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I really wouldn't mind seeing a few dozen owners get together and have a press conference to explain the importance of a salary cap.
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While I'm sure his intentions are sincere Henry comes across a bit disingenuous here due to the timing of his announcement (after the Sox lost out on Teixeira).
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The Red Sox are going to miss out on at least one big-name free agent or big-contract trade in any given offseason. There would NEVER be a good time to call for a salary cap on that basis.

 

Also: didn't Henry own the Marlins at one point? I'd say he's seen both sides..

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Teixeira's signing was some time ago, but perhaps there was a timing issue involved. The Yankees post-season shopping spree is still fresh enough that it was probably a great time to make the point.

 

Again, I don't buy into the sour grapes ******** beyond the fact that the Yankees spending means the Sox HAVE to spend more in order to compete...and this means that the Sox owners can not maximize profits/maximize their ROI as they'd like if they want to compete.

 

Looked at another way, the Sox have been doing a much better job than the Yankees in recent years of running an organization, but the Yankees spending negates some of the hard work the Red Sox are doing.

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Oh, and anudda ting -- I believe the Sox are currently still 4th or so in payroll having been surpassed by the Mets and Tigers, I'd say we have a bit of room to talk since the league has more or less caught up with us.

 

I'd say a floor of $60M and a ceiling of $110M would work. Even the Royals have recently demonstrated that they can spend over $60M. Build in a clause like they have in hockey so that salaries on the DL soften the cap a bit.

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What should happen with revenue sharing then? I mean in your example...

 

Replace it with a more equitable sharing of media money -- that's been needing to happen for awhile, after all the big teams wouldn't draw without the little teams.

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I agree there should be a cap it will prevent teams from spending ridiculous amounts of money for players and it will even the league out a bit more take the NHL for example teams we would never see competing before actually have a shot now it would make for more interesting playoffs that's for sure.
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I did hear some s*** being thrown Henry's direction over the fact that the two times he's come out publicly for a salary cap were right after the Yanks got A-Rod and right before the new Yankee Stadium is opening.

 

Colin Cowherd, for one, was pretty hilarious ranting about it.

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I did hear some s*** being thrown Henry's direction over the fact that the two times he's come out publicly for a salary cap were right after the Yanks got A-Rod and right before the new Yankee Stadium is opening.

 

Colin Cowherd, for one, was pretty hilarious ranting about it.

 

Colin Cowherd is a pompus ass. Of course, I listen to him too, but he's a jerk.

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Colin Cowherd is a pompus ass. Of course' date=' I listen to him too[/b'], but he's a jerk.

 

Key words. You wouldn't listen to him if he played a nice guy

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Henry is full of s***.

 

He said the same stuff when the Yankees traded for Arod. This is after the Red Sox botched their attempted trade for Arod.

 

Check out this article.

 

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/story/7097874

 

Notice that Henry states this after the Yankees make a big splash. He wasn't calling for fiscal restraint after his team spent $200+ million in one off-season for Drew, Lugo and Dice-K. He didn't call for it when he bid more than 20 million MORE than any other team to get Dice-K.

 

Coming from the Brewers and the Royals is one thing. Coming from Henry...he's full of s***.

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Cowherd is a pathetic joke and I hate him. That said, I agree with Gom and a700, among others. Henry needs to shut up about this. I'm not completely against the idea of a salary cap, but hearing the owner of the second-or-third spending team in the league whining about it is recockulous.
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Ugh' date=' Cowherd makes me want to poke pencils in my ears.[/quote']

 

He went on a rant today saying how stupid the Red Sox FO was for moving Manny. It's one thing to state an opinion, but he was actually wrong on many aspects of Manny's tenure in Boston. He's struck me as one of the few that sports radio personalities that really doesn't care about the facts.

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Henry is full of s***.

 

He said the same stuff when the Yankees traded for Arod. This is after the Red Sox botched their attempted trade for Arod.

 

Check out this article.

 

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/story/7097874

 

Notice that Henry states this after the Yankees make a big splash. He wasn't calling for fiscal restraint after his team spent $200+ million in one off-season for Drew, Lugo and Dice-K. He didn't call for it when he bid more than 20 million MORE than any other team to get Dice-K.

 

Coming from the Brewers and the Royals is one thing. Coming from Henry...he's full of s***.

Wah, somebody wants to take away our cash binky. Let's attack his character.

 

Henry made the similar statements as the owner of the Marlins. He's been consistent on the issue, no matter which side of the coin his ownership interest is found. And, it is possible to recognize a flaw in the system, state it is flawed, while still taking advantage of that flaw because you'd be stupid not too. That's called honesty, which I certainly prefer to the nonsense you get from the Steinbrenners about how revenue sharing has leveled the field. You'd see this if you could get beyond the knee jerk reaction to defend the system plays favor to your team above all others.

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Doesn't it make sense at least to a large extent that the owner of the most successful franchise of this decade is calling for a radically different economic system?
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Actually I think Henry probably has more authority calling for a salary cap than a perennial loser would.

 

And don't forget what he owned before he owned the Red Sox either. Henry's seen both sides of this particular coin.

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Wah, somebody wants to take away our cash binky. Let's attack his character.

 

Henry made the similar statements as the owner of the Marlins. He's been consistent on the issue, no matter which side of the coin his ownership interest is found. And, it is possible to recognize a flaw in the system, state it is flawed, while still taking advantage of that flaw because you'd be stupid not too. That's called honesty, which I certainly prefer to the nonsense you get from the Steinbrenners about how revenue sharing has leveled the field. You'd see this if you could get beyond the knee jerk reaction to defend the system plays favor to your team above all others.

 

Revenue sharing has levelled the field. Since it was instituted in 2002, there has been only one team who has won 2 championships.

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Key words. You wouldn't listen to him if he played a nice guy

 

Then how do you explain the fact that I listen to Mike Turico, Scott Van Pelt, Dan Patrick, etc.,? I'm pretty sure I listen to him because he's the sports radio commentator who is on the radio between 6 and 10am in my area and I drive to work at 7am. I drive for my job a lot so I hear all of those guys.

 

Cowherd uses absurd mocking voices while making strawman arguments that only drooling idiots would make. His thing is to either make a dramatic sounding voice offering an argument that nobody would make (say, SEC football fan saying "all of our teams are better than even the best teams in all other conferences! Don't mess with the South!"), or having someone who represents a small group of callers make a 10 second statement that is easy to shoot down--especially when he doesn't give them the chance to follow up.

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Revenue sharing has levelled the field.

 

Good one :lol:

 

From 2002-2008:

 

Yanks made playoffs 6 of 7 yrs

Sox made playoffs 5 of 7 years

Angels made playoffs 4 of 7

Dodgers made it 3 of 7 years

Cubs 3 times

Atl 4 times

St Louis 4 times

 

In 2002 3 of the playoff teams were top 10 in payroll...2003 I believe it was 3 or4.

 

In 2004 4 playoff teams were in the top 10 in payroll...and St Louis, Houston and Angles were 13,14,15, respectively.

 

In 2005, 3 of the top 4 payrolls made the playoffs. 5 playoff teams were in the top 10 in payroll. Two more were 12th and 13th in payroll, the lowest playoff team was at 17.

 

2007 saw 5 of the top 10 payrolls make the playoffs, with 4 of the playoff teams in the top 5 in payroll!

 

In 2008, the #4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 11 payrolls all made the playoffs.

 

Far from a level field.

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Colin Cowherd is a pompus ass. Of course' date=' I listen to him too, but he's a jerk.[/quote']

 

Ugh' date=' Cowherd makes me want to poke pencils in my ears.[/quote']

 

Key words. You wouldn't listen to him if he played a nice guy

 

For the record, I agree with all of these assessments.

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