Should Jackie Bradley Jr be traded?

[moonslav59]

I don’t think anyone expects JBJ to be dealt in season. Any moves would be in the off season

 

If Pedey returns and looks sharp and healthy, we'll need a place for Nunez to play. (Nunez probably plays a better LF than JMart.)

 

If a great need for a SP'er arises by the deadline, I could see DD looking into trading JBJ (plus maybe Wright, Johnson or Velazquez) for a solid SP'er.

 

I hope we keep JBJ, but things can change within a season.

[moonslav59]

150 At bats, and get back to me. Relax. 2 weeks into season, holy smokes. And I have been hard on him.

 

Exactly, and maybe even 150 PAs isn't enough to make a rash decision.

 

To me, no decision needs to be made until Pedey returns.

[notin]

If Pedey returns and looks sharp and healthy, we'll need a place for Nunez to play. (Nunez probably plays a better LF than JMart.)

 

If a great need for a SP'er arises by the deadline, I could see DD looking into trading JBJ (plus maybe Wright, Johnson or Velazquez) for a solid SP'er.

 

I hope we keep JBJ, but things can change within a season.

 

We don't even know who will still be when Pedroia returns. The problem is probably best not worried about until then. It would suck to deal Bradley to make room for Pedroia, only to see Nunez go down and suddenly left field is manned by Holt. ..

[moonslav59]

We don't even know who will still be when Pedroia returns. The problem is probably best not worried about until then. It would suck to deal Bradley to make room for Pedroia, only to see Nunez go down and suddenly left field is manned by Holt. ..

 

That's why I said wait until we see if Pedey is sharp and healthy. Even then, I'll need a serious talking into trading JBJ.

[Natick to NC]

Pedey and JBJ are both incredibly gifted with D but Pedey with that micro fracture is now at the end of his career....Pedey shouldn't dictate anyone's future standing because Pedey has none himself ...both players should be upgraded as soon as that is possible .The thought is rough and was hard to come to grips but it's time . Edited April 8, 2018 by Natick to NC

[moonslav59]

Pedey and JBJ are both incredibly gifted with D but Pedey with that micro fracture is now at the end of his career....Pedey shouldn't dictate anyone's future standing because Pedey has none himself ...both players should be upgraded as soon as that is possible .

 

How?

 

We have no budget space.

 

We have no top prospects to trade for someone better than Pedey/Nenez at 2B or JBJ/beni in CF.

 

We signed Nunez to cover for Pedey and maybe indirectly JBJ, too, as Nunez can play LF, perhaps better than JMart can.

 

BTW, I still think our weakest position is 1B and not CF or 2B.

 

Our infield defense already increases the challenges our pitching staff faces every game. I'm not sure we want to weaken two OF positions by replacing JBJ.

[Natick to NC]

How?

 

We have no budget space.

 

We have no top prospects to trade for someone better than Pedey/Nenez at 2B or JBJ/beni in CF.

 

We signed Nunez to cover for Pedey and maybe indirectly JBJ, too, as Nunez can play LF, perhaps better than JMart can.

 

BTW, I still think our weakest position is 1B and not CF or 2B.

 

Our infield defense already increases the challenges our pitching staff faces every game. I'm not sure we want to weaken two OF positions by replacing JBJ.

I'm not saying cut bait this season it's too late .

[Natick to NC]

How?

 

We have no budget space.

 

We have no top prospects to trade for someone better than Pedey/Nenez at 2B or JBJ/beni in CF.

 

We signed Nunez to cover for Pedey and maybe indirectly JBJ, too, as Nunez can play LF, perhaps better than JMart can.

 

BTW, I still think our weakest position is 1B and not CF or 2B.Vaz has really worked on hitting and he's locked in the 1 at catcher and we have depth ...Hanley is doing a fsntastic job on D and O at 1b and Mitch is a hell of a num 2 ....

 

Our infield defense already increases the challenges our pitching staff faces every game. I'm not sure we want to weaken two OF positions by replacing JBJ.

 

Our weakest position is Cf then 2b moon .JBJ is just too inconsistent and Pedey is not the Pedey of 7 years ago ...but who is .

Edited April 8, 2018 by Natick to NC

[S5Dewey]

Our weakest position is Cf then 2b moon .JBJ is just too inconsistent and Pedey is not the Pedey of 7 years ago ...but who is .

 

But that's all based on offense. There's only one way to win a baseball game and that's by keeping your opponent from scoring more runs than you do.

 

Our weakest position is not CF. In fact, that's one of our strongest positions. The issue is that whatever spot JBJ fills in the BA is one of the weakest ones - or at least one of the most erratic ones. I strongly believe that this team can carry JBJ's erratic offense as long as he's playing defense the way he does.

 

As long as our pitching staff and defense are performing as well as they are and we keep winning there is NFW I even consider trading JBJ. To trade him would be trading one problem (lack of offense in his spot) for another (lack of defense in the OF).

[moonslav59]

Our weakest position is Cf then 2b moon .JBJ is just too inconsistent and Pedey is not the Pedey of 7 years ago ...but who is .

 

Nunez is good enough on offense to offset his poor 2B defense.

 

He and Pedey are better at 2B than HRam and Moreland are at 1B.

 

JBJ is not a weakness. He's a clear strength that, IMO, every GM would love on their team.

[moonslav59]

2017 Team WAR by Position

 

(Note: we had the same guys at 1B, 2B and CF.)

 

0.9 1B (24th in MLB)

2.0 CF (22nd)

1.7 LF (20th)

2.3 2B (17th)

1.9 C (17th)

 

Why not start bashing Beni?

 

We're a whole 5% into the season and he sucks!

[moonslav59]

2017+ 2018

 

1B 0.9 (26th in MLB)

CF 1.8 (22nd)

LF 1.8 (19th)

2B 2.2 (19th)

C 1.8 (17th)

 

(Note: I'm not claiming WAR is the be-all-end-all judgment criteria.)

 

[Natick to NC]

I'd like to come here and say I'm an idiot ....a total freaking idiot ....JBJ has a lifetime card in CF as of today .Moon be nice .Go easy ....I've let my dream die about Swihart ...it's been a great day don't ruin it ....Prayers for Xander by all that pray please ...not kidding hit a knee . Edited April 8, 2018 by Natick to NC

[Natick to NC]

But that's all based on offense. There's only one way to win a baseball game and that's by keeping your opponent from scoring more runs than you do.

 

Our weakest position is not CF. In fact, that's one of our strongest positions. The issue is that whatever spot JBJ fills in the BA is one of the weakest ones - or at least one of the most erratic ones. I strongly believe that this team can carry JBJ's erratic offense as long as he's playing defense the way he does.

 

As long as our pitching staff and defense are performing as well as they are and we keep winning there is NFW I even consider trading JBJ. To trade him would be trading one problem (lack of offense in his spot) for another (lack of defense in the OF).

 

You both have converted me happy ??? I know I am now because myyyyy God that was aweful watching a goat screw the green monster ...it's not a good look .

[S5Dewey]

This thread should be taken down after seeing what this team looked like today without JBJ in that outfield. UgLeeeee.

[Natick to NC]

This thread should be taken down after seeing what this team looked like today without JBJ in that outfield. UgLeeeee.

 

Can we burn this thread ??? I would really like my responses scrubbed ...it's not right one man can be sooooo damn wrong lol

[moonslav59]

I'd like to come here and say I'm an idiot ....a total freaking idiot ....JBJ has a lifetime card in CF as of today .Moon be nice .Go easy ....I've let my dream die about Swihart ...it's been a great day don't ruin it ....Prayers for Xander by all that pray please ...not kidding hit a knee .

 

Fair enough.

 

I know you egt emotional, but try to relax a little.

 

[Natick to NC]

Fair enough.

 

I know you egt emotional, but try to relax a little.

 

 

Let the Yankee fans relax I live and die on every pitch

[a700hitter]

Let the Yankee fans relax I live and die on every pitch

You have got the disease.

[Jasonbay44]

This thread should be taken down after seeing what this team looked like today without JBJ in that outfield. UgLeeeee.

 

Yup. I've been telling people all season, JBJ's bat, or lack thereof, is well worth having his elite defense. I really don't want to see anymore JD in the outfield unless absolutely necessary, he has been awful in both games out there. He missed played that ball in Miami that Mookie catches with ease and today he was a s*** show all game.

[iortiz]

I still don’t understand why Cora insists in shuffle the OF. JD is not an OF, period.

[moonslav59]

9 games- no errors.

 

What are you guys complaining about?

 

Our defense leads MLB in Flg%.

 

(Sarcasm alert.)

[S5Dewey]

9 games- no errors.

 

What are you guys complaining about?

 

Our defense leads MLB in Flg%.

 

(Sarcasm alert.)

 

I hope the hardcore stat geeks pay attention to this.

[sk7326]

I still don’t understand why Cora insists in shuffle the OF. JD is not an OF, period.

 

i think it is more the 5 players for 4 positions thing - Bradley-Betts-Benintendi-Martinez-Ramirez for the OF and DH spots. Given the challenge is finding room for quality bats - it's probably in the area of "good problem".

 

The tricky thing is - since sitting Moreland against lefties does not really give Ramirez enough ABs, how do you keep his bat in the lineup sufficiently.

[Kimmi]

9 games- no errors.

 

What are you guys complaining about?

 

Our defense leads MLB in Flg%.

 

(Sarcasm alert.)

 

Amen brother Moon.

[notin]

I hope the hardcore stat geeks pay attention to this.

 

Do we also pay attention to the "sarcasm alert"?

[moonslav59]

Do we also pay attention to the "sarcasm alert"?

 

Apparently not.

[S5Dewey]

Apparently not.

 

See, that's the great thing about sarcasm. It overstates a point in order to make another point. Sometimes it's worthwhile to ignore that it's sarcasm in order to point out the ridiculousness of the original point.

[Sox75]

I still don’t understand why Cora insists in shuffle the OF. JD is not an OF, period.

 

JDM has made it clear that he wants to play the OF.

 

When your big $ bat insists on playing the OF, and not just being a DH, you listen.

 

My guess is that promises were made, JBJ is making that call easy right now. I hope we are not shopping JBJ!

 

JDM is not a good fielder.

[SoxHop]

I did go back and look. Yess, he had 7 RBI in that 22-10 win over Seattle, but 3 games later he had 3 RBI in a 6-4 win and later he had 2 RBIs in 6-4 game and 3 RBI is a 7-6 win over TOR. He also had RBIs in close losses, 1 RBI in a 7-5 win that put us ahead 4-2.

 

In 2016, he had 6 RBI in a 14-7 win and 2 in an 8-7 win vs TEX. Later, he had 1 RBI in an 6-5 win vs TB.

 

During last year's hot streak at the end of May and early June, he did this...

 

4RBI in 13-7 win

1 RBI in 2-3 loss

2 RBI in 7-3 win

3RBI in 5-3 win

Then, after the team scored 3 runs in 3 games, he had ...

2 RBI in a 6-5 win

2 RBI the next day in a 4-2 loss

 

Ithink we'd all love to see more consistency from JBJ. I'm not defending his slumps, but sometimes a hot player can carry a team through a few games, and wins are wins.

 

 

 

 

That's a lot of padding the stats off struggling pitching. No need to preach defense. I get it.

Edited April 9, 2018 by SoxHop