A weird time to be a Red Sox fan

[cobra24]

I have been a long time Red Sox fan and after last season and this season it has been quite embarrassing. First off, do you miss Terry yet? I wasn’t the biggest fan of him skipping out on small ball every now and then, but being fired the way he was, was ridiculous, in my opinion. Furthermore, Bobby V. might have been the stupidest choice of them all. This guy has always been a head case idiot! He plays will players emotions through the media and throws players under the bus on the regular. If he isn’t gone at the end of the season, I, among many others will be very upset. He has to go and I wouldn’t mind if it was today! In addition, I am shocked at the trades the other day… A-Gon, Becket, Punto and Crawford shouldn’t have been punished for a crappy coaching and poor management (Lucchino). I still can’t believe they traded A-Gon. If you are going to trade Becket, Punto and Crawford, fine, but A-Gon, really? Finally, how does this all sit with the other players? Is Dustin going to stick around? What about Ellsbury and Lester? I am very afraid this BS has cost the Red Sox for many years to come.

 

One last thing, does anyone else think Larry Lucchino has to go? I feel like the Sox are being ran like the Raiders (couple years back) and the Cowboys.

 

I have tickets to all the LAA games starting tomorrow and this is the first time ever I am not super excited to go to the games. Sad really!

 

Am I the only one that feels this way?

[lospunchados]

I have been a long time Red Sox fan and after last season and this season it has been quite embarrassing. First off, do you miss Terry yet? I wasn’t the biggest fan of him skipping out on small ball every now and then, but being fired the way he was, was ridiculous, in my opinion. Furthermore, Bobby V. might have been the stupidest choice of them all. This guy has always been a head case idiot! He plays will players emotions through the media and throws players under the bus on the regular. If he isn’t gone at the end of the season, I, among many others will be very upset. He has to go and I wouldn’t mind if it was today! In addition, I am shocked at the trades the other day… A-Gon, Becket, Punto and Crawford shouldn’t have been punished for a crappy coaching and poor management (Lucchino). I still can’t believe they traded A-Gon. If you are going to trade Becket, Punto and Crawford, fine, but A-Gon, really? Finally, how does this all sit with the other players? Is Dustin going to stick around? What about Ellsbury and Lester? I am very afraid this BS has cost the Red Sox for many years to come.

 

One last thing, does anyone else think Larry Lucchino has to go? I feel like the Sox are being ran like the Raiders (couple years back) and the Cowboys.

 

I have tickets to all the LAA games starting tomorrow and this is the first time ever I am not super excited to go to the games. Sad really!

 

Am I the only one that feels this way?

 

I disagree in that they were being run like the raiders they made gaint corrections and a step in the right direction with there moves.

[cobra24]

I disagree in that they were being run like the raiders they made gaint corrections and a step in the right direction with there moves.

 

When I say they are being ran "like" the raiders/cowboys, Larry shouldn't be acting like the GM. That is the GM's job. Also, didn't Larry hire Bobby V. without anyone else?

[BoSox92]

A-Gon is a great player. No doubt, but he is, and will always be a great player on a mediocre team (Padres). A-Gon bitched about the road schedule, the text messaging thing, and he recently said if it wasn't for the Green Monster he'd have 30 homeruns easily.

 

It's excuse after excuse with this guy. He didn't show up for the first 3 months of the damn year. Teams give him no respect when it comes to pitching to him. Remember when teams would dilly dally around Ortiz and Ramirez? He lost power this season..

 

Plus the Sox weren't trading Gonzalez unless the Dodgers took Crawford and Beckett.

 

Beckett you cannot make a case for. He's totally lost it. Is NOT a dominant pitcher any more. Fans booed him everytime he took the mound. He was just a terrible contract and at 32 was all worth trading.

 

Crawford and Punto are the only ones you can make a case for in this trade. Punto played good for us and never complained. Crawford had a bad first season, but I really thought he'd turn it around this year but this injury I think just gave the front office more of an initiative to get rid of him and his terrible contract.

 

This was a great trade. Got rid of two prima donna's and guys who weren't playing there contracts.

 

Gained some very good prospects as well, Webster and De La Rosa..

[BoSox92]

But this is almost like a cleaning house deal.

 

Bobby V bumped heads with Youk, he is gone

Bobby V bumped heads with Beckett, he is gone

A-Gon did the whole text messaging thing about Bobby V, he is gone

 

Who's next Pedroia? Lester?

 

I'm interested to see where the Red Sox go. There only 7 games out of the wild card, they still have 2, 3 game sets with the Yankees, Orioles and Blue Jays. A 4 and 2 game set with the Rays as well.

 

Still lot of baseball left and since this trade they are 3-1. I know its the Royals but this is the same Royals team who was down in Tampa the series before us and gave them trouble.

 

I feel like there still will be another trade the Sox make before the 31st. And its almost like, do you cheer for this team this year? Or just hope to look at future prospects and look forward to next year? It is indeed a weird time to be a fan..

[Behindenemylines]

A-Gon was the key for the Dodgers to take the other contracts. Without A-Gon in the trade the trade doesn't get done. The Sox proved they weren't winning with this team so it is wise that they blew up the team. With the resources the Sox have, and done correctly this thing can get turned around quickly. Some in the nation have been spoiled by 2004 and 2007. Remember it took 86 years for 2004 to happen, and many a Sox fan were born and died without seeing a 2004 or 2007. Lets do the building correctly so we can have more 2004s and 2007s.

[SouthieFanatic]

People expected Gonzo to be "Manny-Like" the big power bat. Manny had a way of tuning out people/ media Gonzo didn't have that ability IMO he couldn't hack it... Or maybe Manny just had no clue what was going on at all times :dunno:

[DocHolliday]

It may be a weird time to be a fan but I consider these times necessary for any true fan of any team to have to endure. Things aren't always going to be positive and, after the megatrade went down yesterday, this team is heading back on an upswing towards better times. Being in a large market helps to reduce these downswings and for that I'm more than thankful.

 

When the Sox get back on their next long run of success, it will be all the more rewarding, for me at least, for standing by them through the tough times and seeing them climb out of it.

[mvp 78]

People expected Gonzo to be "Manny-Like" the big power bat. Manny had a way of tuning out people/ media Gonzo didn't have that ability IMO he couldn't hack it... Or maybe Manny just had no clue what was going on at all times :dunno:

 

Manny was a very cerebral player. He also was a generational HOF talent. AGon is good player, but he's not in Manny's stratosphere.

[Youk Of The Nation]

Cerebral?

 

He was a great player, and I can think of many words to describe him, but "cerebral" is definitely not one of them.

[Thunder]

I am always proud to be a Red Sox fan. That is my life. In the past few weeks, I have grown fond of Bobby V. He needed to get his haters out of his way. I am anxious to see how they finish the seasson and actually wish that Bobby comes back.

[wyo-sox]

I'm actually feeling like its an exciting time to be a fan.

[Divinity]

Manny was a very cerebral player. He also was a generational HOF talent. AGon is good player, but he's not in Manny's stratosphere.

 

How much of Manny's talent was enhanced by PED's though? He was only caught like what, three times using them?

[SouthieFanatic]

How much of Manny's talent was enhanced by PED's though? He was only caught like what, three times using them?

 

I counted only once maybe twice towards the very last days of his career. It sucks though cause he was already a phenomenal player before PEDs came in to the picture. He would of been a HOF without the PED. FYI i'm going on the assumption he didn't use them in Cleveland or the very first couple years in Boston. I mean he was a stick when he was in cleveland he couldn't have been over 200lbs or at least not by much, but I remember one spring training he came in ripped wearing a tank and I thought uh-oh roids? Whatever the case may be he was a great player with or without the PEDs. He was also one hell of a character. I wish baseball had more players with his type of personality

[SCM33]

Its a weird time to be a Redsox fan, because all the people who blindly defended them disappeared.

 

This place is a ghost town. Win or lose, they are still my team. I refuse to stop cheering for them.

[RedSoxNC84]

Its a weird time to be a Redsox fan, because all the people who blindly defended them disappeared.

 

This place is a ghost town. Win or lose, they are still my team. I refuse to stop cheering for them.

 

A lot of the people who attacked them disappeared as well.

 

Even if this team still had those huge contracts and were still under .500 the next season and the season after and so on, I'd still be a fan.. I keep a certain loyalty to my sports teams, but above all to the Boston Red Sox.

 

Good times or bad, complaining or not, I will never turn my back on this team.

[3rdManOut]

A lot of the people who attacked them disappeared as well.

 

Even if this team still had those huge contracts and were still under .500 the next season and the season after and so on, I'd still be a fan.. I keep a certain loyalty to my sports teams, but above all to the Boston Red Sox.

 

Good times or bad, complaining or not, I will never turn my back on this team.

 

Im right there with you. Thats what being a fan is all about. I cant stand they way the "Old Town Team" is playing right now but its not like Im going to run to another team to root for. Well...unless they relocate the Sox and I knnow that will never happen.

[Orange Juiced]

I'm actually feeling like its an exciting time to be a fan.

 

This is where I'm at. Not, obviously, because of how the team is doing *now*, but because the trade (the start of the great purge) has given this franchise an opportunity to get a fresh start.

 

Yes, the team is embarrassing itself right now. But I'm not even upset at this point. I just hope that a game like last night convinces the management that this last month has to be all about playing the kids and trying to see who can be helpful for next year. For example, we should never see Aaron Cook pitch another inning for this franchise.

[mvp 78]

The weird time to be a Sox fan was 03-07.

 

This is normal.

[jung]

I think any reasonable person would have to say that the Aaron Cook era has officially ended as of last night.

[3rdManOut]

Last night was atrocious!!!!!!!!!!!! So what do we do with Aaron Cook now?

[mvp 78]

Aaron Cook had an era?

[jung]

So what do we do with Aaron Cook now?

 

Fire him out of a cannon. Everything is good for something.

[a700hitter]

The weird time to be a Sox fan was 03-07.

 

This is normal.

We haven't played under .500 since 1997. If they lose 90 games, it will be the first time since 1966. Even I don't remember that team. This is not normal. Being out of contention by the middle of August is not normal, and I have been rooting for them for 45 years.

[a700hitter]

Its a weird time to be a Redsox fan, because all the people who blindly defended them disappeared.

 

This place is a ghost town. Win or lose, they are still my team. I refuse to stop cheering for them.

Exactly, and people who saw that this team were doomed from the start were accused of being negative an lousy fans etc. We're still here even though losing and being embarrassed sucks.

[Orange Juiced]

Aaron Cook had an era?

 

Yes, a very large one.

[ibot2much]

Interesting interview with Tom W. in the GLOBE this morning. Not sure if it was exclusively with Peter A or other media people were there. What was amzing was his positivity about BV.....Cher ( he was so articulate during the Dodgers trade interview), Ortiz...( need him back...he is the inspirational leader), core players like DP and JE and the great pitching staff and he can't wait for Lackey to come back.

 

It went on from the center of the front sports page to a full page inside.

 

The most interesting thing was that accompanying TS on the interview was his friend-- an Oscar winning screen writer.

 

I smell MONEYWASTE , the movie, in the making..

[example1]

Exactly, and people who saw that this team were doomed from the start were accused of being negative an lousy fans etc. We're still here even though losing and being embarrassed sucks.

 

It wasn't unreasonable to think this team would be much better than it is. I for one did accuse you of being negative but not of being a lousy fan. You are negative and have been since I have known you. This year it worked out for you.

 

I didn't hear people saying that the first half injuries would be the worst in baseball or that Doubront would be the best pitcher for the first 3 months and Lester would be the worst.

 

Even the most dire prognostications didn't see this terrible team as a certainty.

[VA Sox Fan]

Interesting interview with Tom W. in the GLOBE this morning. Not sure if it was exclusively with Peter A or other media people were there. What was amzing was his positivity about BV.....Cher ( he was so articulate during the Dodgers trade interview), Ortiz...( need him back...he is the inspirational leader), core players like DP and JE and the great pitching staff and he can't wait for Lackey to come back.

 

It went on from the center of the front sports page to a full page inside.

 

The most interesting thing was that accompanying TS on the interview was his friend-- an Oscar winning screen writer.

 

I smell MONEYWASTE , the movie, in the making..

 

I didn't see it as a positive about BV and hope he was hinting that he WON'T be back:

 

So how does he evaluate Bobby Valentine’s job as manager?

 

Werner’s answer was perhaps telling about what ownership is thinking.

 

“I don’t really want to get into that today,” he said. “I don’t want to talk too much about him. But he’s had a challenging year. I think, as we’ve said before, he’s doing a good job.”

 

Will Valentine return in 2013?

 

“I don’t really want to go there,” Werner said. “I think we all thought we’d bounce back more this year.”

 

I hope he is gone and it'd be nice to see Lucchino go to IMO. I'm as disappointed as anyone but still watching the games (not the west coast games until the end). I will always be a Red Sox fan.

 

Like MVP posted 2003-2007 was the weird time to be a Red Sox fan.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Feel bad for the ones who suffered before 04. If you think we got it bad, Red Sox fans went 86 years before witnessing a title. Those are the fans I respect. I've always hated Boston fans in every sport but the Sox fans are making their way up there now.