Adam LaRoche traded to the Red Sox

[a700hitter]

Damon plays in a little league ball park. Don't let his power numbers fool you, no way he puts those HR numbers up in Boston. I still say it was a good move not topping the Yanks offer for him. The signed him to be the CF. He played like 1.5 years there and can only play LF on a regular basis now.

 

Also it's easy to look like a catalyst when everyone behind you can hit a fly ball that leaves the park. He would actually have to run the bases and try and score from 1B for Boston. His legs would probably be dead by the AS break:D

 

That said he probably would help to some extent because the only Sox hitter hitting for anything right now is Pedroia. If things don't work out for the Sox this off season in trying to bring in a long term solution in LF, I wouldn't mind Damon on a one year deal.

The main focus of my post was the need for pitching. I was just noting the irony that Damon is outperforming all of our OFers. I wasn't revisiting the merits of whether the Sox should have let him walk.

 

According to Nick Cafardo's article today, the Red Sox are scouting the Guardians - Blue Jays series. I don't think they are looking at VMart or Overbay after acquiring La Roche. I think they have to be considering Lee and Halladay. There has been some talk that the Yankees would take on Wells contract to get the deal done, but with our offense needing a jolt, maybe we should consider taking him on. He is as good a fielder as anyone and he is a power threat. He's not too old. He could turn out to be a surprise like Lowell in the Beckett deal. Taking on Wells might drop the price for Halladay prospect-wise.

[BSN07]

 

According to Nick Cafardo's article today, the Red Sox are scouting the Guardians - Blue Jays series. I don't think they are looking at VMart or Overbay after acquiring La Roche. I think they have to be considering Lee and Halladay. There has been some talk that the Yankees would take on Wells contract to get the deal done, but with our offense needing a jolt, maybe we should consider taking him on. He is as good a fielder as anyone and he is a power threat. He's not too old. He could turn out to be a surprise like Lowell in the Beckett deal. Taking on Wells might drop the price for Halladay prospect-wise.

 

Not sure. I would bet maybe they were there for Scutaro. But they could have been there for all 3 of them plus a few others. Sox might have interest in Woods and Betancourt as well.

 

If the Sox talk on Wells, who gets moved from the OF? Drew? Doubt it. Bay? I have been told this is absurd. Jacoby? I guess the Sox could give up on him. I am not so sure there ready to do that though. I think he's not a lead off hitter. At least for the Sox. He has shown a lot of value at the 7th spot though. His Defense in CF is near tops in the league. I just have a hard time see them move him I guess.

 

Could Wells platoon the rest of this season, and take over in LF next season?

 

 

 

 

I still have hard time believing the Jays will deal within the division. Especially when someone within the FO was quoted as saying Boston and NY are public enemies 1 and 1a. It would be a tough sell in Toronto. I also see it being difficult for the deal to get done without Buchholz. I guess if the Sox are eating Wells hole deal maybe. But if Buchholz has to be in the deal, I don't see Theo wanting to face him for the next 5+ seasons either. Then possibly watching Halladay go to the Yanks if the feel like overpaying for him. Buchholz in Toronto, Halladay in NY after 2010(if no extension can be negotiated), and Theo is left holding his sack. Not sure I see it happening:D

[BoSox21]

I heard talk that the Rays are interested in Lee

 

Cliff Lee

James Shields

Matt Garza

Scott Kazmir

Jeff Niemann

 

oy...

[a700hitter]

Not sure. I would bet maybe they were there for Scutaro. But they could have been there for all 3 of them plus a few others. Sox might have interest in Woods and Betancourt as well

Scutaro? Betancourt? Scutaro is a cheap player who has over-performed this season, but he is little more than a utility player. Betancourt stinks. Woods? Why would they be looking at another bullpen piece? I agree with Cafardo that the Sox are there to scout Halladay and Lee.

[TheKilo]

Drew is on pace for 22 HRs and 70 RBIs.

 

He has cracked 22 HRs twice and 70 RBI three times in his 11 year career, so this would be one of his finest seasons.

 

RBIs are a team dependent statistic, terrible stat.

[TheKilo]

Wasn't your thinking last offseason that we would "get the old mike lowell back" to start this season?

 

 

How'd that work out for us?

 

*Tries best not to mention Mark Teixeira*

[Dipre]

*Tries best not to mention Mark Teixeira*

 

*Mentions Mark Teixeira subtly using interwebs intelligence.

 

To those clamoring for Scutaro:

 

He is overperforming.

 

Scutaro SUCKS./enddiscussion.

[TheKilo]

*Mentions Mark Teixeira subtly using interwebs intelligence.

 

To those clamoring for Scutaro:

 

He is overperforming.

 

Scutaro SUCKS./enddiscussion.

 

He fits a need, gets on base, etc.

 

Plus he can walk and we'd get a couple picks at the end of the season.

 

I don't know how people could clamor for Jack Wilson and disparage Scutaro.

[Dipre]

He fits a need, gets on base, etc.

 

Plus he can walk and we'd get a couple picks at the end of the season.

 

I don't know how people could clamor for Jack Wilson and disparage Scutaro.

 

Oh,brother..........

 

I hope that wasn't directed at me because i sure as hell wasn't on Wilson, and i'm sure as hell not on Scutaro.

 

Career .334 OBP including this season.

 

He gets on base, all right.

[a700hitter]

He fits a need, gets on base, etc.

 

Plus he can walk and we'd get a couple picks at the end of the season.

 

I don't know how people could clamor for Jack Wilson and disparage Scutaro.

People are clamoring for Jack Wilson? Jack Wilson is a superior fielding SS while Scutaro is not, but I haven't noticed any clamoring for Wilson.

[BSN07]

Scutaro? Betancourt? Scutaro is a cheap player who has over-performed this season' date=' but he is little more than a utility player. Betancourt stinks. Woods? [b']Why would they be looking at another bullpen piece?[/b] I agree with Cafardo that the Sox are there to scout Halladay and Lee.

 

I believe it was because the Sox have 3 5IP pitchers who are currently and are bound to be exhausting the current BP for the rest of this year(this came from you...).

 

Fresh arms in the BP possibly eliminates the need to overpay for a high profile SP.

 

Yes Scuataro is over performing this season. Good thing the Sox would have him for only this season. Let someone else over pay for him after this and collect there picks. It's not like I'm advocating for a long term deal for this guy.

 

 

You can dream about Lee and Halladay. But unless their respective asking prices come down, don't count on it.

[ORS]

Dude, Theo just sat down at a restaurant, what's he going to order? Tell me what you "see".

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

He's going to get 4 orders of buffalo wings and a giant soda as his own reward for talking a team into taking Lugo.

[The_Destroyah]

He's going to get 4 orders of buffalo wings and a giant soda as his own reward for talking a team into taking Lugo.

 

and a Beckett Burger...

[a700hitter]

I believe it was because the Sox have 3 5IP pitchers who are currently and are bound to be exhausting the current BP for the rest of this year(this came from you...).

 

Fresh arms in the BP possibly eliminates the need to overpay for a high profile SP.

Our bullpen guys are good. They are being overworked. If you get Woods, that would not alleviate the problem, because they would have to send down or cut a pitcher. The only guy in the pen with options is Bard and possibly Masterson. Bouncing them back and forth is not going to alleviate the overwork issue.

 

IYes Scuataro is over performing this season. Good thing the Sox would have him for only this season. Let someone else over pay for him after this and collect there picks. It's not like I'm advocating for a long term deal for this guy.

But he stinks. He did very well early, but he is crashing back to earth. He is a utility guy.

 

 

IYou can dream about Lee and Halladay. But unless their respective asking prices come down' date=' don't count on it.[/quote']I'm not counting on anything. I am just saying that based on Cafardo's article that they must be at least considering Lee and Halladay. They are not at the Guardians-Jays series to look at anyone else.

[BSN07]

Our bullpen guys are good. They are being overworked. If you get Woods, that would not alleviate the problem, because they would have to send down or cut a pitcher. The only guy in the pen with options is Bard and possibly Masterson. Bouncing them back and forth is not going to alleviate the overwork issue.

 

But he stinks. He did very well early, but he is crashing back to earth. He is a utility guy.

 

 

I'm not counting on anything. I am just saying that based on Cafardo's article that they must be at least considering Lee and Halladay. They are not at the Guardians-Jays series to look at anyone else.

 

Guess the couldn't be scouting Wells or Rios either... You did say something about them being added to a Halladay deal right? Why would they not scout them?

 

And maybe they are working on a deal that could cost them one of those BP arms. Be nice to have someone set up to replace them wouldn't it? Could be thinking a couple steps ahead:dunno:... Our would you rather see Hunter Jones in the pen?

[a700hitter]

Guess the couldn't be scouting Wells or Rios either... You did say something about them being added to a Halladay deal right? Why would they not scout them?

They would be scouting Wells or Rios only as part of a Halladay deal.

[BSN07]

They would be scouting Wells or Rios only as part of a Halladay deal.

 

But scouting them non the less.

[TheKilo]

Oh,brother..........

 

I hope that wasn't directed at me because i sure as hell wasn't on Wilson, and i'm sure as hell not on Scutaro.

 

Career .334 OBP including this season.

 

He gets on base, all right.

 

People are clamoring for Jack Wilson? Jack Wilson is a superior fielding SS while Scutaro is not' date=' but I haven't noticed any clamoring for Wilson.[/quote']

 

Not here but Sox fans in general.

[Gom]

Why would any team scout a player? Wouldn't that go under the guideline of "watching the gamezzz"?

 

Stats should tell you everything you need to know. Ever. Why bother scouting? Pointless.

[TheKilo]

Why would any team scout a player? Wouldn't that go under the guideline of "watching the gamezzz"?

 

Stats should tell you everything you need to know. Ever. Why bother scouting? Pointless.

 

You're an idiot.

[Dipre]

Why would any team scout a player? Wouldn't that go under the guideline of "watching the gamezzz"?

 

Stats should tell you everything you need to know. Ever. Why bother scouting? Pointless.

 

Will you ever shut the f*** up about that?

 

A ton of people here watch the games and don't brag about it.

 

How about if you do the same?

[SoxSport]

I'd like to see the Sox get Halladay, mainly because if the Yankees or the Phillies get him, or even the Dodgers or the Mets, the Red Sox will have a very tough time beating those teams in the playoffs. One ace pitcher can make a difference in the post-season. If the Sox added Halladay to Beckett and Lester, it would make them the team to beat. What more could you ask for?

 

Epstein is walking a tightrope, trying to balance the present with the future. Clearly, there has to be a mix of both. If Lajoie hadn't made that trade for Beckett and Lowell a few years back, the Sox wouldn't have won in 07. They say Theo would not have made that trade. He would have saved some money, and now would have a great SS, but he also would have one less championship on his resume. Big money ballclubs have to emphasize the present, as the Yankees learned last year.

[rhet]

What more could you ask for?

 

A couple of hitters?

[Cocos Disciples]

Will you ever shut the f*** up about that?

 

A ton of people here watch the games and don't brag about it.

 

How about if you do the same?

 

I don't even like baseball, I just like stats.

[TedWilliams101]

Why would any team scout a player? Wouldn't that go under the guideline of "watching the gamezzz"?

 

Stats should tell you everything you need to know. Ever. Why bother scouting? Pointless.

 

I really hope you are being sarcastic.

[TheKilo]

I don't even like baseball' date=' I just like stats.[/quote']

 

NUMBERS!!!!

 

http://images.bcdb.com/add_im/disney/don/mathmagic_land.jpg

[Keeper]

RBIs are a team dependent statistic' date=' terrible stat.[/quote']

 

This seems to be a prevalent attitude. I can't say I agree with it. While it is true that if no one is getting on base in front of you, your run production will obviously suffer, it is simultaneously true that some guys hit better with runners on or runners in scoring position than others. Some guys get the job done. Some guys don't.

 

Milton Bradley has 22 RBIs. He's hitting .212 with RISP. That's not the team's fault.

[BSN07]

I'd like to see the Sox get Halladay, mainly because if the Yankees or the Phillies get him, or even the Dodgers or the Mets, the Red Sox will have a very tough time beating those teams in the playoffs. One ace pitcher can make a difference in the post-season. If the Sox added Halladay to Beckett and Lester, it would make them the team to beat. What more could you ask for?

 

Epstein is walking a tightrope, trying to balance the present with the future. Clearly, there has to be a mix of both. If Lajoie hadn't made that trade for Beckett and Lowell a few years back, the Sox wouldn't have won in 07. They say Theo would not have made that trade. He would have saved some money, and now would have a great SS, but he also would have one less championship on his resume. Big money ballclubs have to emphasize the present, as the Yankees learned last year.

 

LOL @ the Mets getting Halladay. Even if they some how pulled it off, they still have to score at least 1 run to win the game. That might be a tall order with all those injuries.

[TedWilliams101]

Drew has put up almost his exact career stats in RISP. No issue there. The ONLY knock against Drew is his durability. He rarely stays healthy for a full season.