. Otherwise that suggestion is just like George Constanza when he worked for the Yankees. "I figured out how we can get Bonds and Griffey!! And we wouldn't have to give up that much! !!"

 

The more I think about it, the Alonso/Devers solution is the best solution so far....

[notin]

Bryce Brentz is f***ing useless. He would suck defensively, and OPS .700. Putting him in LF would negate the value gained by adding Votto and Stanton.

 

Unless the main issue is the team is scoring too many runs, Bryce Brentz is not the solution for any offensive problem...

[moonslav59]

In the meantime, there's an easier way to replace Moreland in the 4 slot: just move him to the 7 or 8 slot vs RHPs and keep platooning Young vs LHPs.

[Jack Flap]

JBJ and two A prospects and two low level prospects for Stanton.

 

Move Mookie to center field. Done.

 

Screw the cap.

 

Assuming the "two A prospects" are Devers and Groome, I wouldn't do that. That's a huge package to give up for a guy who also comes with almost $300 million left on his contract...it's more than we gave up for Sale, who doesn't have much in the way of injury history and whose contract is an extreme bargain. The Marlins are going to want to shed the salary first and foremost, and I don't think they'd be able to insist on anything near that kind of haul.

Edited July 22, 2017 by Jack Flap

[jacksonianmarch]

Your problem right now is that your lineup has limited depth. You've got three auto-outs in your lineup if you include Moreland post injury. Upgrading a player who is producing doesn't help much. This means that if any of your counted on players go into a prolonged slump (like Bogaerts) then your lineup has no rhythm. Your SP can hide a lot of mistakes, but when opposed by a good pitcher, you're lineup is easily neutralized.

[BstHcpr]

Brentz has been one of hottest hitters for last Month and half, always like bring up hot bat,(last 30 days .303, and .308 against Lefties). Anybody notice Lin played CF yesterday?

 

In AAA as a 28 year old. Get a hold of yourself.

[moonslav59]

Your problem right now is that your lineup has limited depth. You've got three auto-outs in your lineup if you include Moreland post injury. Upgrading a player who is producing doesn't help much. This means that if any of your counted on players go into a prolonged slump (like Bogaerts) then your lineup has no rhythm. Your SP can hide a lot of mistakes, but when opposed by a good pitcher, you're lineup is easily neutralized.

 

We actually seem to do better vs good pitchers and get stymied by unknowns or average pitchers.

 

(No data to back this up, but my gut feels it.)

[BstHcpr]

Stanton would cost you one of JBJ/Betts/AB + Devers + Matta.

 

You upgrade a position that doesn't need upgrading, and you downgrade your defense. Meanwhile you've just depleted your farm system with no solution for the gapping hole at 3B and you gurantee you stay over the luxury tax.

 

I'm starting to jump on the Alonso boat. Alonso + Devers on the corners might be the spark this offense needs.

 

No, he wouldn't. Teams are not lining up to eat that contract and give up significant talent to do it.

[Jack Flap]

No, he wouldn't. Teams are not lining up to eat that contract and give up significant talent to do it.

 

Exactly.

[Spudboy]

We actually seem to do better vs good pitchers and get stymied by unknowns or average pitchers.

 

(No data to back this up, but my gut feels it.)

 

This includes relief pitchers that the Sox have not seen too.

[jacksonianmarch]

Slav, you've scored 3ER in 24.1IP vs starters with a sub 4ERA since the ASB (Happ, Stroman, CC, Severino). I'd say your observation isn't particularly accurate

[Spudboy]

Slav, you've scored 3ER in 24.1IP vs starters with a sub 4ERA since the ASB (Happ, Stroman, CC, Severino). I'd say your observation isn't particularly accurate

 

The Sox offense is mediocre and just can not erupt for clumps of runs frequently as we have been used to.

 

It is an enigma to borrow a phrase from Kimmi.

[jacksonianmarch]

It's not an enigma at all. Papi was a world class presence in your order. He left a major void. Your lineup shortened and wasn't replaced.

[Spudboy]

It's not an enigma at all. Papi was a world class presence in your order. He left a major void. Your lineup shortened and wasn't replaced.

 

That is not my word. I agree that losing Ortiz was a huge factor and that the Sox did not do enough to replace his lost production.

 

Still, this offense should be able to do more that what it has to date.

 

No one has had a sustained run of consistent hitting. Maybe the loss of the Ortiz bat has contributed to this but who can say for sure.

 

So an unexplained drop in performance can be viewed as enigmatic. I think.

 

By the way Doc. I stated that it is my belief that once a bone is dislocated it is more likely to be dislocated again. Is this accurate at all?

 

I was referring to ERod. Also, it is my understanding that quad exercises can help prevent further dislocation of the patella. Is that so?

 

Thanks.