2009 ALCS: Angels @ Yankees

[Dojji]

OK, I mean, that's fair. You would have to admit though, there is nothing tangible or specific in your argument besides "the Angels are a good team".

 

But your statement about the Dodgers still makes absolutely no sense. For the most part, their bullpen is young also, and they're going up against one of the best offensive teams in baseball.

 

Actually Broxton and Sherrill are fairly experienced, especially for their ages. Broxton has 4 full years in the league, Sherrill has 5 (or rather, four and two halves). Behind them, Kuo and Troncoso compare favorably with Aceves and Robertson respectively.

 

The kicker for me is depth. The Yankees have Rivera, Hughes, Robertson and Aceves, and had Joba in the pen for the ALDS. The Dodgers have Broxton, Sherrill, Kuo, Belisario, Troncoso, and in a pinch, have gotten decent results from Weaver as the long man as well.

 

Among the pitchers the Yankees have on their roster that I don't know how much they can actually count on against good hitters is both of their bullpen lefties, Damaso Marte and Phil coke. That's a big disadvantage over a team that has Sherrill, and Kuo to trot out and shut lefties down with.

[yankees228]

Actually Broxton and Sherrill are fairly experienced, especially for their ages. Broxton has 4 full years in the league, Sherrill has 5 (or rather, four and two halves). Behind them, Kuo and Troncoso compare favorably with Aceves and Robertson respectively.

 

The kicker for me is depth. The Yankees have Rivera, Hughes, Robertson and Aceves, and had Joba in the pen for the ALDS. The Dodgers have Broxton, Sherrill, Kuo, Belisario, Troncoso, and in a pinch, have gotten decent results from Weaver as the long man as well.

 

Among the pitchers the Yankees have on their roster that I don't know how much they can actually count on against good hitters is both of their bullpen lefties, Damaso Marte and Phil coke. That's a big disadvantage over a team that has Sherrill, and Kuo to trot out and shut lefties down with.

 

Overall, both bullpens are pretty even in terms of experience.

 

The back end of the Yankees bullpen, with Rivera and Hughes, is better than anything the other three team's in the playoffs have. This is pretty much indisputable.

 

It's important to remember that, against the Angels, there is only one lefty in the lineup. Against them, the importance of being able to match up lefty lefty is small. However, I never said the Yankees' were better equipped to get out lefties than the Dodgers.

 

I just think that the Yankees bullpen, overall, is better (mainly because of the back end). I also don't think that Kuo, Belsario, Troncoso, and Weaver are any better than Chamberlain, Aceves, Robertson, and Coke.

[Dojji]

There may only be one lefty in the lineup, but give or take Izturis there's as many as 3 switch hitters. (Izturis, Morales, Figgins).

 

At Yankee Stadium, with its short porch to right, turning those Switchies around, especially Morales, is something you want to be able to do.

[Keeper]

Yankees in 6.

[Gom]

Yankees in 7.

[Paradisecity]

I picked the Angels to beat the sox and then yanks in that predictor thread,and I'm picking them here too. Of course, the umpires might try to blow it for the Angels just like they did with the Twins.

[redsoxrules]

Angels in 4

[TheKilo]

5m? I knew it was short money but that's just unreal.

We gave Penny and Smoltz 5M each to keep us from winning the division.

Thats not entirely fair but man i always liked abreau and he has given the angels a little more swagger than theyve had in the past, you just knew Paps wasnt getting him out in the 9th with the game on the line...f***,after the 7th inning i thought we were going to come back and win this thing.

What can you say after a year like this? Full houses every night, a battle tested team with the pitching and a lot of guys who can rake looking to become the team of the decade just couldnt get it done.

Usually I go into a month long depression over something like this but there's been something missing on this team since Manny left, call it swagger call it lack of muscle but I just cant figure out how guys like Lackey and Weaver can stick it up our asses like they did on back to back nights and then yesterday our 0.00 era closer couldnt seal the deal...

Youk makes a f***ed up play at 1st in the 8th,Guerrero beats us with his liner to center and there were the bad hops and lack of big hits and consistancy that got us finally in the end.

Hang in there men, it aint as bad as it looked.

With the young arms that Theo has drafted and the current staff we have we can expect more October baseball next year and thats almost a certainty. We need to make a few moves to get some offense, maybe restructure the power game and concentrate more on producing runs with some more speed?

This teams future is as solid as any team in the league,Bucholz showed us yesterday that he is a stud in the making and with 1 more year of Becks Lester Bckhlz and DiceK we're going places even if Im hitting cleanup next April.

 

*chuckle*

 

Someone was going to do it eventually.

[yankees228]

I picked the Angels to beat the sox and then yanks in that predictor thread' date='and I'm picking them here too. Of course, the umpires might try to blow it for the Angels just like they did with the Twins.[/quote']

 

Lol, it was an awful call, but there is a very good chance they would intentionally walk Kubel anyway.

[yankees228]

I'm very happy about the fact that it seems likely that the Yankees will go with a three man rotation.

[yankees228]

There may only be one lefty in the lineup, but give or take Izturis there's as many as 3 switch hitters. (Izturis, Morales, Figgins).

 

At Yankee Stadium, with its short porch to right, turning those Switchies around, especially Morales, is something you want to be able to do.

 

Well, like you said, the only one you would really want to turn around is Morales. You're not worried about Izturis and Figgins hitting the ball out of the ballpark. Also, unless the splits are dramatically different, you probably want to just put your best relievers in against switch hitters, whether they be right handed or left handed.

 

I'll say this, though. Phil Coke's job last series was to get out Jason Kubel. He did a good job (0-2, although one was a line out). This series his job will be to get out Bobby Abreu. In a close and late game situation, Kendry Morales will be facing a RHP (Chamberlain, Hughes, or Rivera).

[yankees228]

Couple things...

 

It is supposed to rain in New York on Friday and Saturday, which could change the pitching rotation. The Yankees' are no strangers to postseason rain outs, but it only really cost them once in the past. Considering they probably plan to use a three man rotation, rain outs might prove to be really costly in this series.

 

Also, according to what I'm hearing on WFAN, it looks like Weaver will pitch game three, because they want him at home. Also, instead of Kazmir pitching game two (which is what I originally had thought), they might go with Joe Saunders.

[redsoxrules]

Its confirmed

 

Saunders game 2 , Weaver 3 and Kazmir 4

[yankees228]

Saunders was good in September, but he has not had a good year, and he has been awful on the road. I'm looking forward to the Yankees seeing him twice this series.

[yankees228]

If every game get played as scheduled I like the Yankees' chances in this series. Sabathia would pitch up to three games. Saunders would be slated to pitch twice at NYS (against Burnett and Pettitte). I think they would be able to find four wins in seven games (or fewer). However, if games start to get rained out, my confidence would go down.

[Optimist]

Angel Pitchers vs. NYY

 

Lackey: 1 -0, 1 game, 7 IP, 6 H, 2 ER, 6 K, 3 BB, 2.57 ERA

Saunders: 1 - 1, 2 games, 13.1 IP, 16 H, 7 ER, 6 K, 2 BB, 4.72 ERA

Weaver: 1 -1 , 3 games, 19.1 IP, 16 H, 12 ER, 13 K, 9 BB, 5.59 ERA

Kazmir: 2 -1, 3 games, 19.2 IP, 17 H, 7 ER, 14 K, 4 BB, 3.20 ERA

 

Yankee pitchers vs. LAA

 

Sabathia: 0 -2 , 2 games, 13.1 IP, 17 H, 9 ER, 11K, 4 BB, 6.08 ERA

Burnett: 1 - 0, 2 games, 12.2 IP, 15 H, 4 ER, 16 K, 4 BB, 4.26 ERA

Pettitte: 0 -2 , 3 games, 16 IP, 21 H, 14 ER, 6 K, 8 BB, 7.88 ERA

Gaudin: 0 -1 , 2 games, 7.2 IP, 16 H, 10 ER, 4 K , 2 BB, 11.74 ERA

 

Heh, hopefully the pitchers step it up and fare better in the post season. The key is going to be winning on Friday...I have a feeling if they win that game, they'll take the series.

[TheKilo]

Yanks in 6.

[yankees228]

The Yankees replaced Eric Hinske with Freddy Guzman.

[Mr Crunchy]

I liked the Yanks huge over Minneappolis but their a 2-1 favorite of the angels, a bit steep if you ask me.

come game 2 and perhaps even in game 1 the angels pitching i think is better than the yanks.

The Yanks are favored bigger than I thought, the Angels have owned them in October and their manager may be the best in the final 4..

Yanks in 6 but theyre getting tested for real this time

[yankees228]

I liked the Yanks huge over Minneappolis but their a 2-1 favorite of the angels, a bit steep if you ask me.

come game 2 and perhaps even in game 1 the angels pitching i think is better than the yanks.

The Yanks are favored bigger than I thought, the Angels have owned them in October and their manager may be the best in the final 4..

Yanks in 6 but theyre getting tested for real this time

 

You think Joe Saunders is better than AJ Burnett?

[yankees228]

Based on the weather forecast, I have a really hard time believing this series starts tomorrow.

[a700hitter]

Based on the weather forecast' date=' I have a really hard time believing this series starts tomorrow.[/quote']That will throw a wrench into the Yankees plan to go with a 3 man rotation.

[yankees228]

That will throw a wrench into the Yankees plan to go with a 3 man rotation.

 

Yes it will, and I'm concerned. If both teams are forced to use four starters, that gives the Angels an enormous advantage in one of the games.

 

The other thing is that it might create scenarios where both are forced to use pitchers on short rest, when they don't want to. In all depends who is better prepared to handle that, and I'm not quite sure of the answer. It probably wouldn't have mattered at this point, but one of the main reasons why game 7 of the 2004 ALCS was such a blowout is because the Red Sox were better equipped to handle the situation that was created by the rain out.

 

There is a distinct possibilities that game 1 might be on Sunday. That would eliminate two of the three off days in the series.

[26 to 6]

Hopefully they can get it in tomorrow, a little cold and snow never killed anybody. I'd rather have both teams be affected by the weather than us be affected by losing our off days. Who knows, we'll see what happens though.

 

I'm very concerned and nervous about this series. If any team in baseball can beat us in a 7 game series it's the Angels, and I think they have a real shot at ending our great season on a sour note.

[Gom]

I hate this weather. I should have sold my tickets and watched from home, nice and comfy and warm. f***.

[yankees228]

If there's a game on Sunday I wonder what time it gets played. Doesn't seem like there are any logical solutions.

[Gom]

f*** this s***.

[example1]

I hate this weather. I should have sold my tickets and watched from home' date=' nice and comfy and warm. f***.[/quote']

 

So stay home. Nobody feels bad for you that you have season tickets or get to go to playoff games. It is just whining and it's weak. Man up, go to the game, or stay home and watching there. Nobody cares.

 

The wind always blows more strongly on my Monster Seats, I hate that. I should have just sold them and stayed home... wahhh wahhh

[redsoxrules]

I hate this weather. I should have sold my tickets and watched from home' date=' nice and comfy and warm. f***.[/quote']

 

Your not a real fan then

[msubulldogs21]

So, New York people, what are the odds this game gets played tonight?