Trades before the deadline?

[User Name]

If the last name doesn't start with B and the player is a positional prospect, it's unlikely Amaro doesn't laugh and hang up the phone. He doesn't need to trade Lee.

[Standing Room]

This isn't really on topic, but Jose Conteras has struck out 7 batters in his first 3.2 innings with Pawtucket. His overall numbers this year:

 

27 IP, 1.33 ERA, .089 WHIP, 3.0 BB/9, 11.3 K/9

[Standing Room]

If the last name doesn't start with B and the player is a positional prospect, it's unlikely Amaro doesn't laugh and hang up the phone. He doesn't need to trade Lee.

 

Bryce Brentz is is. Amaro will really like him, he has two B's!

[User Name]

Bryce Brentz is is. Amaro will really like him, he has two B's!

 

But he's not top five. Nice try though.

[Standing Room]

But he's not top five. Nice try though.

 

You said if we offered a positional prospect whose name doesn't start with B, Amaro would hang up the phone. Bryce Brentz is a positional prospect and his name has two B's, I think Amaro will really like him.

[SoxFanForsyth]

If the last name doesn't start with B and the player is a positional prospect, it's unlikely Amaro doesn't laugh and hang up the phone. He doesn't need to trade Lee.

 

Keith Law had Cecchini and Bradley at 20 and 25 on his midseason ranking. So according to him, Cecchini has surpassed Bradley.

[Standing Room]

Keith Law had Cecchini and Bradley at 20 and 25 on his midseason ranking. So according to him, Cecchini has surpassed Bradley.

 

Yeah, if Amaro hangs up the phone because we offer Cecchini instead of Bradley, it's just a personal preference. I think it's great people are this high on Cecchini, his stock is sky high right now.

[Palodios]

Cecchini + Ranaudo + 1 is probably the best Amaro will get. There are only a handful of teams who would be able to spend the huge money and give up two top 50 prospects.

[SoxFanForsyth]

The +1 would almost certainly be a Rule 5 guy (Almanzar?)

[Standing Room]

Cecchini + Ranaudo + 1 is probably the best Amaro will get. There are only a handful of teams who would be able to spend the huge money and give up two top 50 prospects.

 

That is very true. And a package of Cecchini and Ranaudo is probably the equivalent of two top 3 prospects on the other teams that are interested and could afford Lee.

[seabeachfred]

Cecchini + Ranaudo + 1 is probably the best Amaro will get. There are only a handful of teams who would be able to spend the huge money and give up two top 50 prospects.

 

In my opinion Pal, Cecchini is now our best prospect. He is a solid hitter in the line of Wade Boggs, a line drive, gap power man. I'm not predicting he will be as good as Boggs was but this kid can hit consistently and has a quick bats, great hands, and looks like he can hit left handed pitching, which to me is a pre-requisite for any left handed hitter to hit well in the Big Leagues. He is one guy we must NOT trade.

[Standing Room]

In my opinion Pal, Cecchini is now our best prospect. He is a solid hitter in the line of Wade Boggs, a line drive, gap power man. I'm not predicting he will be as good as Boggs was but this kid can hit consistently and has a quick bats, great hands, and looks like he can hit left handed pitching, which to me is a pre-requisite for any left handed hitter to hit well in the Big Leagues. He is one guy we must NOT trade.

 

Hahahahaha

 

You kill me Freddy.

[SoxFanForsyth]

I can certainly see Cecchini being our 2nd best hitting prospect, but he doesn't sniff Bogaert's jock

[SoxSport]

Time for some of those prospects to be in Boston. Iggy and Bradley gave the Sox a boost starting the season. Time for another boost.

[Dojji]

I can certainly see Cecchini being our 2nd best hitting prospect, but he doesn't sniff Bogaert's jock

 

Well now it depends on what you mean by hitting.

 

If I had to pick which guy is the best bet to get to 50 HR's at some point in his career, it's definitely Bogaerts.

 

Which one has the best chance to win a batting title or put up a .400+ OBP? Cecchini. No question. That level of consistency is just as valuable as the long bombers -- it's what Youk did when he was at his peak, and he was one of the best in baseball while he was doing it. I see little reason to doubt that a kid with a AA OBP of .421 can translate a lot of that to the bigs. SBF has a valid point here.

 

The idea of having one of Bogaerts and Cecchini at third, and the other at first, makes me somewhat giddy. Both of them are EXCELLENT bets to translate their skills to the big leagues too. Much moreso than, say, Will Middlebrooks.

 

And if Bogaerts could stick at short, and those two could be the left side of our infield with Iglesias as the utility guy, then holy hallelujah.

Edited July 27, 2013 by Dojji

[MJantomaso]

This team needs a bat and bullpen help now! Lately if the other team puts up 3 runs I get extremely worried. Not to mention we have been blanked 3 times in the last nine games.

[Dojji]

This team needs a bat and bullpen help now! Lately if the other team puts up 3 runs I get extremely worried. Not to mention we have been blanked 3 times in the last nine games.

 

I don't think there's a single team out of the 30 in MLB that doesn't need a bat and bullpen help.

 

It's like another pass rusher in football, or another third line scorer in hockey. There are certain things you can spend your entire wealth chasing after and never have enough to meet your ideal needs.

[Bellhorn04]

This team needs a bat and bullpen help now! Lately if the other team puts up 3 runs I get extremely worried. Not to mention we have been blanked 3 times in the last nine games.

 

We've run into some very good starters. The way the Rays shut us down probably carried over into last night's game. We've still got a very good offence. I think Drew's days in the everyday lineup are just about over.

 

Pitching is the real need.

[MJantomaso]

I don't think there's a single team out of the 30 in MLB that doesn't need a bat and bullpen help.

 

It's like another pass rusher in football, or another third line scorer in hockey. There are certain things you can spend your entire wealth chasing after and never have enough to meet your ideal needs.

 

We've lost 3 back end bullpen guys for the year. Do not downplay the fact that we are in need for bullpen help.

[Bellhorn04]

We've lost 3 back end bullpen guys for the year. Do not downplay the fact that we are in need for bullpen help.

 

We do have a lot of internal possibilities though...Britton has looked pretty good...Workman, Contreras...who really knows if these guys can't do just as well as an expensive rental?

[Orange Juiced]

Well now it depends on what you mean by hitting.

 

If I had to pick which guy is the best bet to get to 50 HR's at some point in his career, it's definitely Bogaerts.

 

Which one has the best chance to win a batting title or put up a .400+ OBP? Cecchini. No question. That level of consistency is just as valuable as the long bombers -- it's what Youk did when he was at his peak, and he was one of the best in baseball while he was doing it. I see little reason to doubt that a kid with a AA OBP of .421 can translate a lot of that to the bigs. SBF has a valid point here.

 

The idea of having one of Bogaerts and Cecchini at third, and the other at first, makes me somewhat giddy. Both of them are EXCELLENT bets to translate their skills to the big leagues too. Much moreso than, say, Will Middlebrooks.

 

And if Bogaerts could stick at short, and those two could be the left side of our infield with Iglesias as the utility guy, then holy hallelujah.

 

Yeah, that would be sweet. No reason Bogaerts couldn't stay at short, at least for a half-dozen years, before they'd need to think about moving him. Him and Cecchini could be a very potent left side of the infield. If the Sox could get a masher at 1b, what a complete infield they'd have including Pedey.

[User Name]

Well now it depends on what you mean by hitting.

 

If I had to pick which guy is the best bet to get to 50 HR's at some point in his career, it's definitely Bogaerts.

 

Which one has the best chance to win a batting title or put up a .400+ OBP? Cecchini. No question. That level of consistency is just as valuable as the long bombers -- it's what Youk did when he was at his peak, and he was one of the best in baseball while he was doing it. I see little reason to doubt that a kid with a AA OBP of .421 can translate a lot of that to the bigs. SBF has a valid point here.

 

The idea of having one of Bogaerts and Cecchini at third, and the other at first, makes me somewhat giddy. Both of them are EXCELLENT bets to translate their skills to the big leagues too. Much moreso than, say, Will Middlebrooks.

 

And if Bogaerts could stick at short, and those two could be the left side of our infield with Iglesias as the utility guy, then holy hallelujah.

 

You're thoroughly cherry-picking ideas here. Bogaerts is the more complete hitter by a lot, and scouts rate all of his offensive tools as better (power, contact, speed) or similar (plate discipline, which has steadily improved) to Cecchini. He is the better offensive prospect, and it is not close.

[Standing Room]

Bogaerts is the better prospect and it's not even close. Cecchini is a slightly better contact hitter and has slightly better plate discipline (Bogaerts is walking more as a younger player at a more advanced level). Bogaerts does everything else significantly better: hitting for power, playing defense, running the bases.

[User Name]

I've seen scouting reports that present Cecchini's hit tool as 40/70 (present/future) but Bogaerts as 45/75 (even though he was graded as a 30/50 last year in some outlets). So he's improved to the point where some consider him to have better contact skills both present and future.

[Standing Room]

I've seen scouting reports that present Cecchini's hit tool as 40/70 (present/future) but Bogaerts as 45/75 (even though he was graded as a 30/50 last year in some outlets). So he's improved to the point where some consider him to have better contact skills both present and future.

 

Were those scouting reports before or after Cecchini hit .345 this year?

[User Name]

Some of them are current, as close as June. Remember that scouts usually write up these 20-80 scale ratings based on what they see from players personally over a SSS. Maybe they just think that overall Bogaerts has both better tools and a similar approach. I'm not a scout, so i can't explain the exact thought process.

[a700hitter]

From MLBTraderumors.com:

Orioles In Mix for Jake Peavy

By Aaron Steen [July 27 at 10:33pm CST]

 

The Orioles are involved in talks for the White Sox's Jake Peavy and other top starting pitchers and are pondering a "major move," according to Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com reports. We've heard previously that the O's may not have room in the payroll for another deal, but with the club locked in a pennant race with the Red Sox and Rays, owner Peter Angelos may have given the club the greenlight to spend.

 

In previous talks, Baltimore hasn't shown a willingness to include top prospects like Kevin Gausman or Jonathan Schoop. However, Baltimore's willingness to include prospect Nicky Delmonico in a trade for reliever Francisco Rodriguez could indicate that the team is serious and willing to make moves for the short-term.

 

Along with Peavy, the Royals' Ervin Santana and the Astros' Bud Norris are available, Heyman notes, while the Phillies have indicated they'll consider offers for Cliff Lee. However, it's not clear whether the Orioles would boost their payroll, already at $92MM, by another $25MM to accommodate Lee.

[italstallianion]

I wonder if the Orioles have the prospects to make those deals since they already lost Delmonico and weren't wanting to move Gausman/Schoop.

[Behindenemylines]

White Sox will try to get as many teams as possible interested in Peavy to jack up the price. Every report you read you see another team in the hunt.

[seabeachfred]

Well now it depends on what you mean by hitting.

 

If I had to pick which guy is the best bet to get to 50 HR's at some point in his career, it's definitely Bogaerts.

 

Which one has the best chance to win a batting title or put up a .400+ OBP? Cecchini. No question. That level of consistency is just as valuable as the long bombers -- it's what Youk did when he was at his peak, and he was one of the best in baseball while he was doing it. I see little reason to doubt that a kid with a AA OBP of .421 can translate a lot of that to the bigs. SBF has a valid point here.

 

The idea of having one of Bogaerts and Cecchini at third, and the other at first, makes me somewhat giddy. Both of them are EXCELLENT bets to translate their skills to the big leagues too. Much moreso than, say, Will Middlebrooks.

 

And if Bogaerts could stick at short, and those two could be the left side of our infield with Iglesias as the utility guy, then holy hallelujah.

 

Dojii, I gave myself a couple of days to cool off after some of the comments came my way but I think I know where they're coming from. It is just my opinion that Cecchini will hit for a higher average over the course of his career, which I hope is nowhere but in Boston, while Boegarts no doubt will be a Hanley Ramirez clubber with good power and run production and also hit for a decent average. One thing is certain from where I sit, we must NOT trade either of those guys.