2016 Yankees Season thread

[jacksonianmarch]

At least a future star has been born. We've needed someone to fill the seats since Jeter left and ARod lost his PEDs. This kid has it

[yankonyankee]

Sox made a statement already with one game to play, crippling the Yankee's chances at the division. The Pinstripes' WC hopes appear shot as well. Jays and O's are still hanging around and are positioned well for the WC spots. It's very possible all 3 AL E. teams make the playoffs. It's been a good race. I have no favorites now that the Yanks appear out of it. may the best team win.

 

Wow. ESPN has a section entitled 'Chalk' devoted to the hyperfinancialization of sport, betting.

Edited September 18, 2016 by yankonyankee

[jacksonianmarch]

The fact that the Yankees have been in the hunt for 6 weeks after publicly giving up on the season has been a nice treat. It's good to see Judge get a shot, sucks he got hurt. But I expect him to run with RF in ST. Sanchez went from a potential star to a star in 41 games. We turned the page from the detritus that we started the year with. Time to play the kids the last 2 weeks and prepare for next year. The rebuild might have been faster than anticipated.

[a700hitter]

The fact that the Yankees have been in the hunt for 6 weeks after publicly giving up on the season has been a nice treat. It's good to see Judge get a shot, sucks he got hurt. But I expect him to run with RF in ST. Sanchez went from a potential star to a star in 41 games. We turned the page from the detritus that we started the year with. Time to play the kids the last 2 weeks and prepare for next year. The rebuild might have been faster than anticipated.

I am hoping that the rebuild has them scraping the bottom of the standings for 5 years.

[jacksonianmarch]

With Tex and Beltran off the books for next yr, they have plenty of money to improve. What I see them doing more than anything is getting under the salary cap while finding out who is good and who isn't. We have an in-system upgrade at 1b in Bird who will be full strength for next yr and under control for the minimum. I think Austin showed enough to stay on the roster. I still think Judge is going to get every opportunity to win the job out of ST. I also think we are going to try hard to deal off Gardner as I think Williams is his eventual replacement with Frazier a half season away. Next yr, Torres and Mateo will be in AA, so within striking distance as well. I think the kids have opened the eyes of NY fans to what a youth movement can bring. Excitement is there for sure. As for prelim for next season...

 

C- Sanchez and McCann

1B- Bird and Austin

2B- Castro

SS- Gregorius

3B- Headley

LF- Williams

CF- Ellsbury

RF- Judge

UTIL- Refsnyder

4th OF- Hicks

13th man- Potentially Romine if McCann slides to near full time DH

[User Name]

In the meantime, dat 4-game sweep tho.

[jacksonianmarch]

The first game was the end of our season. Once they got to Betances and proved him mortal, the team was finished. We have work to do in our rotation. We need to shore up our pen a bit. But the sox showed that a good offense can beat anyone.

[Slasher9]

they are still 5 games ahead of pythagorean. so really they have to make up for a lot more suckage in the offseason. ellsbury lol.

2016 sanchez = 1998 spencer

[moonslav59]

The first game was the end of our season. Once they got to Betances and proved him mortal, the team was finished. We have work to do in our rotation. We need to shore up our pen a bit. But the sox showed that a good offense can beat anyone.

 

Agreed.

 

However, you have a lot to look forward to, something not so easy to think a few months ago.

 

I remember I got a lot of flack for saying the Yanks should and would be "sellers". maybe I said it too early, but it did come true. They did a great job on getting top return on their trades.

 

With Tex and ARod gone next year, they'll be room for additions or more youth.

 

I knew the Ellsbury signing was a mistake. I'm glad you guys made it and not us.

 

Will you guys trade Gardner?

[jacksonianmarch]

I think we should deal away Gardner. He and Ellsbury are redundant, yet Ellsbury is basically untradeable. We have a ready made replacement in Williams, and if that kid shits the bed, Frazier will be ready by mid season. I want a full out youth movement next season. The FA options this offseason suck. And for a team that is in transition and at best is a wild card contender, I think making big money, short term moves is stupid. Let the kids play. After 2017, start moving cashing in some chips and shore up the team before the offseason of all offseasons after 2018

[jacksonianmarch]

they are still 5 games ahead of pythagorean. so really they have to make up for a lot more suckage in the offseason. ellsbury lol.

2016 sanchez = 1998 spencer

 

You do understand how stupid that statement is, right?

[User Name]

With that bat, Sanchez is not long for catching. I bet they move him off the position no later than next year.

[Slasher9]

I think we should deal away Gardner. He and Ellsbury are redundant, yet Ellsbury is basically untradeable. We have a ready made replacement in Williams, and if that kid shits the bed, Frazier will be ready by mid season. I want a full out youth movement next season. The FA options this offseason suck. And for a team that is in transition and at best is a wild card contender, I think making big money, short term moves is stupid. Let the kids play. After 2017, start moving cashing in some chips and shore up the team before the offseason of all offseasons after 2018

 

how many more empty seats will steinbrenners "live with" in 2017?

[Slasher9]

You do understand how stupid that statement is, right?

 

which part. the whole thing?

pythagorean: the yankees are 72-77 according to my man. and it is my opinion that this years yankees team is more like that team.

Spencer. didnt he have like 10 bombs in 60 AB's in 1998? he was the next mickey mantle. and then he turned into a bust? thats my opinion of sanchez. alot of flash in september. quick sign him to a $300MM contract. please.

[jacksonianmarch]

With that bat, Sanchez is not long for catching. I bet they move him off the position no later than next year.

 

I don't see that at all. He is a pretty damn good catcher and with 1b being locked up with Bird, I don't see him moving off position at all. What I could see eventually, maybe after McCann's contract ends, would be a 50/50 split between catcher and DH. The guy is somewhat athletic, but he'd be a terrible OFer and we already have a damn good 1b in Bird

[jacksonianmarch]

which part. the whole thing?

pythagorean: the yankees are 72-77 according to my man. and it is my opinion that this years yankees team is more like that team.

Spencer. didnt he have like 10 bombs in 60 AB's in 1998? he was the next mickey mantle. and then he turned into a bust? thats my opinion of sanchez. alot of flash in september. quick sign him to a $300MM contract. please.

 

Spencer was a 26 year old rookie who was playing in AAA for the third straight season when he got called up. He was never a top prospect. Sanchez has been one of the best catching prospects in baseball for 3 years now and has been a BA top 100 guy since 2014. He came up last yr for a cup of coffee, played about 100 total games in AAA and is up to stay before his 23rd birthday. Also, Spencer had 10HR in 27 games. Sanchez has 16 in 41.

[Bellhorn04]

With Tex and Beltran off the books for next yr, they have plenty of money to improve. What I see them doing more than anything is getting under the salary cap while finding out who is good and who isn't. We have an in-system upgrade at 1b in Bird who will be full strength for next yr and under control for the minimum. I think Austin showed enough to stay on the roster. I still think Judge is going to get every opportunity to win the job out of ST. I also think we are going to try hard to deal off Gardner as I think Williams is his eventual replacement with Frazier a half season away. Next yr, Torres and Mateo will be in AA, so within striking distance as well. I think the kids have opened the eyes of NY fans to what a youth movement can bring. Excitement is there for sure. As for prelim for next season...

 

C- Sanchez and McCann

1B- Bird and Austin

2B- Castro

SS- Gregorius

3B- Headley

LF- Williams

CF- Ellsbury

RF- Judge

UTIL- Refsnyder

4th OF- Hicks

13th man- Potentially Romine if McCann slides to near full time DH

 

Think they make a run at Encarnacion?

[Spudboy]

With that bat, Sanchez is not long for catching. I bet they move him off the position no later than next year.

 

He has 1st base written all over him.

[Meh]

With Tex and Beltran off the books for next yr, they have plenty of money to improve. What I see them doing more than anything is getting under the salary cap while finding out who is good and who isn't. We have an in-system upgrade at 1b in Bird who will be full strength for next yr and under control for the minimum. I think Austin showed enough to stay on the roster. I still think Judge is going to get every opportunity to win the job out of ST. I also think we are going to try hard to deal off Gardner as I think Williams is his eventual replacement with Frazier a half season away. Next yr, Torres and Mateo will be in AA, so within striking distance as well. I think the kids have opened the eyes of NY fans to what a youth movement can bring. Excitement is there for sure. As for prelim for next season...

 

C- Sanchez and McCann

1B- Bird and Austin

2B- Castro

SS- Gregorius

3B- Headley

LF- Williams

CF- Ellsbury

RF- Judge

UTIL- Refsnyder

4th OF- Hicks

13th man- Potentially Romine if McCann slides to near full time DH

 

Hats off to the red sox this series.

 

but in regards to your post...

 

I hope we deal McCann and Gardner. I would not deal them for nothing, but I'm not asking for top prospects back either. I would also deal Romine, sell high while we can. I think Hicks would be the LF before Williams too. I'd love to see what Jon Gray would cost.

 

C: Sanchez

1B: Bird

2B: Castro

SS: DiDi

3B: Headley

LF: Hicks

CF: Ellsbury

RF: Judge

DH: Billy Butler or Carlos Beltran

Bench: Refs, Williams, Higgy, and I guess Torreyes.

 

I hope to see Fraizer get at least half a year in Triple-A. Sign Chapman. If Derek Holland's option is declined, I'd see if we could sign him. I'd also float the idea of trading Tanaka for Bellinger, Calhoun, and Sheffield.

 

I actually think this could be Cashman's greatest off season or most important at least.

[jacksonianmarch]

Dealing Tanaka would be stupid. We're building our offense through the farm, but we don't have the pitching capital to build a dominant rotation without a guy at the top. Tanaka has been a top 4 pitcher in the AL this year. He's our unquestioned ace. Dealing him would be a full out long term rebuild. With the performance of this team after Aug 1, I don't think that's needed

[Sean]

Good to see you havent opened a vein MJ It took 6years but Mr Crunchy is back

[jacksonianmarch]

How you been bud? Long time no chat

[Meh]

Dealing Tanaka would be stupid.

 

I can see that but I just think he'll get hurt or if he doesn't he'll opt out. I'm a huge fan of Bellinger and Sheffield. It's time for Cashman to make some smart trades this off season. He's got some interesting trade chips still around and maybe some surprise ones too.

[moonslav59]

I think we should deal away Gardner. He and Ellsbury are redundant, yet Ellsbury is basically untradeable. We have a ready made replacement in Williams, and if that kid shits the bed, Frazier will be ready by mid season. I want a full out youth movement next season. The FA options this offseason suck. And for a team that is in transition and at best is a wild card contender, I think making big money, short term moves is stupid. Let the kids play. After 2017, start moving cashing in some chips and shore up the team before the offseason of all offseasons after 2018

 

I agree on Gardner, but I'm not sure how much they'll get for him.

 

I agree on the going all out for youth movement and had hoped the Sox took that route when they had their big sell- off. That doesn't prevent them from trying to win in 2017 by signing a couple key players.

 

[jacksonianmarch]

That's the thing, there aren't any key players right now. We need to build our pitching staff and the FA arms suck.

[moonslav59]

That's the thing, there aren't any key players right now. We need to build our pitching staff and the FA arms suck.

 

You could seriously rebuild the pen by signing Chapman or Jansen and then adding someone like Melancon. Adding a decent pitcher like Hellickson couldn't hurt. You could take a flyer on Brett Anderson, but you're right, there really isn't much on the FA market pitching-wise.

 

Maybe you could trade McCann and/or Garnder for a decent #3 slot innings eater- perhaps with a big contract.

[jacksonianmarch]

Moon, we have the pieces in the system currently to build a high end pen. I'd rather develop the pen and develop the offense while acquiring the pitching. The problem is, we can't acquire pitching that isn't available. Who knows, maybe Sheffield or Kaprielian or Montgomery are the answers to our rotation flux after Tanaka. Probably not, though

[Bellhorn04]

I question whether it was the right move for the Yanks to trade Andrew Miller when he is signed through 2018 and is pitching like a machine (a .70 WHIP and a 12.67 K/BB this year).

[Kimmi]

I question whether it was the right move for the Yanks to trade Andrew Miller when he is signed through 2018 and is pitching like a machine (a .70 WHIP and a 12.67 K/BB this year).

 

As well as they have been playing, it does raise the question now. That said, at the time, I think it was the absolute right thing to do.

[Bellhorn04]

As well as they have been playing, it does raise the question now. That said, at the time, I think it was the absolute right thing to do.

 

But I'm not talking about this year. I'm talking about the fact he's under contract for 2017 and 2018.