2014 Roster Projections

[jacksonianmarch]

Badenhop is at most a solid relief prospect and at least a cheap risk. This was a move they had to make

[User Name]

Red Sox fans: "What is Ben the Boob doing? This team needs to build bullpen depth after how thin they looked in the playoffs!"

 

Ben gets a solid, cheap relief arm.

 

Red Sox fans: "What is Ben the Boob doing? That guy sucks, who cares that he's well liked and has good peripherals, go after the expensive guys that f*** up chemistry!"

[Hoplite]

Sox have reportedly talked to the Dodgers about Kemp. That would blow Corey Hart out of the water. Dodgers need pitching (they currently have Josh Beckett slated as their #4 starter). They have four starting outfielders, and Kemp's the only one they can move. I wonder if we can get them interested in Dempster. He was a pretty good starter in the National League from 2008-2012. We could throw in someone we probably won't have a use for, like Mookie Betts. The Dogers would probably eat $30 million or so.

 

Farrell may have alluded to this move the other day.

 

Red Sox Stats ‏@redsoxstats 21 Nov

Farrell on MLBN Radio just said, "Scenario you can see Jackie Bradley in center -- IF -- we add some power to the corner."

 

That would be our righthanded bat. Then Nava would move to first base and we'd only have to find a catcher.

[seabeachfred]

Red Sox fans: "What is Ben the Boob doing? This team needs to build bullpen depth after how thin they looked in the playoffs!"

 

Ben gets a solid, cheap relief arm.

 

Red Sox fans: "What is Ben the Boob doing? That guy sucks, who cares that he's well liked and has good peripherals, go after the expensive guys that f*** up chemistry!"

 

What posts are you reading anyway. I haven't read any such negative comments against Ben, nor have I heard any real derogative comments against the guy. Just comments that hint at maybe we could have done a little more now that the dominoes are starting to fall. And where is the "go after the expensive guys" from. I think you just need to hear yourself speak on this one User. That was a ridiculous comment by you.

[User Name]

What posts are you reading anyway. I haven't read any such negative comments against Ben, nor have I heard any real derogative comments against the guy. Just comments that hint at maybe we could have done a little more now that the dominoes are starting to fall. And where is the "go after the expensive guys" from. I think you just need to hear yourself speak on this one User. That was a ridiculous comment by you.

 

I said "Red Sox fans" not "TalkSox Red Sox fans". Please stop putting words in my mouth. It seems someone likes to hear himself speak all right....

[marklmw]

Sox have reportedly talked to the Dodgers about Kemp. That would blow Corey Hart out of the water. Dodgers need pitching (they currently have Josh Beckett slated as their #4 starter). They have four starting outfielders, and Kemp's the only one they can move. I wonder if we can get them interested in Dempster. He was a pretty good starter in the National League from 2008-2012. We could throw in someone we probably won't have a use for, like Mookie Betts. The Dogers would probably eat $30 million or so.

 

Farrell may have alluded to this move the other day.

 

Red Sox Stats ‏@redsoxstats 21 Nov

Farrell on MLBN Radio just said, "Scenario you can see Jackie Bradley in center -- IF -- we add some power to the corner."

 

That would be our righthanded bat. Then Nava would move to first base and we'd only have to find a catcher.

 

Come on man ... We get Kemp + 4M per year and LA gets Dempster ... I think you have a case of California Dreaming.

[marklmw]

I just did a little research on Kemp's injuries ... man there are many and he might not age well at all. The Dodgers are on the hook for 8 more years at 20M per. They may want to even the score with us for Beckett. My gut says JBJ all the way!

[jung]

I am hoping the Sox are just kicking the tires on Kemp.,,,another broken down vet as far as I am concerned.

[Hoplite]

Come on man ... We get Kemp + 4M per year and LA gets Dempster ... I think you have a case of California Dreaming.

 

This isn't 2011. Dodgers have four starting outfielders and Kemp's the only one they can move. They desperately need starting pitching, and Dempster was a pretty good starting pitcher in the National League, he's probably a #3 on a National League team. We'd also include someone like Mookie Betts to sweeten the deal. He'd immediately become one of the Dodgers top 5 prospects, we could also throw in a minor league starter or Workman. If it took much more, I wouldn't be interested. He's coming off a shoulder surgery and could potentially be a bust.

[User Name]

The Sox would never get Kemp for Dempster + garbage prospects. You're dreaming.

[mvp 78]

Workman and Betts aren't garbage. They aren't good enough to make los Doyers do that trade though.

[User Name]

Workman and Betts aren't garbage. They aren't good enough to make los Doyers do that trade though.

 

Workman is no longer a prospect. Betts isn't that good.

[wyo-sox]

I would not want to see Workman get traded. I think he can become a very solid starter for us.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Workman is no longer a prospect. Betts isn't that good.

 

Not that he would justify the trade, but Betts is much better than you give him credit for. He will be a top 100, potentially top 80 prospect this year. And keep in mind he is younger than Bogaerts and in AA. For as fast as Bogaerts flew through the system, Betts is only a year behind him (should start his 21 year old season in AA).

 

He's not a superstar like Bogaerts but he's certainly a guy who projects to have double digit HR (14-16) and SB (25-30), with very high OBP (.417 OBP last year, 81 BB, 57 K) and at a middle infield position, that's rare.

 

He wouldn't ever be the centerpiece in a blockbuster but he could certainly be an extremely valuable secondary piece.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Sox have reportedly talked to the Dodgers about Kemp. That would blow Corey Hart out of the water. Dodgers need pitching (they currently have Josh Beckett slated as their #4 starter). They have four starting outfielders, and Kemp's the only one they can move. I wonder if we can get them interested in Dempster. He was a pretty good starter in the National League from 2008-2012. We could throw in someone we probably won't have a use for, like Mookie Betts. The Dogers would probably eat $30 million or so.

 

Farrell may have alluded to this move the other day.

 

Red Sox Stats ‏@redsoxstats 21 Nov

Farrell on MLBN Radio just said, "Scenario you can see Jackie Bradley in center -- IF -- we add some power to the corner."

 

That would be our righthanded bat. Then Nava would move to first base and we'd only have to find a catcher.

 

You're much more likely to see a Carlos Beltran or a Corey Hart signing than a trade for Kemp. Both of those would be short term deals which the Sox are much more geared towards, which would add pop to the corners (Hart reportedly has lost a good deal of weight and is able to play the OF, particularly at Fenway)

[BSN07]

Not sure I see them going after Kemp. But for conversation sake let's say they did,

 

Kemp (14:$21M, 15:$21M, 16-19:$21.5M annually or 6/128M) for Dempster( 1/13.25M)+Gomes(1/5M) as the base of the deal. LAD takes on both Sox players contracts plus 30M of Kemp. Sox get Kemp for 6/98M. LAD Takes on 48M a Mid rotation SP on a short deal, 4th OF on short deal and most likely a SP prospect.

 

Yes obviously the could just sign Ells for around that(maybe) but Kemp isn't only replacing Ells, he would be replacing some RHH power in the line up. I could see them moving him to LF as well and going with JBJ in CF with Nava being the fall back option.

[mvp 78]

Hahaha, the Dodgers would block Ben's number if he offered that slop.

[User Name]

Not that he would justify the trade, but Betts is much better than you give him credit for. He will be a top 100, potentially top 80 prospect this year. And keep in mind he is younger than Bogaerts and in AA. For as fast as Bogaerts flew through the system, Betts is only a year behind him (should start his 21 year old season in AA).

 

He's not a superstar like Bogaerts but he's certainly a guy who projects to have double digit HR (14-16) and SB (25-30), with very high OBP (.417 OBP last year, 81 BB, 57 K) and at a middle infield position, that's rare.

 

He wouldn't ever be the centerpiece in a blockbuster but he could certainly be an extremely valuable secondary piece.

 

Every player in the Red Sox system is apparently better than i give them credit for, per your assessment. I'll keep that in mind. (This is meant to be a joke btw)

[SoxFanForsyth]

Any deal for Kemp would start with Cecchini + Ranaudo/Barnes, and would involve the Sox taking about 75% of his salary I would guess.

 

The Sox may be able to dump Dempster on them, though, as part of the deal

[Spitball]

I am hoping the Sox can buy low on Cincinnati catcher Ryan Hanigan. The guy is from Andover and a well kept secret coming off an injury filled season. Forget the hype for Yadier Molina, this guy is the best defensive catcher in baseball. Plus, outside of last season when he was hurt, he has been a decent offensive catcher.

 

Hanigan and Ross would give the Sox a great catching combo while Christian Vazquez develops. Cincinnati needs to move Hanigan to give former top prospect Mesoraco a chance to develop so he should not cost much in the way of prospects.

[Dojji]

Any deal for Kemp would start with Cecchini + Ranaudo/Barnes, and would involve the Sox taking about 75% of his salary I would guess.

 

I honestly doubt it. Cecchini is fir quality players in their prime without bloated contracts. Kemp fails 2 of those standards.

[Behindenemylines]

Kemp has a lot of $$$$$ left for six more seasons. I can't see the Sox getting involved in this unless the Dodgers eat a lot of salary. If they were going to invest that much in a CF why not just keep Ellsbury. The Sox are just kicking tires here. Still see them signing a right handed CF with a solid glove to platoon with JBJ.

[SoxSport]

Any deal for Kemp would start with Cecchini + Ranaudo/Barnes, and would involve the Sox taking about 75% of his salary I would guess.

 

The Sox may be able to dump Dempster on them, though, as part of the deal

 

Dempster dump might seal the deal--if Ells leaves.

 

I'm still leery about Kemp, who can't seem to stay healthy anymore.

[SoxSport]

I am hoping the Sox can buy low on Cincinnati catcher Ryan Hanigan. The guy is from Andover and a well kept secret coming off an injury filled season. Forget the hype for Yadier Molina, this guy is the best defensive catcher in baseball. Plus, outside of last season when he was hurt, he has been a decent offensive catcher.

 

Hanigan and Ross would give the Sox a great catching combo while Christian Vazquez develops. Cincinnati needs to move Hanigan to give former top prospect Mesoraco a chance to develop so he should not cost much in the way of prospects.

 

Hanigan makes a lot of sense. The importance of catcher defense hit the FO right between the eyes in the playoffs.

[Behindenemylines]

Hanigan makes a lot of sense. The importance of catcher defense hit the FO right between the eyes in the playoffs.

 

Reds didn't get a lot of offence from Hanigan last year. Though it would be an upgrade with the D, I think this is a Plan C in case the catching market dries up quickly. As soon as McCann signs the rest of the FA catchers will quickly follow and if the Sox can't grab someone then Hanigan would become an option.

[Spitball]

Reds didn't get a lot of offence from Hanigan last year. Though it would be an upgrade with the D, I think this is a Plan C in case the catching market dries up quickly. As soon as McCann signs the rest of the FA catchers will quickly follow and if the Sox can't grab someone then Hanigan would become an option.

 

Hanigan was injured much of last season with a sprained wrist and a strained oblique. Coupled with the Reds' desire to develop former number one pick Devin Mesaroca, Hanigan didn't get on track offensively last season. Before last season though, he had an impressive .369 OBP.

[seabeachfred]

Not that he would justify the trade, but Betts is much better than you give him credit for. He will be a top 100, potentially top 80 prospect this year. And keep in mind he is younger than Bogaerts and in AA. For as fast as Bogaerts flew through the system, Betts is only a year behind him (should start his 21 year old season in AA).

 

He's not a superstar like Bogaerts but he's certainly a guy who projects to have double digit HR (14-16) and SB (25-30), with very high OBP (.417 OBP last year, 81 BB, 57 K) and at a middle infield position, that's rare.

 

He wouldn't ever be the centerpiece in a blockbuster but he could certainly be an extremely valuable secondary piece.

 

Betts looks like he might be a real comer, but if second base is his only real position there is no room for him on the Red Sox because we have a second baseman who is pretty darn good and signed for the next seven to eight years. However, it might take more than Betts and a pitcher to land a top notch player but he could be part of a nice package. I just don't think it should be for Kemp. He looks pretty fragile and broken down right now.

[seabeachfred]

Any deal for Kemp would start with Cecchini + Ranaudo/Barnes, and would involve the Sox taking about 75% of his salary I would guess.

 

The Sox may be able to dump Dempster on them, though, as part of the deal

 

For Cecchini and Renaudo???? NO DEAL!!!!!!! Kemp is too expensive, too injury prone and we don't want to pull a blockbuster salary dump trade in reverse with that outfit. If we need a good outfielder resign Ellsbury.

[User Name]

If one of the main reasons why people don't want the Sox to spend big money on Jacoby Ellsbury is his problematic injury history, why would it be a good idea to spend big money AND prospects for a guy with a worse injury history? Riddle me that.

[seabeachfred]

If one of the main reasons why people don't want the Sox to spend big money on Jacoby Ellsbury is his problematic injury history, why would it be a good idea to spend big money AND prospects for a guy with a worse injury history? Riddle me that.

 

Don't ask me-----I never wanted Kemp in the first place.