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I'm with jacksonian.

 

Castillo needs "at-bats." Keep him in the minors until it can be ensured he will get them in majors. I can't believe Vic will make the whole year. SO I expect he'll be up this year.

 

Secondly I wouldn't let Craig sniff the outfield. That should be fine because I can't believe Napoli can play a whole season. Therefore Craig can get some at-bats at 1b and more at-bats on days Papi needs rest/ can't go.

 

JBJ gets his 2nd shot only when Vic/Craig and maybe Nap are gone. Unless of course drastic injuries or big trade.

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I'm with jacksonian.

 

Castillo needs "at-bats." Keep him in the minors until it can be ensured he will get them in majors. I can't believe Vic will make the whole year. SO I expect he'll be up this year.

 

Secondly I wouldn't let Craig sniff the outfield. That should be fine because I can't believe Napoli can play a whole season. Therefore Craig can get some at-bats at 1b and more at-bats on days Papi needs rest/ can't go.

 

JBJ gets his 2nd shot only when Vic/Craig and maybe Nap are gone. Unless of course drastic injuries or big trade.

With a week remaining in Spring Training, Castillo will have close to 40 Spring ABs under his belt. That's enough. $72 million will not be sitting in the minors at age 27.

 

Ortiz's breaks will come during interleague play. Unless he gets injured, he will sit very little in AL DH games.

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With a week remaining in Spring Training, Castillo will have close to 40 Spring ABs under his belt. That's enough. $72 million will not be sitting in the minors at age 27.

 

Ortiz's breaks will come during interleague play. Unless he gets injured, he will sit very little in AL DH games.

Don't remember where I heard that this could be possible... if so, will be a dumb signing. He has to play.

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With a week remaining in Spring Training, Castillo will have close to 40 Spring ABs under his belt. That's enough. $72 million will not be sitting in the minors at age 27.

 

Ortiz's breaks will come during interleague play. Unless he gets injured, he will sit very little in AL DH games.

 

I don't agree with any of this. Forty spring at bats is nothing. Secondly who doesn't play in the outfield if Castillo does? Of course unless someone is hurt - then that is what I said. It's a 162 game season - someone is going to break down. You aren't going to let a guy who has played very little baseball the last year or two just sit on the bench and wait. That's a bigger waste of $72m. Have him play - keep him sharp for the eventual call-up.

 

Ortiz played 142 last year and 137 the year before. I can see him playing more like 135 this year. or at least pull him more often because we can flat out hit this year. Last year we had nothing in temrs of hitting. If he was out - forget it.

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Don't remember where I heard that this could be possible... if so, will be a dumb signing. He has to play.

 

Sure he'll play. The moment someone breaks down or is just miserable. You didn't just get the guy for 1 year. And we're not going anywhere without better pitching anyways. Got to make some trades to get some pitching. Can't do that by sitting players you need to trade.

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Sure he'll play. The moment someone breaks down or is just miserable. You didn't just get the guy for 1 year. And we're not going anywhere without better pitching anyways. Got to make some trades to get some pitching. Can't do that by sitting players you need to trade.

 

I don't know whether he is going to play everyday or not but he should make the 25-roster at least. He shouldn't be in minors, kind of my point.

 

Regarding pitching, totally agree. Don't be surprised if someone replays your post with a 0-162.

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I don't agree with any of this. Forty spring at bats is nothing. Secondly who doesn't play in the outfield if Castillo does? Of course unless someone is hurt - then that is what I said. It's a 162 game season - someone is going to break down. You aren't going to let a guy who has played very little baseball the last year or two just sit on the bench and wait. That's a bigger waste of $72m. Have him play - keep him sharp for the eventual call-up.

 

Ortiz played 142 last year and 137 the year before. I can see him playing more like 135 this year. or at least pull him more often because we can flat out hit this year. Last year we had nothing in temrs of hitting. If he was out - forget it.

 

mmm if he shares the job with the other OFs time to time and makes an internal competition for a spot everyday, I do not see that waste.

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mmm if he shares the job with the other OFs time to time and makes an internal competition for a spot everyday, I do not see that waste.

 

If he is going to share time - sure-- but who is he going to share time with? Ramirez? Nope.

 

Betts? -- Why would you split them when Betts looks so promising? Betts doesn't deserve to split time. He's too good.

 

I agree with Victorino -- but if the guy is hitting .300 like he did 2 years ago -- man that is a tough sell -- he's gonna create problems. We wona title with him. If he is performing - he's gonna be pissed if you deliberately sit him "for potential." I don't know if it is worth it. In this case you trade Victorino imo-- but then again if he is healthy, a terrific defender and hitting why would you want him out of the lineup for an unproven guy? Just because of the money?

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Unless two of our Outfielders get traded or injured in camp, Nava gets DFA'd. Mark it down.

 

Sure, I'll mark down that you've lost your marbles. :D

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Sure, I'll mark down that you've lost your marbles. :D

 

Why wouldn't you DFA cheap, productive players?

 

That's just smart baseball.

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Unless two of our Outfielders get traded or injured in camp, Nava gets DFA'd. Mark it down. Castillo is not sitting in the minors with his $72 million.

 

 

I'm starting to get the sense that Victorino might start the season on the DL. That would solve the problem of what to do with Castillo. However, if Victorino is indeed healthy and on the Opening Day roster, then my bet would be Castillo starting in AAA. If Nava is DFA'd, I will be shocked.

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I'm starting to get the sense that Victorino might start the season on the DL. That would solve the problem of what to do with Castillo. However, if Victorino is indeed healthy and on the Opening Day roster, then my bet would be Castillo starting in AAA. If Nava is DFA'd, I will be shocked.
Victorino did get hurt in the last week of Spring Training. If he is healthy and doesn't get traded, get ready to be shocked. Rusney isn't going down. Neither is Betts. Nava needs Craig to get traded to have a shot at sticking.
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I don't know whether he is going to play everyday or not but he should make the 25-roster at least. He shouldn't be in minors, kind of my point.

 

Regarding pitching, totally agree. Don't be surprised if someone replays your post with a 0-162.

 

No way he should be on the 25 roster unless he is ensured good playing time. You don't bench a talent like him that hasn't played in a year or two. He needs ta bats. Not slivers on the pine.

Did it with Youk - sending him to the minors rather than just sitting on the bench. We'll do it here / should do it here with Castillo.

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I'm starting to get the sense that Victorino might start the season on the DL. That would solve the problem of what to do with Castillo. However, if Victorino is indeed healthy and on the Opening Day roster, then my bet would be Castillo starting in AAA. If Nava is DFA'd, I will be shocked.

 

I'm with you. Comes down to victronio's health. Maybe you keep Castillo IF you are unsure about Victorino and the several weeks you do platoon to see how Victorino is holding up.

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Victorino did get hurt in the last week of Spring Training. If he is healthy and doesn't get traded, get ready to be shocked. Rusney isn't going down. Neither is Betts. Nava needs Craig to get traded to have a shot at sticking.

 

 

Apparently, speculation about Craig being traded is heating up. I am one that hopes he doesn't get traded, but we'll see.

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I'm with you. Comes down to victronio's health. Maybe you keep Castillo IF you are unsure about Victorino and the several weeks you do platoon to see how Victorino is holding up.

 

 

Victorino is starting in 3 consecutive games today, tomorrow, and Monday to see how he holds up. How he comes through these 3 games should give us a clearer picture of what is going to happen.

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Victorino is starting in 3 consecutive games today, tomorrow, and Monday to see how he holds up. How he comes through these 3 games should give us a clearer picture of what is going to happen.

 

Until he pulls up lame again.

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Until he pulls up lame again.

 

 

If he pulls up lame again, then that solves a big "problem" for the Sox. Not that I'm wanting that to happen. Mark me down as being a big Victorino fan, and I hope he is our starting RFer, at least to start the season.

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If he is going to share time - sure-- but who is he going to share time with? Ramirez? Nope.

 

Betts? -- Why would you split them when Betts looks so promising? Betts doesn't deserve to split time. He's too good.

 

I agree with Victorino -- but if the guy is hitting .300 like he did 2 years ago -- man that is a tough sell -- he's gonna create problems. We wona title with him. If he is performing - he's gonna be pissed if you deliberately sit him "for potential." I don't know if it is worth it. In this case you trade Victorino imo-- but then again if he is healthy, a terrific defender and hitting why would you want him out of the lineup for an unproven guy? Just because of the money?

 

 

What has happened this spring to indicate any of those are probable? Possible, I suppose, but likely, I doubt it.

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If he pulls up lame again, then that solves a big "problem" for the Sox. Not that I'm wanting that to happen. Mark me down as being a big Victorino fan, and I hope he is our starting RFer, at least to start the season.

 

 

Too many people are giving me instructions to mark things down. I have sticky notes all over my monitor and can't see half of it.

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I've been a fan of Victorino many years.

 

His time is probably over.

 

 

You're probably right Spud, but I'm pulling for him.

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Too many people are giving me instructions to mark things down. I have sticky notes all over my monitor and can't see half of it.

 

 

LOL Ogden. Sticky notes are a must. Otherwise, I'd never remember half the things I'm supposed to.

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LOL Ogden. Sticky notes are a must. Otherwise, I'd never remember half the things I'm supposed to.

 

 

Like take the sticky notes off one's forehead?

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What has happened this spring to indicate any of those are probable? Possible, I suppose, but likely, I doubt it.

 

1--- Then you don't agree with iortiz when he said Castillo will share time?

 

2--- My guess is if Victorino goes down / gets traded - Castillo will be more than a "share-time player." Do you agree?

 

3--- I do expect Victroino to break down. Until that happens you think Farrell is going to keep Castillo on the bench without at-bats waiting for the probable inevitable of Shane breaking down?

 

4--- Or do you think after say 10 games Castillo and Shane will split near even? Or maybe throw in Betts where they all split even?

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I was very skeptical of Bradley last year because the hype for an unproven player was way over the top (and was probably part of the reason why Jacoby Ellsbury isn't still patrolling center for us which I think will go down in history as a mistake), but I honestly think the kid has some good upside. he's a patient hitter and a great defender in a premium position. I'm going to keep an open mind on Bradley going into the year. He has potential, and I'd hate to discard that just because his first foray into the bigs did not work out for him. At the very least he's going to be a good backup for someone, and I do think he has the ability for more.

 

Having said that I do realize that I said exactly the same things about Che-Hsuan Lin, so it's reasonable to keep expectations modest.

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1--- Then you don't agree with iortiz when he said Castillo will share time?

 

2--- My guess is if Victorino goes down / gets traded - Castillo will be more than a "share-time player." Do you agree?

 

3--- I do expect Victroino to break down. Until that happens you think Farrell is going to keep Castillo on the bench without at-bats waiting for the probable inevitable of Shane breaking down?

 

4--- Or do you think after say 10 games Castillo and Shane will split near even? Or maybe throw in Betts where they all split even?

 

If Victorino can go, he won't be splitting time with anybody. If he can't go, he'll go on the dl. That is the only way Castillo gets a shot early.

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If Victorino can go, he won't be splitting time with anybody. If he can't go, he'll go on the dl. That is the only way Castillo gets a shot early.

 

 

Agreed. Castillo will be playing everyday, whether with the big club or in AAA. It may not be fair or right, but barring injuries or trades, Castillo will be the odd man out to begin the season.

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If Victorino can go, he won't be splitting time with anybody. If he can't go, he'll go on the dl. That is the only way Castillo gets a shot early.

 

I agree. --- Though he could be traded for the right catch also. But I highly doubt that will happen.

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