How much longer will the Sox play without a legit 3B?

[marklmw]

Holt was 0-3 last night and batting .212. How much longer do we have to play with only 8 players in the line-up?

[Dojji]

They're not going to rush Bogaerts, and WMB hasn't proven he's back from wherever he went this May. We're not overburdened with options right now.

[SoxFanForsyth]

They're not going to rush Bogaerts, and WMB hasn't proven he's back from wherever he went this May. We're not overburdened with options right now.

 

They wouldn't be rushing Bogaerts. He's got 217 PA in AAA this year and has a .291 average with an .856 OPS. It doesn't happen often, but sometimes there are prospects who are ready really really early in their career. Bryce Harper. Mike Trout. Giancarlo Stanton. Manny Machado.

 

Xander Bogaerts fits into that mold.

 

The point is, we've got two options in AAA right now that are hands down better than the 3B we're playing with. And one of them (Snyder) is supposed to be up here to face LHP, and he's not even doing THAT at this point.

 

There's absolutely zero reason that Bogaerts or Middlebrooks isn't up here right now. Brock Holt played a total of 7 games at 3B in his career before being called up to play 3B for the Sox, so don't give me the "his defense needs seasoning" because he's got just as much time at 3B as Holt did.

[Dojji]

They're rushing him if they move him up at any time before they're convinced he's ready. He's gotta be close, and it could definitely work out anyway, but a rush job is still a rush job.

[Jasonbay44]

Even bringing back WMB at this point would be an upgrade. WMB at least hit a homer every once in a while and his defense was better than Snyder/Holt.

[dupree]

Middlebrooks will be up and playing 3B before too long. Im guessing Xander will be a 40man roster addition. And if WMB struggles and if Drew stays hot it will be Drew and Xander on the left side. And if WMB is simmering hott and is atleast hitting and Nap is still swing and missing he could side over to 1st and give Nap a break from time to time.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Even bringing back WMB at this point would be an upgrade. WMB at least hit a homer every once in a while and his defense was better than Snyder/Holt.

 

Exactly. I mean, I would like to see Bogaerts because he's the shiny new toy, but I'd be perfectly satisfied with Middlebrooks. Just get someone up here who at least threatens to hit the baseball.

[SoxSport]

Cafardo just said on MLB TV the players would like to see Middlebrooks back. It's almost a no brainer that he or Bogaerts should be playing 3B. It's not unusual for the FO to be slower coming around than others. Maybe they're waiting for the roof to fall in. The cracks are showing.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Plus, to be fair, Middlebrooks is starting to heat up. He's hitting .299/.353/.468 in his last 20 games with 3 HR and 4 2B.

[Jasonbay44]

Plus, to be fair, Middlebrooks is starting to heat up. He's hitting .299/.353/.468 in his last 20 games with 3 HR and 4 2B.

I'm honestly surprised he hasn't been called up already. As bad as Middlebrooks was, he still somehow was more productive than Snyder and Holt and WMB is showing something in the minors while our major league 3B continue to suck ass. Snyder is so bad he has an OBP lower than WMB right now.

[jung]

The Sox will eventually have to bring WMB back in order to see if he can hit ML pitching anyway. You don't see enough if any of the kind of pitching sequences at AAA that get WMB in the kind of trouble he was in here. You just don't. He says he is doing better cause he is seeing more FB's. Is he seeing more FB's simply because you are always going to see more FB's in AAA or because he is laying off s*** pitches to hit? Ultimately there is only one place to go to figure that out and it isn't Pawtucket and sure as hell is not Portsmouth.

[seabeachfred]

Cafardo just said on MLB TV the players would like to see Middlebrooks back. It's almost a no brainer that he or Bogaerts should be playing 3B. It's not unusual for the FO to be slower coming around than others. Maybe they're waiting for the roof to fall in. The cracks are showing.

 

The front office is either in a trance or they are in denial. The fact is the Snyder-Holt tandem is nothing short of s***** at third base for us. Middlebrooks would at least give us some power and run production, something we're getting nothing of the sort from those other two journeymen. Besides, wasn't Snyder supposed to play third against LH's Well now he's not and Holt is going against all types of pitching and hitting crappy. OK, we need Holt to play second in an emergency but we don't need Snyder in Boston if he's not going to play. Bring back Middlebrooks to play there and give the potential of some power before the roof falls in on us.. This is a close race we're in and we have to have the best men playing those positions as well as those who pitch. Time for the front office to wake up on this.

[Lord Snow]

I'm honestly surprised he hasn't been called up already. As bad as Middlebrooks was, he still somehow was more productive than Snyder and Holt and WMB is showing something in the minors while our major league 3B continue to suck ass. Snyder is so bad he has an OBP lower than WMB right now.

 

I think it has a lot to do with Bogaerts. He has been better than Middlebrooks this year. They probably don't want to wreck Middlebrooks' confidence by calling him and letting him play 3rd for a week, and then demoting him in favor of Bogaerts if he struggles. Or they can leave Middlebrooks in the minors until September and call up Bogaerts until then. I think that would be the safer play.

[Behindenemylines]

I think the Holt-Synder platoon is coming to an end. They have both come back to earth and the time to bring up WMB or Bogaerts is near. With WMB there is always the threat to go yard, and with Bogaerts you could get what the O's got out of their kid 3B.

[marklmw]

The front office is either in a trance or they are in denial. The fact is the Snyder-Holt tandem is nothing short of s***** at third base for us. Middlebrooks would at least give us some power and run production, something we're getting nothing of the sort from those other two journeymen. Besides, wasn't Snyder supposed to play third against LH's Well now he's not and Holt is going against all types of pitching and hitting crappy. OK, we need Holt to play second in an emergency but we don't need Snyder in Boston if he's not going to play. Bring back Middlebrooks to play there and give the potential of some power before the roof falls in on us.. This is a close race we're in and we have to have the best men playing those positions as well as those who pitch. Time for the front office to wake up on this.

 

I think you hit it on the head ... The Sox Front Office is in a trance. Sox should have had WM or XB replacing Snyder for the KC Series. Losing 2 straight to KC is unacceptable.

[Bellhorn04]

The really strange thing is that they didn't even start Snyder against the lefty Chen.

[SoxSport]

The Globe said the same this morning--Middlebrooks is hitting .316 his last 10 games, and he should be brought up.

Everybody's been saying this lately, including some of the players (from Cafardo). Now we know that Ben is a bit sleepy, but there are others in the FO, too. Are they just obstinate?

[SoxSport]

I think it has a lot to do with Bogaerts. He has been better than Middlebrooks this year. They probably don't want to wreck Middlebrooks' confidence by calling him and letting him play 3rd for a week, and then demoting him in favor of Bogaerts if he struggles. Or they can leave Middlebrooks in the minors until September and call up Bogaerts until then. I think that would be the safer play.

 

Middlebrooks is a lot easier to bring up right now--he's on the 40 man roster. And he's better defensively at 3B than Bogaerts. Why mess up Bogaerts playing 3B? He's their SS next year. They are playing guys out of position, and it's hurting them defensively.

[Bellhorn04]

It's a conundrum. Chad Finn is one of the most level-headed of the Boston sportswriters, and he has been pleading with them to bring up Bogaerts.

 

Surely we're down to the final days of Snyder...as in 1, 2 or 3 more days.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Middlebrooks is a lot easier to bring up right now--he's on the 40 man roster. And he's better defensively at 3B than Bogaerts. Why mess up Bogaerts playing 3B? He's their SS next year. They are playing guys out of position, and it's hurting them defensively.

 

Because Bogaerts has a .376 OBP and Middlebrooks has a .327. That's a massive difference.

 

I am definitely a huge proponent of bringing up Bogaerts and would prefer him over WMB in a second, but just bring SOMEONE up.

[marklmw]

Because Bogaerts has a .376 OBP and Middlebrooks has a .327. That's a massive difference.

 

I am definitely a huge proponent of bringing up Bogaerts and would prefer him over WMB in a second, but just bring SOMEONE up.

 

I thought for sure that after 2 straight loses to KC that I would go to MLB transactions this morning and see that Bogaerts has been optioned and Synder sent down. No such luck. Is it possible that the Sox loose a year of control over Bogaerts if they bring him up now. Even if so, bring him up. Get him ready for the post season.

[Spitball]

I don't think there is reason to panic because the Sox have lost two straight to Kansas City, one of the hottest teams in baseball right now. I do believe there will be a move made eventually, but I don't think the Holt/Snyder combo is destroying the offense.

[Jasonbay44]

Its not panic, its a fact that Snyder and Holt both suck and WMB or Boegarts needed to be called up. Glad to see the Sox finally make a move after weeks of literally getting nothing from 3B, not even solid defense.

[SoxSport]

No longer. Middlebrooks is in the Red Sox lineup tonite, batting 9th.

[Spitball]

No longer. Middlebrooks is in the Red Sox lineup tonite, batting 9th.

 

http://www.csnne.com/baseball-boston-red-sox/red-sox-call-middlebrooks-snyder-dl

[mvp 78]

So a guy hitting under .200 is legitimate? Low standards. Like 2AM at the Cask N Flagon.

[Bellhorn04]

So a guy hitting under .200 is legitimate? Low standards. Like 2AM at the Cask N Flagon.

 

So because he hit under .200 for 53 games he's done?

[mvp 78]

So because he hit under .200 for 53 games he's done?

 

I never said that.

[Bellhorn04]

I never said that.

 

Well, you said he wasn't legitimate because he's hitting under .200.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

How does that translate into him being done?