Theo's best and worst signings--- be it FA or trade

[kapsis21]

I am going to start of with the worst.

Lackey - so far

Lugo

Carl Crawford -so far

Renteria

Dice-k except for 1 good year in 2007. we paid 100 mill for 6 years arghhh

[iortiz]

This thread remind me the movie "There will be blood"

[a700hitter]

This thread remind me the movie "There will be blood"

That was a dark movie. Daniel Day Lewis played a very dark disturbing character. At the end, he beats to death the phony preacher with a bowling ball.

[iortiz]

That was a dark movie. Daniel Day Lewis played a very dark disturbing character. At the end' date=' he beats to death the phony preacher with a bowling ball.[/quote']

 

Hopefully this doesn't end that way.

[The Boomer]

Best:

 

V-Mart

Bay

Beltre

[User Name]

Best:

V-Mart

Bay

Beltre

 

Schilling

Millar

Mueller

[Laser Show]

Bad: Ramiro Mendoza, Edgar Renteria, Matt Clement (due to that vicious line drive), Wily Mo Pena, Julio Lugo, Brad Penny, Joel Pineiro, Mike Cameron,

 

Good: Mike Timlin, Coco Crisp, Jason Bay, Victor Martinez, Adrian Beltre,

 

So-so: Keith Foulke, JD Drew

[Bellhorn04]

Bad: Ramiro Mendoza, Edgar Renteria, Matt Clement (due to that vicious line drive), Wily Mo Pena, Julio Lugo, Brad Penny, Joel Pineiro, Mike Cameron,

 

Good: Mike Timlin, Coco Crisp, Jason Bay, Victor Martinez, Adrian Beltre,

 

So-so: Keith Foulke, JD Drew

 

Keith Foulke is a good example of a move that's hard to judge. He was a huge part of winning it in 2004, then a washout after that. So it was not a good value deal, but was it a move that you would make again? I think most Sox fans would say yes.

[mvp 78]

No love for Papi today?

 

Without him, no rings.

 

Best signing: contract with Cubs

[User Name]

No love for Papi today?

 

Without him, no rings.

 

Best signing: contract with Cubs

 

Looooooooooooooooooooooooool.

[mvp 78]

Keith Foulke is a good example of a move that's hard to judge. He was a huge part of winning it in 2004' date=' then a washout after that. So it was not a good value deal, but was it a move that you would make again? I think most Sox fans would say yes.[/quote']

 

Yeah, and how was Coco a good signing but Foulke so-so? Makes no sense.

[Laser Show]

Yeah' date=' and how was Coco a good signing but Foulke so-so? Makes no sense.[/quote']

 

It's all personal opinion. Coco played 1 great season and 2 average seasons. Foulke played 1 great season and 2 mediocre seasons.

[ibot2much]

Mike Lowell- one of the best especially as a throw in

[mvp 78]

Mike Lowell- one of the best especially as a throw in

 

That deal was made while Theo was in the gorilla suit.

[ibot2much]

That deal was made while Theo was in the gorilla suit.

 

Thanks. I should have figured that

[Laser Show]

Mike Lowell- one of the best especially as a throw in

 

Wasn't the Beckett-Lowell-Sanchez-Ramirez trade made when Theo stepped away for a few months?

[User Name]

That deal was made while Theo was in the gorilla suit.

 

The problem with that one is that we don't know if the negotiations were left in advanced stages by Epstein before Gorilla-suit gate.

[mvp 78]

The problem with that one is that we don't know if the negotiations were left in advanced stages by Epstein before Gorilla-suit gate.

 

Epstein stated after the fact that he wouldn't have traded Hanley.

[MANNYHOF24]

DAVID MOTHA f***ING ORTIZ

[User Name]

Epstein stated after the fact that he wouldn't have traded Hanley.

 

I'd never read that anywhere. Go figure.

[mvp 78]

I'd never read that anywhere. Go figure.

 

I'll see if I can find a source to clear it up.

[kapsis21]

Beckett & Mike Lowell for the trade of Sanchez and Hanley, definitely earned us that ring.. but he wasnt responsible for it.. atleast of what i have heard..

[kapsis21]

DAVID MOTHA f***ING ORTIZ

 

yep he is been the go to guy all season/every season since 03..

[jung]

Daniel Day Lewis played a very dark disturbing character. At the end, he beats to death the phony preacher with a bowling ball.

 

I sure as hell know who gets the phony preacher role, which one of you wants the Daniel Day Lewis part.

[a700hitter]

I sure as hell know who gets the phony preacher role' date=' which one of you wants the Daniel Day Lewis part.[/quote']

 

[a700hitter]

DAVID MOTHA f***ING ORTIZ

Two things about the Ortiz acquisition:

 

First, this thread was intended to address Theo's record signing big money free agents. Ortiz was just released by the Twins and was obtained for little cost.

 

Second, Pedro was responsible for the Ortiz signing. Ortiz saw Pedro shortly after he got the news that the Twins released him. Pedro called Theo on the spot and strongly recommended that he sign Ortiz. Theo got the jump on the other GMs thanks to Pedro, and he probably signed him as a favor to his star pitcher. Thank you Pedro for Ortiz.

[Laser Show]

Two things about the Ortiz acquisition:

 

First, this thread was intended to address Theo's record signing big money free agents. Ortiz was just released by the Twins and was obtained for little cost.

 

Second, Pedro was responsible for the Ortiz signing. Ortiz saw Pedro shortly after he got the news that the Twins released him. Pedro called Theo on the spot and strongly recommended that he sign Ortiz. Theo got the jump on the other GMs thanks to Pedro, and he probably signed him as a favor to his star pitcher. Thank you Pedro for Ortiz.

 

All the title specifies is best and worst signings, by FA or trade. It doesn't say they have to be low cost acquisitions.

[kapsis21]

Two things about the Ortiz acquisition:

 

First, this thread was intended to address Theo's record signing big money free agents. Ortiz was just released by the Twins and was obtained for little cost.

 

Second, Pedro was responsible for the Ortiz signing. Ortiz saw Pedro shortly after he got the news that the Twins released him. Pedro called Theo on the spot and strongly recommended that he sign Ortiz. Theo got the jump on the other GMs thanks to Pedro, and he probably signed him as a favor to his star pitcher. Thank you Pedro for Ortiz.

 

but Ortiz was a free agent at that point when twins released him right?

[kapsis21]

Bad: Ramiro Mendoza' date=' Edgar Renteria, Matt Clement (due to that vicious line drive), [b']Wily Mo Pena[/b], Julio Lugo, Brad Penny, Joel Pineiro, Mike Cameron,

 

Good: Mike Timlin, Coco Crisp, Jason Bay, Victor Martinez, Adrian Beltre,

 

So-so: Keith Foulke, JD Drew

 

yep we traded Bronson who is still pitching stellar in Reds uniform.. and we got absolutely nothing for that..same thing with Eric Gagne trade one of the worst ones, i still miss David Murphy.

[jung]

I think the point is that the entire league would not have left Ortiz sitting on the scrap heap. Pedro gave the Sox an early warning and an opportunity to get him before the rest of the league got cranked up. He was available for next to nothing. Everybody has next to nothing that they can come up with to spend for a guy and any number of teams would have taken that shot.

 

I think it is hard to believe we would have ended up with Ortiz were it not for Pedro. Think about that one for minute and when your heart comes back out of your throat take yourself a shot of some good scotch and say a little prayer.