25 Man Roster

[mvp 78]

Brentz cleared waivers and is off the 40 man. It'll be interesting to see who they add to it.

[Spudboy]

Brentz cleared waivers and is off the 40 man. It'll be interesting to see who they add to it.

 

So is Brentz dangling in free agency or do the Sox still own him?

[Fisk]

Brentz cleared waivers and is off the 40 man. It'll be interesting to see who they add to it.

 

I'm going to guess its a minor league reliever like Callahan or Taylor. Should have a second spot open up with Carson Smith not expected back until June they will probably put him on 60 day dl.

[Fisk]

Sox just sent Callahan, Maddux and Sheperd to the minors, so it looks like Ben Taylor made the team and will get that 40 man spot.

[mvp 78]

http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0639529626871272494-4

 

Ben Taylor most likely to be 12th pitcher on opening day.

 

http://soxprospects.com/players/taylor-benjamin.htm

[moonslav59]

So is Brentz dangling in free agency or do the Sox still own him?

 

I think, if and until someone claims him, he's still ours.

 

I predicted this day will come for about 2 years.

 

I was just a little off.

[Slasher9]

Espinoza may get a major league start before Pom Pom gets another.....

[Slasher9]

I think, if and until someone claims him, he's still ours.

 

I predicted this day will come for about 2 years.

 

I was just a little off.

no one claimed him. he's ours.

[mvp 78]

So is Brentz dangling in free agency or do the Sox still own him?

 

He cleared waivers and was outrighted to Pawtucket. Looks like he won't go anywhere.

[mvp 78]

Espinoza may get a major league start before Pom Pom gets another.....

 

Maybe. Padres won't start Espinoza for the next two years. No reason to waste a year of control yet.

[Slasher9]

Maybe. Padres won't start Espinoza for the next two years. No reason to waste a year of control yet.

 

because: Padres?

[mvp 78]

because: Padres?

 

They don't typically rush prospects.

[cp176]

Espinoza may get a major league start before Pom Pom gets another.....

 

Who?

[Fisk]

Steve Selsky wins last roster spot. Imagine they picked him over Hernandez because of ability to play first.

[Kimmi]

Steve Selsky wins last roster spot. Imagine they picked him over Hernandez because of ability to play first.

 

Yup, and I imagine this will be a short term move until Hanley is ready to play the field.

[cp176]

Going to be in recovery mode.

[oldtimer]

Steve Selsky wins last roster spot. Imagine they picked him over Hernandez because of ability to play first.

 

I understand the choice but look forward to Hernandez being brought up soon.

[cp176]

I understand the choice but look forward to Hernandez being brought up soon.

 

I'm like you. I get it - I understand it but will never necessarily buy it as being right. The righty lefty arguement is a very weak one in my mind as well.

[Fisk]

I'm like you. I get it - I understand it but will never necessarily buy it as being right. The righty lefty arguement is a very weak one in my mind as well.

 

I think it had more to do with Selskys ability to play first. When Hanley is ready in the field Selsky will be optioned and Hernandez will be called up. Which supposedly should be the second series of the year.

[Bellhorn04]

For all the Marco Hernandez fans - he was tied for second in AB's on the team this spring. That means they like him a lot and were giving him a long look. I think you'll be seeing plenty of him this season, assuming he keeps producing when his chance comes.

[S5Dewey]

For all the Marco Hernandez fans - he was tied for second in AB's on the team this spring. That means they like him a lot and were giving him a long look. I think you'll be seeing plenty of him this season, assuming he keeps producing when his chance comes.

 

I think and hope you're right. Hernandez gets the award Notin mentioned as being the player whom most people think should have made the opening day roster but didn't.

[Kimmi]

For those who scoffed at the suggestion that ERod start the season in AAA (before the injuries to Price and Pom), sending Hernandez down shows that teams do not and cannot operate under the idea that you play your best 25 players period.

 

For various reasons, the best players do not always make the 25 man roster.

[moonslav59]

I understand the choice but look forward to Hernandez being brought up soon.

 

The problem with that hope is that someone will have to get hurt, traded or suck for Marco to get a true chance.

[cp176]

For those who scoffed at the suggestion that ERod start the season in AAA (before the injuries to Price and Pom), sending Hernandez down shows that teams do not and cannot operate under the idea that you play your best 25 players period.

 

For various reasons, the best players do not always make the 25 man roster.

 

I disagree (obviously). In no way does it show that they cannot operate by having ultimately the best 25 players on their roster. Whether it shows good common sense from a financial contractual standpoint is a different matter. I understand it but I sure don't like to see happen.

[moonslav59]

The theory is sound; put your best team on the 25 man roster and deal with depth issues as they come. I don't disagree with the theory, but I think, in this case, we made the right choice.

 

Pablo is going to play- probably everyday. I'd prefer he platoon, but even with a platoon, I'm not sure Marco is the best choice to play vs LHPs out of Holt, a healthy Rutledge & Marco. So, where does Marco get playing time? Certainly not SS or 2B, and he doesn't play 1B or OF, so I think the choice was right. Besides, keeping depth with players out of options does have value. There may come a point where that value does not outweigh the value of Marco being available everyday off the bench.

 

I'd love nothing more than for Marco to have a major or significant role on the team. I'm such a big fan of Marco that I'm willing to trade Holt to make it happen.

 

As of now, I think the best move is to have Marco play everyday in AAA, until he's needed FT or in a more significant role than he'd have right now.

 

[Kimmi]

I disagree (obviously). In no way does it show that they cannot operate by having ultimately the best 25 players on their roster. Whether it shows good common sense from a financial contractual standpoint is a different matter. I understand it but I sure don't like to see happen.

 

Think of it beyond just the 25 man roster. The best team includes players on the 40 man who have a realistic chance of being called up. You play your best 25 as much as reasonably possible, but you also want the best 40 man or when the inevitable injuries occur.

[oldtimer]

The theory is sound; put your best team on the 25 man roster and deal with depth issues as they come. I don't disagree with the theory, but I think, in this case, we made the right choice.

 

Pablo is going to play- probably everyday. I'd prefer he platoon, but even with a platoon, I'm not sure Marco is the best choice to play vs LHPs out of Holt, a healthy Rutledge & Marco. So, where does Marco get playing time? Certainly not SS or 2B, and he doesn't play 1B or OF, so I think the choice was right. Besides, keeping depth with players out of options does have value. There may come a point where that value does not outweigh the value of Marco being available everyday off the bench.

 

I'd love nothing more than for Marco to have a major or significant role on the team. I'm such a big fan of Marco that I'm willing to trade Holt to make it happen.

 

As of now, I think the best move is to have Marco play everyday in AAA, until he's needed FT or in a more significant role than he'd have right now.

 

 

I don't think it will be long before Marco is brought up. As far as playing, Pedroia should get a rest from time to time and so should Pablo. Marco can do that and pinch hit for now. I'd rather have him on the 25 man roster and consider what we can do with extra players in the trade market.

[moonslav59]

I don't think it will be long before Marco is brought up. As far as playing, Pedroia should get a rest from time to time and so should Pablo. Marco can do that and pinch hit for now. I'd rather have him on the 25 man roster and consider what we can do with extra players in the trade market.

 

Pedey might need a day off every 3-4 weeks, at most.

 

Who would Marco PH for? I just see Leon or Vaz... maybe Moreland.

 

Marco's best shot at significant playing time is for Pablo to fizzle or an IF'er gets hurt.

[cp176]

Think of it beyond just the 25 man roster. The best team includes players on the 40 man who have a realistic chance of being called up. You play your best 25 as much as reasonably possible, but you also want the best 40 man or when the inevitable injuries occur.

 

How can I say this - i agree but! You are right. I get that. I don't like it. there is just something about it that I can't verbalize real well I guess that just doesn't work for me. I think in all reality and I fully admit that I might be wrong - I think that this kid Hernandez is good enough to be a starter for any team in ml baseball at second for sure and perhaps even short. I don't consider him a utility depth piece. I'm glad that we have him but in all honesty I wish that he was playing for someone else so that he would get the opportunity that I truly think he deserves. From a "thinking " perspective, yes its does help when you look at the team in general as being comprised of 40 as opposed to 25.

[moonslav59]

How can I say this - i agree but! You are right. I get that. I don't like it. there is just something about it that I can't verbalize real well I guess that just doesn't work for me. I think in all reality and I fully admit that I might be wrong - I think that this kid Hernandez is good enough to be a starter for any team in ml baseball at second for sure and perhaps even short. I don't consider him a utility depth piece. I'm glad that we have him but in all honesty I wish that he was playing for someone else so that he would get the opportunity that I truly think he deserves. From a "thinking " perspective, yes its does help when you look at the team in general as being comprised of 40 as opposed to 25.

 

I've talked about trading Holt to allow Marco more playing time, but maybe trading an infielder or benching (Pablo) will be his only quicker way to a FT role with the Sox.

 

I wouldn't be surprised, if we end up trading Marco instead. Sad but possible.

 

Bogey and Pablo have 3 years of team control and Pedey has 5.

 

One issue is that Marco's worst non 1B infield position defensively is probably 3B.

 

Another issue is that Devers is viewed as Pablo's replacement, with Pablo possibly moving to 1B or DH as early as next season.

 

If Marco or Pablo could play 1B, Marco would be starting game 1. (Maybe Marco's quickest route, without an injury, is for Pablo to play 1B and Marco 1B.)

 

If Marco could play OF, Holt might have been traded by now.

 

I hope Marco gets a chance soon, but it looks like the only way he gets a legitimate shot with the Sox is if someone gets hurt or implodes.

 

Edited April 3, 2017 by moonslav59