7/6 vs The Rangeless Wonder

[BornToRun]

Figured I'd grab this before someone else did. Let's take this off day, rest up, and then punch the skanks right in their smelly vaginas.

 

Let us all hope that I'm still making the game threads when we come back from the break.

[Palodios]

I got a free ticket from work for this one. Still a lot of Talksox members heading to this series? Bring on the mojo.

[kapsis21]

coco mojo. cmon man!

[Bellhorn04]

No Pedroia this weekend apparently.

[Laser Show]

No Pedroia this weekend apparently.

 

I am excited about the potential of Punto, Gomez, Lillibridge, and Shoppach on the field at the same time.

[NC Sox Fan]

I am excited about the potential of Punto' date=' Gomez, Lillibridge, and Shoppach on the field at the same time.[/quote']

 

I'm pretty sure I will end up in an excited state, just not in a good way.

[BornToRun]

No Pedroia this weekend apparently.

 

Where'd you hear that?

 

And middlebrooks might play. Said he feels good and wants to give it a shot.

[redsoxfan3]

Where'd you hear that?

 

And middlebrooks might play. Said he feels good and wants to give it a shot.

 

I heard that as well. I saw it on Scott Lauber's twitter. He said that Pedroia is headed to the 15 day DL according to a Major League source.

[BornToRun]

I heard that as well. I saw it on Scott Lauber's twitter. He said that Pedroia is headed to the 15 day DL according to a Major League source.

 

Oh well. Season over everybody.

 

<_>

[a700hitter]

Downward spiral on its way.

[Cocos Disciples]

coco mojo. cmon man!

 

No Coco-in-attendance mojo, but there will Coco-birthday mojo!

[mvp 78]

Went on vacation and the Sox got swept. No surprise there.

 

Time for a run!

[jacksonianmarch]

If the sox hope for a chance at the AL East, they have to win the series. They're down 8 games and they just lost their team leader. A series loss here would be devastating for the sox and would likely put them into sell mode at the break

[SoxFanForsyth]

If the sox hope for a chance at the AL East' date=' they have to win the series. They're down 8 games and they just lost their team leader. A series loss here would be devastating for the sox and would likely put them into sell mode at the break[/quote']

 

You are such a drama queen.

 

It's AL East or bust? Going to blow it up and forge any WC chances??

 

Unreal.

[ellsburyforMVP]

I got a free ticket from work for this one. Still a lot of Talksox members heading to this series? Bring on the mojo.

 

Got tickets to the Sunday game, thinking about trying to get game day tickets for the double header Saturday .... Will make for a long ass day, but oh well

[ellsburyforMVP]

If the sox hope for a chance at the AL East' date=' they have to win the series. They're down 8 games and they just lost their team leader. A series loss here would be devastating for the sox and would likely put them into sell mode at the break[/quote']

 

Go scream that on the Yankee board...... Cause none of us ( atleast me ) don't care about a New Yorker's assessment of OUR team

[redsoxfan3]

Downward spiral on its way.

 

If we can somehow manage to win three or four against the Yanks, I very well think that we can keep things intact with Ells, CC, and Sweeney all coming back after the All-Star Break. It is bizarre, but all three are going to hopefully be back at the same time.

[CaliSoxFan04]

Finally get to play these guys again can't wait for tomorrow!

[jacksonianmarch]

Go scream that on the Yankee board...... Cause none of us ( atleast me ) don't care about a New Yorker's assessment of OUR team

 

I'm a Yankee fan, but I am not a New Yorker.

[jacksonianmarch]

You are such a drama queen.

 

It's AL East or bust? Going to blow it up and forge any WC chances??

 

Unreal.

 

3 games out of a playoff spot right now. If the Yankees take 2, 3 or 4, there is a strong chance they'll be 5 or more out

[ellsburyforMVP]

I'm a Yankee fan' date=' but I am not a New Yorker.[/quote']

 

Oh... My bad, didn't mean to insult you like that:thumbsup:

Still a Yankee fan though :thumbdown

[BornToRun]

Go scream that on the Yankee board...... Cause none of us ( atleast me ) don't care about a New Yorker's assessment of OUR team

 

I'm on board with you.

[a700hitter]

You are such a drama queen.

 

It's AL East or bust? Going to blow it up and forge any WC chances??

 

Unreal.

If they lose this series and drop another 2 games in the loss column, the division will no longer be in play. There are too many teams to climb over in the division and none of them are patsies. You don't want to hear it but the are not going to play .660 ball for the last 76 games. I don't know how to fix this team right now. I don't think a big pitcher fixes things, when we have our big guy Gonzo with a complete power outage, with Pedroia injured and under performing, with just too many game playing sacks of garbage like Punto and Gomez in the lineup, with Lester and Beckett pitching like end of the rotation guys, and with Aceves blowing game after game. How do you fix such a mess? A little tinkering at the trading deadline will not help, and there will not be enough time after the TD to catch the Yankees. With 2 wild cards in play, there is a chance to get hot enough to win one of those spots, but getting to a 1 game playoff doesn't justify moving top prospects for a 2 month rental. They could take their chances with what they have got, but unless they start making a move before the TD, even a wild card spot will be very difficult to capture. If they are in the same position at the TD, the smartest move would be to come up with a good plan to break up this team and sell off the parts to start over. That would mean trying to shed as many contracts as possible. Gonzo's and Crawford's contracts can't be moved. Plus, we would be selling low on them. However, Beckett and Lester could be moved. They still have value. I think Lester should definitely be moved, because his performance has declined for a second year in a row. He's still a valuable commodity and he could bring a nice return. The 2012 team was doomed from the start. You never never ever start a season with two untested commodities in your starting rotation unless one of them is a Strasburg-type prospect. That had zero chance of working. We were lucky in that one of the guys worked out. Doubs has been a fine back of the rotation guy. Bard, on the other hand, blew up in spectacular fashion. Two rookies in the rotation is too much risk. I said it in the off season and during Spring Training. Dice K as the fall back plan if 1 of them flopped, was a terrible idea. He has sucked since 2008, so that just made no sense.

 

They made no bold moves, other than firing Tito, to move past the negativity of the 2011 season. They opened the season with the same crew that crumbled from apathy and expected things to be different. They needed to make some bold moves. Yes, it might have required going over budget, but it was necessary to change course. They didn't, and this was the very predictable result. I feel like 2012 has the feel of September 2011 part II. People look for explanations that do not lead to the harsh truth that (he 2012 team never had a chance. People will look to blame injuries. It wasn't injuries. The team was poorly constructed. It had major flaws in the rotation. The starting pitching is near the bottom of the league. The good pitching on the last road trip was an aberration. We were facing two of the worst offenses in the league.

 

Is the season over? Is all hope lost? No, this is baseball. In 45 years, I have learned that anything can happen. But things are not going in the right direction. There is little hope that things will turn around before the TD, and time is running out.

[kapsis21]

No Coco-in-attendance mojo' date=' but there will Coco-birthday mojo![/quote']

 

i know any coco mojo is good mojo man!

[SemperFi Sox]

Yankee fans have every right to post here, it's actually nice to hear their perspective if they are civil.

[SemperFi Sox]

No Pedroia, Ellsbury, Crawford and possibly WMB.

 

Mother fudger

[jacksonianmarch]

WMB might be back tonight

[iortiz]

If they lose this series and drop another 2 games in the loss column, the division will no longer be in play. There are too many teams to climb over in the division and none of them are patsies. You don't want to hear it but the are not going to play .660 ball for the last 76 games. I don't know how to fix this team right now. I don't think a big pitcher fixes things, when we have our big guy Gonzo with a complete power outage, with Pedroia injured and under performing, with just too many game playing sacks of garbage like Punto and Gomez in the lineup, with Lester and Beckett pitching like end of the rotation guys, and with Aceves blowing game after game. How do you fix such a mess? A little tinkering at the trading deadline will not help, and there will not be enough time after the TD to catch the Yankees. With 2 wild cards in play, there is a chance to get hot enough to win one of those spots, but getting to a 1 game playoff doesn't justify moving top prospects for a 2 month rental. They could take their chances with what they have got, but unless they start making a move before the TD, even a wild card spot will be very difficult to capture. If they are in the same position at the TD, the smartest move would be to come up with a good plan to break up this team and sell off the parts to start over. That would mean trying to shed as many contracts as possible. Gonzo's and Crawford's contracts can't be moved. Plus, we would be selling low on them. However, Beckett and Lester could be moved. They still have value. I think Lester should definitely be moved, because his performance has declined for a second year in a row. He's still a valuable commodity and he could bring a nice return. The 2012 team was doomed from the start. You never never ever start a season with two untested commodities in your starting rotation unless one of them is a Strasburg-type prospect. That had zero chance of working. We were lucky in that one of the guys worked out. Doubs has been a fine back of the rotation guy. Bard, on the other hand, blew up in spectacular fashion. Two rookies in the rotation is too much risk. I said it in the off season and during Spring Training. Dice K as the fall back plan if 1 of them flopped, was a terrible idea. He has sucked since 2008, so that just made no sense.

 

They made no bold moves, other than firing Tito, to move past the negativity of the 2011 season. They opened the season with the same crew that crumbled from apathy and expected things to be different. They needed to make some bold moves. Yes, it might have required going over budget, but it was necessary to change course. They didn't, and this was the very predictable result. I feel like 2012 has the feel of September 2011 part II. People look for explanations that do not lead to the harsh truth that (he 2012 team never had a chance. People will look to blame injuries. It wasn't injuries. The team was poorly constructed. It had major flaws in the rotation. The starting pitching is near the bottom of the league. The good pitching on the last road trip was an aberration. We were facing two of the worst offenses in the league.

 

Is the season over? Is all hope lost? No, this is baseball. In 45 years, I have learned that anything can happen. But things are not going in the right direction. There is little hope that things will turn around before the TD, and time is running out.

 

Well, This is the big picture of the 2012 Red Sox. No more, no less.

 

Excellent analysis.

[a700hitter]

If they lose this series and drop another 2 games in the loss column, the division will no longer be in play. There are too many teams to climb over in the division and none of them are patsies. You don't want to hear it but the are not going to play .660 ball for the last 76 games. I don't know how to fix this team right now. I don't think a big pitcher fixes things, when we have our big guy Gonzo with a complete power outage, with Pedroia injured and under performing, with just too many game playing sacks of garbage like Punto and Gomez in the lineup, with Lester and Beckett pitching like end of the rotation guys, and with Aceves blowing game after game. How do you fix such a mess? A little tinkering at the trading deadline will not help, and there will not be enough time after the TD to catch the Yankees. With 2 wild cards in play, there is a chance to get hot enough to win one of those spots, but getting to a 1 game playoff doesn't justify moving top prospects for a 2 month rental. They could take their chances with what they have got, but unless they start making a move before the TD, even a wild card spot will be very difficult to capture. If they are in the same position at the TD, the smartest move would be to come up with a good plan to break up this team and sell off the parts to start over. That would mean trying to shed as many contracts as possible. Gonzo's and Crawford's contracts can't be moved. Plus, we would be selling low on them. However, Beckett and Lester could be moved. They still have value. I think Lester should definitely be moved, because his performance has declined for a second year in a row. He's still a valuable commodity and he could bring a nice return. The 2012 team was doomed from the start. You never never ever start a season with two untested commodities in your starting rotation unless one of them is a Strasburg-type prospect. That had zero chance of working. We were lucky in that one of the guys worked out. Doubs has been a fine back of the rotation guy. Bard, on the other hand, blew up in spectacular fashion. Two rookies in the rotation is too much risk. I said it in the off season and during Spring Training. Dice K as the fall back plan if 1 of them flopped, was a terrible idea. He has sucked since 2008, so that just made no sense.

 

They made no bold moves, other than firing Tito, to move past the negativity of the 2011 season. They opened the season with the same crew that crumbled from apathy and expected things to be different. They needed to make some bold moves. Yes, it might have required going over budget, but it was necessary to change course. They didn't, and this was the very predictable result. I feel like 2012 has the feel of September 2011 part II. People look for explanations that do not lead to the harsh truth that (he 2012 team never had a chance. People will look to blame injuries. It wasn't injuries. The team was poorly constructed. It had major flaws in the rotation. The starting pitching is near the bottom of the league. The good pitching on the last road trip was an aberration. We were facing two of the worst offenses in the league.

 

Is the season over? Is all hope lost? No, this is baseball. In 45 years, I have learned that anything can happen. But things are not going in the right direction. There is little hope that things will turn around before the TD, and time is running out.

and Ben Cherington is not up to the job of rebuilding this organization. He was Duke's gopher and Theo's apprentice. He's not qualified to do this job. Neither was Hoyer who s*** "l over himself in SD and ran back to hide behind Theo in Chicago.

[a700hitter]

Well, This is the big picture of the 2012 Red Sox. No more, no less.

 

Excellent analysis.

If we ran this team, with our combined skill sets, this would have been a much better season up to this point. They have a light weight running one of the premier franchises in all of sports.