Adam LaRoche traded to the Red Sox

[Dojji]

I would be happy to acquire Lee.

[The_Destroyah]

i would love Lee too and he would be cheaper than Halladay, although that is a relative statement he would still cost a pretty penny but he could make any rotation better...

[TheKilo]

I'm a little weary of Lee. He has come back down to Earth this year. Not sure Lee is the right kind of pitcher for Fenway. But out of what's available he's near the top. He should cost lest the Halladay. Buchholz should not even be mentioned though.

 

l-o-l-w-u-t

[BSN07]

LOL I didn't say he was worthless. I could easily be convinced about him.

 

My fear is he is a pitcher that sits around 89-91MPH. He's not overpowering like Lester. And LHP's that aren't overpowering don't tend to fair well in Fenway. Maybe he's different. If it doesn't cost Buchholz, I can be sold.

[PWNdroia]

I would be happy to acquire Lee.

 

I agree, he would be cheaper than Halladay and still very helpful. If we could package him and Martinez, it'd be a plus. But probably no use now that we have Adam LaRoche. Personally, I'd love Halladay, but the price is not right.

[example1]

Kotsay will get released. This is decent insurance for the cost of a couple of bags of balls. Still need some offense in the OF and a pitcher that can go deep into games. Cliff Lee maybe?

 

The pitcher who will go deep into games will be Smoltz or Buchholz or Wake or Dice-K. I don't see them going out and overspending a lot to bring a pitcher in. They've acquired their pitchers for the year in Penny and Smoltz IMO.

 

Smoltz has had a few rough starts; actually, he's had a few rough innings. He gave up 13 of his 18 runs in 3 innings, and otherwise has performed at Smoltz level. Given how he has looked I'm pretty confident that he will be a useful starter for the team. He's a veteran who knows how to make adjustments and how to avoid the situations that have hurt him.

[PWNdroia]

The pitcher who will go deep into games will be Smoltz or Buchholz or Wake or Dice-K. I don't see them going out and overspending a lot to bring a pitcher in. They've acquired their pitchers for the year in Penny and Smoltz IMO.

 

Smoltz has had a few rough starts; actually, he's had a few rough innings. He gave up 13 of his 18 runs in 3 innings, and otherwise has performed at Smoltz level. Given how he has looked I'm pretty confident that he will be a useful starter for the team. He's a veteran who knows how to make adjustments and how to avoid the situations that have hurt him.

 

You really think one of those four mentioned pitchers will go deep into games without giving up to many runs or throwing too many pitches?

 

I think Cliff Lee is the answer. I like Halladay, but he's too much to trade for, so Lee will do.

[BSN07]

The pitcher who will go deep into games will be Smoltz or Buchholz or Wake or Dice-K. I don't see them going out and overspending a lot to bring a pitcher in. They've acquired their pitchers for the year in Penny and Smoltz IMO.

 

Smoltz has had a few rough starts; actually, he's had a few rough innings. He gave up 13 of his 18 runs in 3 innings, and otherwise has performed at Smoltz level. Given how he has looked I'm pretty confident that he will be a useful starter for the team. He's a veteran who knows how to make adjustments and how to avoid the situations that have hurt him.

 

I don't see the Sox in on Lee or Halladay. Beyond them there isn't anything worth trying for. Maybe Bedard if he's healthy.

[SoxSport]

LaRoche has hit .300 the 2nd half just about every season he's played. I didn't notice that. You'd think the Mets would have gone after him. The Sox picked up his 2nd half salary and didn't have to give up any good players--good deal for Epstein. Another good one getting a potential hitter, Duncan, for Lugo. Do mistakes like Lugo show up on Theo's performance reviews?

[BoSox21]

Do mistakes like Lugo show up on Theo's performance reviews?

 

why wouldnt they?

[example1]

Do mistakes like Lugo show up on Theo's performance reviews?

 

Yes. It is on his performance review. Right under 5 of 6 years in playoffs, 2 World Series Championships, etc.,

[Dojji]

Get here fast, Andy. We REALLY need you.

[Dipre]

Get here fast' date=' Andy. We REALLY need you.[/quote']

 

lolwut?

 

You beg for the guy for over 2 weeks and get his name wrong.

 

Failure of Natinals proportion.

[Cocos Disciples]

He has his mind on Mike Teahen.

[Dojji]

Guh. Well, in my defense, it's late, and I'm not the only one to fall for mixing up the two laRoches.

[Youk Of The Nation]

He has his mind on Mike Teahen.

 

I see what you did there.

[The_Destroyah]

He has his mind on Mike Teahen.

 

you mean Mar....oh i see what you did there lols you are a clever one

[Spudboy]

Clever bastards. All.

[example1]

Kotsay will get released. This is decent insurance for the cost of a couple of bags of balls. Still need some offense in the OF and a pitcher that can go deep into games. Cliff Lee maybe?

 

I just don't see the going deep into games problem as being near the top of the list. It would be nice, but that's also a reason to have a deep bullpen. I don't think the pen has been overworked too much, though I agree it is nice to keep them healthy and rested and at their most effective. I don't think pitching has totally hurt this team lately.

 

They definitely need some offense in the OF though. Ellsbury has looked like a stick figure up there recently and it is really frustrating. He's an exciting player and he can make things happen when he's getting on base, but when he's not getting on he's a pitcher at the plate. I am one of the biggest Ellsbury defenders here, but jesus his overall production has been s*** pretty much all year.

[SCM33]

Question:

 

Does Laroche resign here, effectively ending Lowells career in Boston?

 

Lets face it, Lowell looks done. Hes still hitting, but he cant run, his range is severely limited, and he doesnt hit with enough power to be a starting DH.

 

Laroche is a quality player, we might not do better than him on the FA market in terms of a corner infielder. Any chance he stays? If you do not think he stays, why doesnt he knowing that Lowell may be finsihed after this season?

[Dojji]

I dunno, if you started resting him now and gave him most of the rest of the season, plus the offseason, to recover, you might be able to get the old Mike Lowell back by next year.

[jacksonianmarch]

I dont think so Dojji. Lowell needs another procedure. He has something in that hip causing inflammation ie fluid. My guess is that he played with that hip injury for quite some time and may have arthritis. Rest doesnt make that go away

[BSN07]

I dunno' date=' if you started resting him now and gave him most of the rest of the season, plus the offseason, to recover, you might be able to get the old Mike Lowell back by next year.[/quote']

 

I dont think so Dojji. Lowell needs another procedure. He has something in that hip causing inflammation ie fluid. My guess is that he played with that hip injury for quite some time and may have arthritis. Rest doesnt make that go away

 

I don't think he will ever be the "Old" Mike Lowell. Jacko raises some valid concerns. Another procedure sounds likely. That means they might be going through this again next season. He may recover well, weirder things have happened. I don't think we as fans or the FO should bank on it though.

 

Keeping Laroche or someone like him around through next season wouldn't be a bad idea.

[Mr Crunchy]

Production from the outfield has been non existant in July, if Jason Bay doesnt sign soon he may work hit his way into the unemployment line, hes been God awful and speaking of Gods...

JD Drew?...Ya well his .233 average maybe due to the mood swings all this rainy weather brings onto those who are run by the Goddess of the moon,maybe he isnt feeling fresh, has someone called Dr Pappas or perhaps the head OBGYN at Brigham and Womens and give this guy a pap smear or a mammogram....JD Drew the God, hitting .233 what the f*** happened to this guy?

Well Mr Epstein we have Dicek at 20M per on the shelf cause his arms tired.

we got Drew at 14M hitting like a kansas city faggot.

Lowell is running like Barbaro at Pimlico and lost 1.5 steps at 3rd.

our mvp is on pace for 6 hrs,

our mashers in the middle are hitting 228 and 252 respectively and our leadoff guy is hitting 8th or 9th half the time and the bench guys have done nothing to earn them new contracts next year.

What are your plans for the end of the month, we need legitimate offense today.

The good news is pitching rarely slumps and we will be in the hunt no matter what happens to the offense. the bad news is our offense was weak in the playoffs last year and is getting exposed this year.

Too many sucky pitchers have stuck it up our ass with ease and Im coming down with another painful bout of Tourette's Syndrome...When the f*** does NY come back, its been our only cure?

[BSN07]

Production from the outfield has been non existant in July, if Jason Bay doesnt sign soon he may work hit his way into the unemployment line, hes been God awful and speaking of Gods...

JD Drew?...Ya well his .233 average maybe due to the mood swings all this rainy weather brings onto those who are run by the Goddess of the moon,maybe he isnt feeling fresh, has someone called Dr Pappas or perhaps the head OBGYN at Brigham and Womens and give this guy a pap smear or a mammogram....JD Drew the God, hitting .233 what the f*** happened to this guy?

Well Mr Epstein we have Dicek at 20M per on the shelf cause his arms tired.

we got Drew at 14M hitting like a kansas city faggot.

Lowell is running like Barbaro at Pimlico and lost 1.5 steps at 3rd.

our mvp is on pace for 6 hrs,

our mashers in the middle are hitting 228 and 252 respectively and our leadoff guy is hitting 8th or 9th half the time and the bench guys have done nothing to earn them new contracts next year.

What are your plans for the end of the month, we need legitimate offense today.

The good news is pitching rarely slumps and we will be in the hunt no matter what happens to the offense. the bad news is our offense was weak in the playoffs last year and is getting exposed this year.

Too many sucky pitchers have stuck it up our ass with ease and Im coming down with another painful bout of Tourette's Syndrome...When the f*** does NY come back, its been our only cure?

 

LOL Dice-K at 20M. Try 8M.

 

 

I do enjoy you periodic rants though, always good for a laugh:thumbsup:

[rhet]

Drew is on pace for 22 HRs and 70 RBIs.

 

He has cracked 22 HRs twice and 70 RBI three times in his 11 year career, so this would be one of his finest seasons.

[a700hitter]

I just don't see the going deep into games problem as being near the top of the list. It would be nice' date=' but that's also a reason to have a deep bullpen. I don't think the pen has been overworked too much, though I agree it is nice to keep them healthy and rested and at their most effective. I don't think pitching has totally hurt this team lately.[/quote']The offense has out-sucked the pitching of late, but the Fenway hitters will come alive when they get back home. Even deep bullpens get exposed from overwork. Right now, they have three 5 inning pitchers in the rotation. Buchholz going 90-100 pitches is not going to get him past 5 innings. If that doesn't change the MIR guys will be useless by the second week of August. This has already hurt us as a worn out pen blew a 10 run lead to the lowly Orioles.

They definitely need some offense in the OF though. Ellsbury has looked like a stick figure up there recently and it is really frustrating. He's an exciting player and he can make things happen when he's getting on base, but when he's not getting on he's a pitcher at the plate. I am one of the biggest Ellsbury defenders here, but jesus his overall production has been s*** pretty much all year.

How ironic that Johnny Damon is more productive than all of our OFers right now. We are missing a catalyst at the top of the order and that is hurting Youk, Ortiz and Bay.

[BSN07]

Drew is on pace for 22 HRs and 70 RBIs.

 

He has cracked 22 HRs twice and 70 RBI three times in his 11 year career, so this would be one of his finest seasons.

 

But his batting average is .233.

[BSN07]

The offense has out-sucked the pitching of late, but the Fenway hitters will come alive when they get back home. Even deep bullpens get exposed from overwork. Right now, they have three 5 inning pitchers in the rotation. Buchholz going 90-100 pitches is not going to get him past 5 innings. If that doesn't change the MIR guys will be useless by the second week of August. This has already hurt us as a worn out pen blew a 10 run lead to the lowly Orioles.

How ironic that Johnny Damon is more productive than all of our OFers right now. We are missing a catalyst at the top of the order and that is hurting Youk, Ortiz and Bay.

 

Damon plays in a little league ball park. Don't let his power numbers fool you, no way he puts those HR numbers up in Boston. I still say it was a good move not topping the Yanks offer for him. The signed him to be the CF. He played like 1.5 years there and can only play LF on a regular basis now.

 

Also it's easy to look like a catalyst when everyone behind you can hit a fly ball that leaves the park. He would actually have to run the bases and try and score from 1B for Boston. His legs would probably be dead by the AS break:D

 

That said he probably would help to some extent because the only Sox hitter hitting for anything right now is Pedroia. If things don't work out for the Sox this off season in trying to bring in a long term solution in LF, I wouldn't mind Damon on a one year deal.

[Paradisecity]

I dunno' date=' if you started resting him now and gave him most of the rest of the season, plus the offseason, to recover, you might be able to get the old Mike Lowell back by next year.[/quote']

 

Wasn't your thinking last offseason that we would "get the old mike lowell back" to start this season?

 

 

How'd that work out for us?