9/28 @ NYY: User Name's? clinch party extraordinaire.

[SoxHop]

wooooooooooooooooooo hoooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[royplayer]

Glad they clinched before this fiasco of a game was over or this loss would have been even more depressing.

[mvp 78]

I'll feel better about this tomorrow morning. Glad they won the division.

[d-money]

Look's like the playoffs will go through texas. Can baltimore or the orioles beat the rangers? Idk. Tigers?

[Maxbialystock]

Like I said earlier, not much doubt the Sox would--now have won--win the ALE. The problem is the Sox going back to finding ways to lose after an 11 game winning streak. Last night it was the rotation, specifically, our $30M putz Price. Tonight it was our putz of a closer who has done exactly the same thing in one previous game--walked a million guys in the 9th. If I'm not mistaken, tonight it was 4 straight. Yes, Kelly gave up the grandslam, but he also got those 2 outs. At any point with all three hitters he faced, a little old single ties the game.

 

And let's not forget that tonight 2 of 3 runs the Sox scored were unearned. Last night Ortiz left 7 guys on base, and tonight Benintendi did exactly the same thing--left 7 guys on. We had 5 hits, one of which was a hard hit double by Pedroia, another a freakish high bouncer double by betts that just missed being a GIDP. So the hitting isn't exactly clicking either.

 

To be honest, Kimbrel was the real issue tonight. 4 walks and a single, 28 pitches (13 strikes), no outs. Tonight kind of reminds me of a couple of earlier outings when Kimbrel came in without a save on the line--the Sox were tied or down 1 run--and Kimbrel would just stink it up. And a bunch of guys would be all over Farrell for making poor Kimbrel go out there in the first place. "Kimbrel should not have to do windows," the cry went forth. "He's a closer, no more, no less. Anything else is mismanagement." Well now we have a new category--Kimbrel should not be sent to the mound for a save unless it's a really important game. My fear is that additional categories--when Kimbrel should not be asked to pitch--await us. Away games, perhaps? Lefty batters? Any batters capable of parking it? Any batters who refuse to swing at wild pitches?

 

The above is exaggeration of course. It was just a bad night for Kimbrel. But it sure pisses me off because he makes such a big show--throwing his arms out like they are wings or something--when he gets ready to pitch--just the polar opposite of Mariano Rivera.

[d-money]

Like I said earlier, not much doubt the Sox would--now have won--win the ALE. The problem is the Sox going back to finding ways to lose after an 11 game winning streak. Last night it was the rotation, specifically, our $30M putz Price. Tonight it was our putz of a closer who has done exactly the same thing in one previous game--walked a million guys in the 9th. If I'm not mistaken, tonight it was 4 straight. Yes, Kelly gave up the grandslam, but he also got those 2 outs. At any point with all three hitters he faced, a little old single ties the game.

 

And let's not forget that tonight 2 of 3 runs the Sox scored were unearned. Last night Ortiz left 7 guys on base, and tonight Benintendi did exactly the same thing--left 7 guys on. We had 5 hits, one of which was a hard hit double by Pedroia, another a freakish high bouncer double by betts that just missed being a GIDP. So the hitting isn't exactly clicking either.

 

To be honest, Kimbrel was the real issue tonight. 4 walks and a single, 28 pitches (13 strikes), no outs. Tonight kind of reminds me of a couple of earlier outings when Kimbrel came in without a save on the line--the Sox were tied or down 1 run--and Kimbrel would just stink it up. And a bunch of guys would be all over Farrell for making poor Kimbrel go out there in the first place. "Kimbrel should not have to do windows," the cry went forth. "He's a closer, no more, no less. Anything else is mismanagement." Well now we have a new category--Kimbrel should not be sent to the mound for a save unless it's a really important game. My fear is that additional categories--when Kimbrel should not be asked to pitch--await us. Away games, perhaps? Lefty batters? Any batters capable of parking it? Any batters who refuse to swing at wild pitches?

 

The above is exaggeration of course. It was just a bad night for Kimbrel. But it sure pisses me off because he makes such a big show--throwing his arms out like they are wings or something--when he gets ready to pitch--just the polar opposite of Mariano Rivera.

 

gutless performance. Him and price will worry me come the playoffs.

[royplayer]

Like I said earlier, not much doubt the Sox would--now have won--win the ALE. The problem is the Sox going back to finding ways to lose after an 11 game winning streak. Last night it was the rotation, specifically, our $30M putz Price. Tonight it was our putz of a closer who has done exactly the same thing in one previous game--walked a million guys in the 9th. If I'm not mistaken, tonight it was 4 straight. Yes, Kelly gave up the grandslam, but he also got those 2 outs. At any point with all three hitters he faced, a little old single ties the game.

 

And let's not forget that tonight 2 of 3 runs the Sox scored were unearned. Last night Ortiz left 7 guys on base, and tonight Benintendi did exactly the same thing--left 7 guys on. We had 5 hits, one of which was a hard hit double by Pedroia, another a freakish high bouncer double by betts that just missed being a GIDP. So the hitting isn't exactly clicking either.

 

To be honest, Kimbrel was the real issue tonight. 4 walks and a single, 28 pitches (13 strikes), no outs. Tonight kind of reminds me of a couple of earlier outings when Kimbrel came in without a save on the line--the Sox were tied or down 1 run--and Kimbrel would just stink it up. And a bunch of guys would be all over Farrell for making poor Kimbrel go out there in the first place. "Kimbrel should not have to do windows," the cry went forth. "He's a closer, no more, no less. Anything else is mismanagement." Well now we have a new category--Kimbrel should not be sent to the mound for a save unless it's a really important game. My fear is that additional categories--when Kimbrel should not be asked to pitch--await us. Away games, perhaps? Lefty batters? Any batters capable of parking it? Any batters who refuse to swing at wild pitches?

 

The above is exaggeration of course. It was just a bad night for Kimbrel. But it sure pisses me off because he makes such a big show--throwing his arms out like they are wings or something--when he gets ready to pitch--just the polar opposite of Mariano Rivera.

 

Koji was money in 2013, why not use him again as closer. It's probably too late in the season for this kind of change, and besides, Farrell is too much of a wimp to do something like like.

[Wade Boggs]

They won the AL East. That's all that matters. The champagne feels good either way.

 

ENJOY BOSTON RED SOX!!!

[d-money]

They won the AL East. That's all that matters. The champagne feels good either way.

 

ENJOY BOSTON RED SOX!!!

 

Yes but i hope farrell still play's the regulars. Also seeding. For some reason i do not want to play the Guardians on tbe road. I want them in our place.

[a700hitter]

Has Kimbrel been sighted at the celebration?

[SoxHop]

Has Kimbrel been sighted at the celebration?

 

who cares....... he got us here......

[moonslav59]

Did SD's GM hide Kimbrel's medicals too. I want a refund!

 

To think we gave up 3 decent prospects for the right to pay him FA market money.

 

No RP'er has ever been worth that much on both ends- prospects and salary.

[Navafan29]

After watching the happy champagne celebration of many uncensored F-bombs, I am feeling more like this clinching night fits this Red Sox team. And here's why: The theme of the Red Sox this year is that they stay consistently good and emotionally strong despite events that should bring them down; all of the heartbreaking losses this year were not enough to make the Red Sox give up, because the Red Sox didn't let anything get to them. Coming off of the near-worst possible way to lose a game tonight, mourning the loss for just enough time to respect that they failed a small battle, but then walking directly towards a champagne celebration is a lot like what they've done all year. Not caring about the past despite how unbelievably stupid some of it was, and realizing that how one handles the present is all that matters, is what this team has done all year. Baseball really does teach life lessons, you know? I'm satisfied with tonight. I'd love to see us have a bunch of awkward games down the last stretch that should mess with our emotional stability, but see us not care and sweep the ALDS anyways.

[SoxHop]

someone please stat me Kibrel's effectiveness compared to other closers in the league.......

 

the guy lets one person on base every inning he is in......... but no one scores........... again........ it's ugly....... but effective.....

[a700hitter]

After watching the happy champagne celebration of many uncensored F-bombs, I am feeling more like this clinching night fits this Red Sox team. And here's why: The theme of the Red Sox this year is that they stay consistently good and emotionally strong despite events that should bring them down; all of the heartbreaking losses this year were not enough to make the Red Sox give up, because the Red Sox didn't let anything get to them. Coming off of the near-worst possible way to lose a game tonight, mourning the loss for just enough time to respect that they failed a small battle, but then walking directly towards a champagne celebration is a lot like what they've done all year. Not caring about the past despite how unbelievably stupid some of it was, and realizing that how one handles the present is all that matters, is what this team has done all year. Baseball really does teach life lessons, you know? I'm satisfied with tonight. I'd love to see us have a bunch of awkward games down the last stretch that should mess with our emotional stability, but see us not care and sweep the ALDS anyways.

Well said, but I can't take too many tight rope acts if we fall off the rope. Thankfully, the players are more resilient than I am.

[SoxHop]

I bet Kimbrel is in the top percentage of closers in the league........... if you all weren't thinking he was going to put this away tonight after looking at his past performance this year........ then I'm not sure you are on the same page of what I have been watching.....

 

s*** happens......... and sometimes at the most inconvenient of times...........

 

stop the drama...

[a700hitter]

who cares....... he got us here......

As mad as i am for him s***ing on the game and the moment, I actually feel bad that he ruined his own moment. Has anyone seen him at the celebration? He needs to put this one behind him.

[SoxHop]

As mad as i am for him s***ing on the game and the moment, I actually feel bad that he ruined his own moment. Has anyone seen him at the celebration? He needs to put this one behind him.

 

No way he does......... this was s*** city for him....

 

I agree..... he needs to bury this ......

[moonslav59]

...I bet Kimbrel is in the top percentage of closers in the league....

 

Well, before tonight's horrendous figures are added in Kimbrel placed tied for 23rd in RP'er WAR (with Ziegler).

 

He's also tied for 23rd in RP'er WHIP at 1.00 (before tonight).

 

21st in RP'er xFIP-

 

31st in RP'er ERA-

[SoxHop]

...I bet Kimbrel is in the top percentage of closers in the league....

 

Well, before tonight's horrendous figures are added in Kimbrel placed tied for 23rd in RP'er WAR (with Ziegler).

 

He's also tied for 23rd in RP'er WHIP at 1.00 (before tonight).

 

21st in RP'er xFIP-

 

31st in RP'er ERA-

 

Hell...... that's not great.......

 

walks to innings pitches was obviously going to be bad........ he lets people on for sure..........

 

Moon..... hit me with save numbers please....

[a700hitter]

...I bet Kimbrel is in the top percentage of closers in the league....

 

Well, before tonight's horrendous figures are added in Kimbrel placed tied for 23rd in RP'er WAR (with Ziegler).

 

He's also tied for 23rd in RP'er WHIP at 1.00 (before tonight).

 

21st in RP'er xFIP-

 

31st in RP'er ERA-

Let's not forget that he had knee surgery during the season. That is a bit of a challenge.

[S5Dewey]

Hey, if you think we are sick over the happenings of the past two days, think about how John Henry feels. He's paying those two clowns.

[a700hitter]

Hey, if you think we are sick over the happenings of the past two days, think about how John Henry feels. He's paying those two clowns.

f*** him that senile old cadaver.

[Youk Of The Nation]

Let's not all blow this out of proportion. Kimbrel hasn't lost in almost a month and hasn't blown a save since May 28th. Everyone has a couple bad appearances a season, and he has had many, many solid appearances this year. It sucks that one of his bad ones was against the Yankees, but in the end, this game had little meaning now that the Sox have clinched.

 

A brief scan of his BR page will tell you all you need to know: He has helped the Red Sox in far more of his appearances than he has hurt them. Far, far more. And that's basically what you need from a bullpen guy. Anyone holding out for season-long ERAs of 0.00 and 100% converted save opportunities is going to be disappointed. If this meltdown had happened in the middle of May, far less people would probably be acting like this was the end of the Sox's chances for ever winning a game ever again. Just relax.

 

Besides, we are all ignoring the real issue here. The blame for tonight rests on the shoulders of UN? for starting the Gamethread, obviously.

[Jack Flap]

Kmibrel has had a solid season. I think many of us expected more after the premium price we paid for him and his residual uber-closer reputation from his days with the Braves. He's not really that guy any more, but he'll be fine. Other than the O's (who may not make it out of the WC game), I don't really see an AL playoff team with a dramatically better closer.

[Maxbialystock]

You only have to watch Kimbrel pitch maybe half a dozen games to know his strengths and weaknesses. His strengths are he has great stuff--a combo of a blazing fastball and a sharp breaking curve--that put him among the AL closer leaders in K's. His one big weakness is control, which puts him among the AL closer leaders in walks. In games I've watched he rarely paints the corners and instead relies on that deadly combo of curve and fastball. His ERA of 3.35 is 3d highest among the top 15 closers in the AL. But he has 30 saves to 2 blown saves, a very good ratio.

[mvp 78]

To think we gave up 3 decent prospects for the right to pay him FA market money.

 

No RP'er has ever been worth that much on both ends- prospects and salary.

 

1 Great prospect

1 ok prospect they sold high on

1 nobody

[Bellhorn04]

f*** him that senile old cadaver.

 

What did he ever do to you, besides spend a ton of money on your ballclub?

[mvp 78]

What did he ever do to you, besides spend a ton of money on your ballclub?

 

The only ownership guy I have mixed feelings on is Tom Werner, because of how horrible NESN is and I don't believe he plays a part in the on field product.

[User Name]

Mojo's stil crappy, but hey, clinch partay!