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Bad job by Curtis on a 3-2 pitch that far out of the strike zone. A Major League hitter has to be able to take that pitch.

 

EDIT: How do you not pinch hit Posada here?

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what happened?

 

3-6-1 double play. Pitcher covers first. I'm sure it was unintentional, but he placed his foot right in the middle of the bag. Considering the high risk of injury, you just can't do that. Now we'll have to wait and see if Berkman is OK.

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3-6-1 double play. Pitcher covers first. I'm sure it was unintentional' date=' but he placed his foot right in the middle of the bag. Considering the high risk of injury, you just can't do that. Now we'll have to wait and see if Berkman is OK.[/quote']

 

i don't think that's dirty. it's in the pitcher's best interest not to put his foot on the middle of the bag so that he doesn't get hurt, but if he has the ball not only the entire bag is fair game but he could stand right in the baseline in order retire the runner. it's no different than a catcher sticking his leg out to trip up a runner trying to cross home plate

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i don't think that's dirty. it's in the pitcher's best interest not to put his foot on the middle of the bag so that he doesn't get hurt' date=' but if he has the ball not only the entire bag is fair game but he could stand right in the baseline in order retire the runner. it's no different than a catcher sticking his leg out to trip up a runner trying to cross home plate[/quote']

 

Maybe 'dirty' is the wrong word, but it's not the proper play. It creates an injury risk, and it's not an accepted part of the game like the catcher blocking home plate.

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i don't think that's dirty. it's in the pitcher's best interest not to put his foot on the middle of the bag so that he doesn't get hurt' date=' but if he has the ball not only the entire bag is fair game but he could stand right in the baseline in order retire the runner. it's no different than a catcher sticking his leg out to trip up a runner trying to cross home plate[/quote']It's not an easy thing for a pitcher to run to first, find the bag and take the throw from the SS. Placing his foot in the middle of the bag puts him in just as much danger of injury.
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It's not an easy thing for a pitcher to run to first' date=' find the bag and take the throw from the SS. Placing his foot in the middle of the bag puts him in just as much danger of injury.[/quote']

 

Something can be a dirty or improper play even if it also puts the player doing it at risk. A perfect example is the Coco Crisp/Akinori Iwamura situation in 2008. Iwamura's play put both players at risk, but it was still dirty on his part.

 

With that being said, I agree, it's a tough play for the pitcher, and I don't think there was any ill-intent on his part. But he still created a situation where some sort of injury is likely to occur.

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Maybe 'dirty' is the wrong word' date=' but it's not the proper play. It creates an injury risk, and it's not an accepted part of the game like the catcher blocking home plate.[/quote']

 

when you start getting into unwritten rules and whether something within the actual rules is an accepted part of the game or not, it really depends on who you ask

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when you start getting into unwritten rules and whether something within the actual rules is an accepted part of the game or not' date=' it really depends on who you ask[/quote']

 

Normally I agree with this, but a first basemen or pitcher putting their foot right in the middle of first base is something you never see, and there's a reason for it.

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Normally I agree with this' date=' but a first basemen or pitcher putting their foot right in the middle of first base is something you never see, and there's a reason for it.[/quote']... and when you see it, it is always an accident.
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... and when you see it' date=' it is always an accident.[/quote']

 

And I admitted that it was almost certainly an accident. I rescinded the word 'dirty', because it misrepresented the pitcher's intentions. All I'm saying is that, through his actions, he put a player on the other team at risk (who had to be removed from the game).

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And I admitted that it was almost certainly an accident. I rescinded the word 'dirty'' date=' because it misrepresented the pitcher's intentions. All I'm saying is that, through his actions, he put a player on the other team at risk (who had to be removed from the game).[/quote']It's a dangerous play. There is no doubt about it.
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And I admitted that it was almost certainly an accident. I rescinded the word 'dirty'' date=' because it misrepresented the pitcher's intentions. All I'm saying is that, through his actions, he put a player on the other team at risk (who had to be removed from the game).[/quote']

 

yeah, i agree. and usually you don't see a pitcher do it out of self-preservation because it puts him at a high risk for injury as well and if the runners wants they can run right into the pitcher

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Bullington is pitching a fantastic game looking for his first major league win, but the Royals manager needs to have Soria close this out. The Yankee announcers are saying the same thing. The kid is liable to s*** himself in the 9th.
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I wouldn't mind seeing them call up Montero, especially if Berkman is going to miss time. While this team is good offensively, they're also inconsistent, and they have too many games like the one today. Maybe Montero would provide some sort of spark heading into the pennant stretch. With the problems in the rotation, and the inconsistency of the offense, making the playoffs (and certainly winning the division) is anything but a sure thing.
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Bullington is pitching a fantastic game looking for his first major league win' date=' but the Royals manager needs to have Soria close this out. The Yankee announcers are saying the same thing. The kid is liable to s*** himself in the 9th.[/quote']

 

I agree. I'd like to see Bullington start the ninth, but I think Hillman goes to Soria.

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They really should go to the bullpen here if they want to have any shot in the ninth.

 

EDIT: Never mind. Excellent double play.

 

Great outing by AJ. Unfortunately they've got the bottom of the order coming up in the ninth against Soria.

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