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Bard had a rough outing again today:

 

It looks like the winter off didn't help him reset anything. He's just as lost now as was in September.

 

Bard said he's about where he was a couple years ago in the bullpen. Velocity is back. Command is about the same. Never great.

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Sweeney has announced that he will not take a minor league assignment from the Sox. So Sweeney who is not on the 40 man yet has already thrown down the gauntlet. Ya' want your double AA kid to play for the big club and gain the marketing sizzle from that move....not over my hump.

 

Another one of the Diva Sox.

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Bard said he's about where he was a couple years ago in the bullpen. Velocity is back. Command is about the same. Never great.
I think Bard has a hard time being objective about his performance. After his last start last season before he was sent down to the minors, he thought he just needed to make some adjustments before his next start. He had completely imploded as a starter, but he thought he just needed some tinkering.
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I think Bard has a hard time being objective about his performance. After his last start last season before he was sent down to the minors, he thought he just needed to make some adjustments before his next start. He had completely imploded as a starter, but he thought he just needed some tinkering.

 

I agree, I seem to remember him stating that he didn't pitch long enough as a starter to call it a failure.

 

Of course it's tough to get into someone's head. He could just be trying to be positive instead of whining and it doesn't come across well.

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I have to say Sweeney is not one of my favorites to don the Sox uniform.

 

Is it because he has as many hr's in a Sox uni as I do?

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Sweeney has tossed his name in the "all time stupid move" hat more than once in his short Boston career. He has not done much to endear himself to Sox fans during a pretty tough stretch. On the other hand none of these ballplayers want to tread water in this era...See Bard and comments about the success of failure of his starting stint. The money that is at stake is just too great.
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Sweeney has tossed his name in the "all time stupid move" hat more than once in his short Boston career. He has not done much to endear himself to Sox fans during a pretty tough stretch. On the other hand none of these ballplayers want to tread water in this era...See Bard and comments about the success of failure of his starting stint. The money that is at stake is just too great.

 

In all fairness, the hat you are referring to is relatively selective. I don't think breaking your hand in passion over an AB goes into the same hat as say... shooting yourself in the leg while cleaning your gun.

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In fairness to you, he about 350 more ABs than you have in a Red Sox uniform.

 

:lol:

 

Ya I'm not gonna be too upset if/when they cut him. I find Nava to be a much more useful player.

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If he weren't in a contract year, I would be a bit surprised if Ells missed a couple of months with this bad heel. Even so, I will not be surprised if he misses a couple of weeks.

 

I wonder when the hell "egg shell skull" Drew makes it back to the lineup. I hope Iggy hits the s*** out of the ball and makes Drew irrelelvant. One Drew was enough for this Red Sox fan. At least JD was a top performer when he played.

 

Ortiz can sit back and work on being health for his 2014 contract year. No rush.

 

Here's a tip for Sox fans. Make sure that you have a big jar of lube ready for Youkilis's and Overbay's ABs against us next week. It will cut down on the bleeding and soreness.

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I wonder when the hell "egg shell skull" Drew makes it back to the lineup. I hope Iggy hits the s*** out of the ball and makes Drew irrelelvant. One Drew was enough for this Red Sox fan. At least JD was a top performer when he played.

 

Ridiculous, its not his fault the guy got beaned.

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The real mistake in shooting oneself in the leg is not the actual act but in forgetting to rack the slide to check for a round in the chamber before further handling of the pistol. That one is actually more common than you would think it. It is unfortunately, not even rare. The consequences range from "gee, I think I racked the slide but just in case, i am gonna' rack it again" only to find as the round pops out of the chamber usually hitting you in the head that you are not racking it a second time but the first time! ...

 

to....

 

Shooting yourself. With possibilities for just about everything in between.

 

If you recall, Sweeney picked a most unfortunate time to punch out inanimate objects as he was finally getting a chance to play and we reallllllly reallllly needed him to play.

 

While the result of the handgun incident was worse, certainly for the player, I actually would rank Sweeney's move a bit higher on the dumbness scale given how common it is for people to forget to rack the slide and given that Sweeney blundered during regular season play leaving us at the time effectively up the creek without a paddle.

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The real mistake in shooting oneself in the leg is not the actual act but in forgetting to rack the slide to check for a round in the chamber before further handling of the pistol. That one is actually more common than you would think it. It is unfortunately, not even rare. The consequences range from "gee, I think I racked the slide but just in case, i am gonna' rack it again" only to find as the round pops out of the chamber usually hitting you in the head that you are not racking it a second time but the first time! ...

 

to....

 

Shooting yourself. With possibilities for just about everything in between.

 

If you recall, Sweeney picked a most unfortunate time to punch out inanimate objects as he was finally getting a chance to play and we reallllllly reallllly needed him to play.

 

While the result of the handgun incident was worse, certainly for the player, I actually would rank Sweeney's move a bit higher on the dumbness scale given how common it is for people to forget to rack the slide and given that Sweeney blundered during regular season play leaving us at the time effectively up the creek without a paddle.

 

Brentz is a top prospect who ended his season last year in AAA. If he hadn't shot himself, he could be in the same shoes as Bradley right now.

 

I don't know what is more hilarious. That we're arguing about which player has made a dumber off-field move, or that you're arguing Sweeney punching the wall goes into the very selective idiot-hat :lol:

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I have been concussed too many times myself during playing days that now seem neanderthal from the perspective of how concussion was handled not to have anything but empathy for players that are concussed. There is no real telling how hard the hit was because you don't really know where Drew was hit in the head nor how much force might have been involved. Could have been a particularly sensitive spot. Anyway, he clearly was concussed and that is really all I have to know. The battery of required tests now to get back on the field are excellent. I honest to God think that it took so long to change our perspective on concussion because we really did not want to know. We wanted the player back out on the field and those of us who played wanted to get back out on the field regardless of the consequences I am sorry to say.
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I don't know what is more hilarious. That we're arguing about which player has made a dumber off-field move, or that you're arguing Sweeney punching the wall goes into the very selective idiot-hat

 

Actually I just thought it was a good opportunity to insert a little humor while at the same time exposing those who are not gun owners to what might be a little known or understood fact. That being that it is really not at all uncommon for someone to forget to rack the slide. Sad but true none the less.

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I haven't seen much this week, I did see Brentz was playing the other day. Has he done anything noteworthy?
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I haven't seen much this week, I did see Brentz was playing the other day. Has he done anything noteworthy?

 

3 for 8 with a HR.

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Is it because he has as many hr's in a Sox uni as I do?

 

Yeah, about the best thing I can say for Sweeney is that it's pretty clear he's not a juicer.

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It's also not his fault that he has an 'egg shell skull', so what is your point?

 

Does he have a history as an egg shell skull?

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Does he have a history as an egg shell skull?

 

No but unfortunately for him his last name is Drew. If his last name was Pedroia it be a different tune.

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Does he have a history as an egg shell skull?
He's a Drew. They are brittle all over. I hope Drew stays dizzy for a while and gives Iggy a good shot at proving himself. I never understood the Drew signing. IMO, it was a waste of $9 million.
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No but unfortunately for him his last name is Drew. If his last name was Pedroia it be a different tune.

 

^ Nostradamus

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A man with a brain injury that could be exacerbated by playing, and people think he's brittle for sitting out? Preposterous. Unless you think baseballs are magnetically attracted to Drew's head due to some unknown phenomenon, the only fault Drew had was not ducking fast enough. This could have happened to anyone -- literally.

 

After watching really good players whose dedication to playing at all costs I do not question, like Patrice Bergeron of the Bruins, lose full seasons to concussions, and a player whose grit cannot be doubted like Marc Savard, who played through a fractured bone in his back for an entire playoffs, end his career to post-concussion symptoms, I take concussions very seriously. Calling it a brain injury is medically accurate. Calling it something you just get up and play through is hilariously wrong. Tragically wrong. Could-kill-someone wrong.

 

If you want to survive you don't futz with the brain. Managing any concussion goes beyond sports activities and affects quality of post-playing careers, as countless athletes who have fallen into brain-trauma-related symptoms later in their post-playing careers demonstrate.

 

In short, this is serious ****, and our curmudgeons reveal their igonrance when they huffily pretend otherwise..

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He's a Drew. They are brittle all over. I hope Drew stays dizzy for a while and gives Iggy a good shot at proving himself. I never understood the Drew signing. IMO, it was a waste of $9 million.

BA OBP SLG OPS

.265 .328 .433 .762

 

with an average of 50RBIs and a decent defense.

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A man with a brain injury that could be exacerbated by playing, and people think he's brittle for sitting out? Preposterous.

 

i concur, damned if you do damned if you didnt.

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A man with a brain injury that could be exacerbated by playing, and people think he's brittle for sitting out? Preposterous. Unless you think baseballs are magnetically attracted to Drew's head due to some unknown phenomenon, the only fault Drew had was not ducking fast enough. This could have happened to anyone -- literally.
I am glad that he is sitting, not complaining. I don't think we should have gotten him. I see no sense in this 1 year deal for a team going nowhere. I'd rather see what we have with Iggy.
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BA OBP SLG OPS

.265 .328 .433 .762

 

with an average of 50RBIs and a decent defense.

I don't think we needed a stopgap guy for a team that will have a hard time being competitive.

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