Beckett still fixating on the "snitches"??

[Emmz]

Cant move on, Beckett wont shut his mouth. He keeps saying the s***, what is Shaugnessey supposed to do? Ignore it? Thats he f***ing job to report it. Beckett is apparently too stupid to figure that out so he keeps talking.

 

 

 

Hes been here 6 years. He wants to be treated like an ace, people around here call him an ace yet hes lived up to that in 2, maybe 3 years since hes been here.

 

You know what pitching like a #1 50% of the time (3 years) and pitching like a #5 is 50% of the time (3 years)is???? Its called a #3 starter.

 

I want him to 1. keep his mouth shut, 2. show up in shape and 3. pitch well.

 

Hes already failed #1 since he wants to point fingers at everyone. Hes already failed #2 when he showed up to camp looking like Brad Penny. Apparently making 18Milllion dollars, along with last years failure and bad publicity wasn't enough to get his fat ass in shape.

 

#3, well....thats wait and see. He pitched well for most of last season like you already mentioned, but then his fat ass broke down.....and he looks fatter this year than last.

 

Yes we know, you hate Beckett because your friend said he's an *******.

[Elktonnick]

BV obviously thinks the trust issue is still there. Beckett 's snitch comment is important in the sense that he hasn't gotten over last September. If he directs his anger outward at the the snitch who is no longer with the club then that's okay. However, if Beckett believes the "snitch" is still with the club this could be an insidious problem which will only fester. Based on the comments the feeling is Beckett is the one stirring the pot. This could get ugly if it isn't handled right. The media is on it so this isn't going away.

 

BTW there is a rumor going around that Scuturo was one the alleged sources for the stories hence his hasty departure.

 

There is concern that the team could break down into factions. The pitchers and the position players, the question is whether Beckett will be part of the solution or the problem.

 

I happen to fall into the camp that Beckett based on his personality is a problem.

[mvp 78]

So Beckett was distracted over his wife's pregnancy last year (that's the excuse anyway). Aren't the 9 months after pregnancy way more distracting than the nine when you wife/gf is pregnant?

[redsoxfan3]

Cant move on, Beckett wont shut his mouth. He keeps saying the s***, what is Shaugnessey supposed to do? Ignore it? Thats he f***ing job to report it. Beckett is apparently too stupid to figure that out so he keeps talking.

 

 

 

Hes been here 6 years. He wants to be treated like an ace, people around here call him an ace yet hes lived up to that in 2, maybe 3 years since hes been here.

 

You know what pitching like a #1 50% of the time (3 years) and pitching like a #5 is 50% of the time (3 years)is???? Its called a #3 starter.

 

I want him to 1. keep his mouth shut, 2. show up in shape and 3. pitch well.

 

Hes already failed #1 since he wants to point fingers at everyone. Hes already failed #2 when he showed up to camp looking like Brad Penny. Apparently making 18Milllion dollars, along with last years failure and bad publicity wasn't enough to get his fat ass in shape.

 

#3, well....thats wait and see. He pitched well for most of last season like you already mentioned, but then his fat ass broke down.....and he looks fatter this year than last.

 

1. He has the right to say whatever he wants. I do agree that he should watch what he says, but I don't blame him for being upset. Bobby V was also saying that other players were telling him the same thing. They just didn't talk to the media about it. This topic is something that is not going to carry on in the season. He still might have some frustrations from the end of last season. He is allowed to express his mind. It is better that it is coming out now and not in the regular season so it is not a disctraction then. It will get resolved. I don't think Beckett was in the wrong about what he said. I have heard the same thing about Scutaro. Supposedly he was saying some things and that is possibly the reason they traded him this offseason. If that is the case, then I think it was a good move. I would rather not have a snitching Scutaro and have better chemistry in the clubhouse. The team chemistry will get better and they will develop trust over the course of the season.

 

2. Saying Beckett is not in shape is a matter of opinion. He didn't look like he was in Jacoby Ellsbury shape, but he is also a pitcher. He will improve the shape that he is in over Spring Training. He will be right where he needs to be after Spring Training is over. The team will make sure of that.

 

3. After coming off of a great year last year, I expect Beckett to keep pitching the way he did. We will definitely see during the course of the season.

 

All of this is a matter of opinion. If you don't like the guy then of course you are going to be negative about him. I don't have a problem with him. He is the way he is. My concern is that he does what this team needs when he is on the mound.

[BSN07]

So Beckett was distracted over his wife's pregnancy last year (that's the excuse anyway). Aren't the 9 months after pregnancy way more distracting than the nine when you wife/gf is pregnant?

 

Maybe, but as this was his first child and first time through that particular experience I believe it's an honest distraction.

 

I'm not a father yet, but I can imagine the when the first born is on the way and having to deal with all that goes along with it, it could be distracting to anyone.

[a700hitter]

Yes we know' date=' you hate Beckett because your friend said he's an *******.[/quote']Most of them are *******s. The ones that are not complete *******s have their ******* moments. Heck, even Stan the Man, who was universally admired even in visiting ballparks, yelled at a kid in Chicago once. BTW, the author of his recent biography said that The Man was the only ballplayer that he ever wrote about who he couldn't find anything negative to report. But for yelling at that kid one time, the author said he was almost too good to be true. That is the exception. His contemporaries in the AL--DiMaggio and Williams were major *******s. If we hated all the *******s, there would be no fans. LOL!

[Elktonnick]

So Beckett was distracted over his wife's pregnancy last year (that's the excuse anyway). Aren't the 9 months after pregnancy way more distracting than the nine when you wife/gf is pregnant?

 

As the father of five daughters, I can honestly say it is always distracting until you walk them down the aisle on their wedding day.

 

and then the grand kids come!

[a700hitter]

So Beckett was distracted over his wife's pregnancy last year (that's the excuse anyway). Aren't the 9 months after pregnancy way more distracting than the nine when you wife/gf is pregnant?

These people who act like theirs is the only childbirth in history irk me. Sure, it's a blessing, but put it in perspective. It's not a world stopping event. It happens millions of times a day. Take a day or 2 to help your wifw and to ooh and ahhh, and then get back to f***ing work. The important thing to the child is that you provide a loving home, stay with the mother, and be a responsible father. There's too much hoopla around births and too much neglect in childhood. It's just a pet peeve of mine as you can tell.

[Emmz]

Most of them are *******s. The ones that are not complete *******s have their ******* moments. Heck' date=' even Stan the Man, who was universally admired even in visiting ballparks, yelled at a kid in Chicago once. BTW, the author of his recent biography said that The Man was the only ballplayer that he ever wrote about who he couldn't find anything negative to report. But for yelling at that kid one time, the author said he was almost too good to be true. That is the exception. His contemporaries in the AL--DiMaggio and Williams were major *******s. If we hated all the *******s, there would be no fans. LOL![/quote']

 

Thats exactly why its old. He shows his hatred for Beckett in just about every thread where Beckett is a subject, and it's almost kind of weird that you can hold so much contempt for a ballplayer who's actually on your favored team and is actually good. Im sure most of them are *******s, but we don't know them, and they're playing for us. If they're good, just let it go. Thats why Manny was allowed to be the biggest, most open ******* in the league, because he was also a great hitter.

 

If he produces, who gives a s***? He was our best pitcher last year. Save the hate for Lackey, who's fatter, uglier and possibly a bigger *******, and the worst pitcher in the AL.

[Bellhorn04]

If he produces' date=' who gives a s***? He was our best pitcher last year. Save the hate for Lackey, who's fatter, uglier and possibly a bigger *******, and the worst pitcher in the AL.[/quote']

 

Hopefully Lackey was the worst pitcher in the AL last year because of the elbow.

[Emmz]

Hopefully Lackey was the worst pitcher in the AL last year because of the elbow.

 

Yeah, and even first year's Lackey would be fine by me, especially if he pitches like he did at the end of the year.

[a700hitter]

Yeah' date=' and even first year's Lackey would be fine by me, especially if he pitches like he did at the end of the year.[/quote']Are we starting a 2012 off season thread already?

[jung]

All this stuff aside, Beckett is still a very effective pitcher that the Sox have at a fairly reasonable price when you consider what pitching costs these days.

 

That said to be honest I think that he is one more expletive laced interview away from writing his own ticket out of town. We are talking about the ever image conscience Sox here. It has been a long time since this was Tom Yawkey's team. Frankly I am not sure he even wants to be here any more.

 

I don't want it to happen that way and I just wish Beckett would let it go. If not, I suspect that this will be his last year in Boston and the Sox will simply move him in the offseason.

[Emmz]

Are we starting a 2012 off season thread already?

 

How else could this thread have turned out?

[Emmz]

All this stuff aside, Beckett is still a very effective pitcher that the Sox have at a fairly reasonable price when you consider what pitching costs these days.

 

That said to be honest I think that he is one more expletive laced interview away from writing his own ticket out of town. We are talking about the ever image conscience Sox here. It has been a long time since this was Tom Yawkey's team. Frankly I am not sure he even wants to be here any more.

 

I don't want it to happen that way and I just wish Beckett would let it go. If not, I suspect that this will be his last year in Boston and the Sox will simply move him in the offseason.

 

I don't think he's on thin ice. The Sox need him.

[a700hitter]

I don't think he's on thin ice. The Sox need him.

The starting rotation is on thin ice, not Beckett.

[User Name]

Beckett isn't going anywhere because they'd never get fair value for him in a trade if he's sucking, and if he's doing good he's technically a bargain and the Sox need him.

[ibot2much]

The sox pay Beckett to pitch, not CONTINUE to flap his mouth. Since we have not seen any pitching, but we have heard his mouth, we have only that to judge him on. While he may have been defending francona and his media problems in the EEI this week end, he ALSO said that they were making things up ( about francona?) as they made stuff up about us. Keep stirring it Josh and get your self in deeper.

[Emmz]

The sox pay Beckett to pitch' date=' not CONTINUE to flap his mouth. Since we have not seen any pitching, but we have heard his mouth, we have only that to judge him on. While he may have been defending francona and his media problems in the EEI this week end, he ALSO said that they were making things up ( about francona?) as they made stuff up about us. Keep stirring it Josh and get your self in deeper.[/quote']

 

I can't even understand your reasoning here. And how does his s*** talking hold any water in the discussion? His past performance (you know, a Cy Young candidate) from as recently as last year outweighs him "running his mouth" by tenfold.

 

this is lulz.

[Emmz]

The starting rotation is on thin ice' date=' not Beckett.[/quote']

 

Thats exactly right.

[a700hitter]

The sox pay Beckett to pitch' date=' not CONTINUE to flap his mouth. Since we have not seen any pitching, but we have heard his mouth, we have only that to judge him on. While he may have been defending francona and his media problems in the EEI this week end, he ALSO said that they were making things up ( about francona?) as they made stuff up about us. Keep stirring it Josh and get your self in deeper.[/quote']If the press keeps asking him provocative questions, he will keep flapping his gums. The 2011 story is over and done. It was an off season story, because it was likely to, and did in fact, affect the organizations off season moves. Now, the moves have been made, the problems addressed. It's time to move on. Enough already. Let's just all agree that 2011, like all the other ills in the world, it was Bush's fault. Move on.

[Emmz]

If the press keeps asking him provocative questions' date=' he will keep flapping his gums. The 2011 story is over and done. It was an off season story, because it was likely to, and did in fact, affect the organizations off season moves. Now, the moves have been made, the problems addressed. It's time to move on. Enough already. Let's just all agree that 2011, like all the other ills in the world, was Bush's fault. Move on.[/quote']

 

I blame Canada.

[a700hitter]

I blame Canada.

Yes. them too.

[Emmz]

http://images.wikia.com/southpark/images/9/9f/1204_ike_in_front_of_house.jpg

 

Canada ON STRIKE!

[Emmz]

On-topic, I think its funny how some people are fixated on Beckett's fixating!

[ibot2much]

I can't even understand your reasoning here. And how does his s*** talking hold any water in the discussion? His past performance (you know, a Cy Young candidate) from as recently as last year outweighs him "running his mouth" by tenfold.

 

this is lulz.

 

If he talks stupid s***, he is judged on it.

[Emmz]

If he talks stupid s***' date=' he is judged on it.[/quote']

 

Unsubstantially. As a player, its meaningless. His performance is better to go off. Sorry, but you're just plain old incorrect.

[ibot2much]

Unsubstantially. As a player' date=' its meaningless. His performance is better to go off. Sorry, but you're just plain old incorrect.[/quote']

 

He hasn't performed yet, but he has continued to flap his mouth....that is where he is being judged right now.

 

 

How can you not noticed that is what is happening?.....he is being talked about because of what he is saying. Pretty clear cut and obvious

[VA Sox Fan]

If the press keeps asking him provocative questions' date=' he will keep flapping his gums. The 2011 story is over and done. It was an off season story, because it was likely to, and did in fact, affect the organizations off season moves. Now, the moves have been made, the problems addressed. It's time to move on. Enough already. [b']Let's just all agree that 2011, like all the other ills in the world, was Bush's fault. Move on[/b].

 

:lol:

[User Name]

He hasn't performed yet, but he has continued to flap his mouth....that is where he is being judged right now.

 

 

How can you not noticed that is what is happening?.....he is being talked about because of what he is saying. Pretty clear cut and obvious

 

It's just another case of the media over-blowing something completely innocuous.

 

Beckett's not nearly on the level of ******* of players such as Manny, Logan Morrison and Miguel Tejada who say stupid thing after stupid thing but don't get the amount of flak Beckett is getting. Hell, David Ortiz is much more of a loudmouth and a diva than Beckett.

 

This is just an attempt by the media to continue to exploit chicken-gate. Time to move on.