2007 Yankee Game Thread

[ORS]

6 runs on 3 hits. Does the M's manager know the heimlich?

[ORS]

Ooops, make that 8 on 4, the rest is the same.

[ARod2212]

Johjima is funny.

[jacksonianmarch]

um, yeah. Hughes threw very well tonight after some early trouble and his performance opened up the race a bit. Good work kid, hopefully he is turning the corner at the right time.

[das11209]

um' date=' yeah. Hughes threw very well tonight after some early trouble and his performance opened up the race a bit. Good work kid, hopefully he is turning the corner at the right time.[/quote']

 

Chat except from Keith Law of ESPN. And I completely agree with him - kid got lucky last night.

 

Brisco (NoMaas, NY): Hughes looked a lot better last night, throwing consistently in the 90s and locating the curve a lot more effectively. What are the chances that Dave Eiland fixed something than Guidry couldn't, and, if so, what does that mean?

 

Keith Law: (1:04 PM ET ) I was behind the plate, and I think that's a rather inaccurate portrayal of how he pitched last night. He was mostly 88-91 and was popping his curve way too often. It was a poor performance, even if the results in terms of runs allowed were OK. I submitted a writeup of last night's game which should be posted any time now.

[das11209]

This gets more and more interesting:

 

Chris (NYC): Klaw, I'll give you that Boston and NYY are equal, and the Angels are better then NYY, but the Guardians are better then NYY? I don't see it. Even when the Yankees were struggling early in the year they still swept cleveland. Maybe you could Explain?

 

Keith Law: (1:19 PM ET ) Right now, what would the pitching on the Yanks' playoff roster be? The rotation would be Wang, Pettitte, and ... Hughes? Kennedy? Mussina? And think about the pen - other than Rivera and Chamberlain (damn, hoped we could skate through without mentioning him), is there anyone there you trust, even with a four-run lead? That's why I ranked them fourth. They're going to reach the playoffs because they have the best offense in baseball, but their pitching staff is very shallow.

[das11209]

Jeff, Westport CT: Keith, Would you really characterize Hughes' performance last night as "poor?" In a virtual must win game for the Yankees he held the team chasing them to 2 runs over 6 innings -- a "quality" major league start. He may have "popped" some curves, but he also wasn't getting the inside corner call on the back-door curves. He got alot of ground balls, and seemed to make pitches when he needed to. It's not like this was an exhibition game -- the results have to speak substantially for the performance, don't they? How can this be considered "poor?" And by the way, I agree about Melky.

 

Keith Law: (1:41 PM ET ) Hughes got an exceptionally generous strike zone, especially outside, and he couldn't locate his curve at all. He also looked like he was aiming his fastball all night, which is not a good sign. Since the real question here is what the Yankees can expect from Hughes in September and whether they can use him at all in October, I'd say that last night was, at best, inconclusive, and really was a negative sign.

[das11209]

I just realized I might be helping out GOM - hmmm.

[He Hate Me]

This gets more and more interesting:

 

Chris (NYC): Klaw, I'll give you that Boston and NYY are equal, and the Angels are better then NYY, but the Guardians are better then NYY? I don't see it. Even when the Yankees were struggling early in the year they still swept cleveland. Maybe you could Explain?

 

Keith Law: (1:19 PM ET ) Right now, what would the pitching on the Yanks' playoff roster be? The rotation would be Wang, Pettitte, and ... Hughes? Kennedy? Mussina? And think about the pen - other than Rivera and Chamberlain (damn, hoped we could skate through without mentioning him), is there anyone there you trust, even with a four-run lead? That's why I ranked them fourth. They're going to reach the playoffs because they have the best offense in baseball, but their pitching staff is very shallow.

 

Boston has the same concerns right now IMO in the bullpen with Okajima and partially in the starting rotation with Daisuke seemingly hitting the rookie wall.

[TheKilo]

Boston has the same concerns right now IMO in the bullpen with Okajima and partially in the starting rotation with Daisuke seemingly hitting the rookie wall.

 

Boston has the advantage of having a 6 game lead which could allow them to get those guys rest before the playoffs.

 

The Yanks will probably clinch later than Boston, leaving them less time to rest.

[He Hate Me]

Boston has the advantage of having a 6 game lead which could allow them to get those guys rest before the playoffs.

 

The Yanks will probably clinch later than Boston, leaving them less time to rest.

 

The point is that Keith tries to make it seem like the Yanks won't do anythign in the playoffs because we have issues with the rotation and bullpen, which is kind of like football analyst having issues with a team becausse of injuries..in other words, when even the team with the best record in the majors has those same problems that the Yanks have, it's really not worth mentioning. How strong is Cleveland's bullpen and rotation? How strong is the Angel's bullpen without Scott Shields being Scott Shields?

[TheKilo]

The point is that Keith tries to make it seem like the Yanks won't do anythign in the playoffs because we have issues with the rotation and bullpen' date=' which is kind of like football analyst having issues with a team becausse of injuries..in other words, when even the team with the best record in the majors has those same problems that the Yanks have, it's really not worth mentioning. How strong is Cleveland's bullpen and rotation? How strong is the Angel's bullpen without Scott Shields being Scott Shields?[/quote']

 

Oh I agree that every team has its flaws, I'm just relaying the advantages of being able to clinch earlier.

[jacksonianmarch]

Boston has the advantage of having a 6 game lead which could allow them to get those guys rest before the playoffs.

 

The Yanks will probably clinch later than Boston, leaving them less time to rest.

 

we clinched with nearly 2 and a half weeks left in the yr last season and lots of good that did.

[jacksonianmarch]

Chat except from Keith Law of ESPN. And I completely agree with him - kid got lucky last night.

 

Brisco (NoMaas, NY): Hughes looked a lot better last night, throwing consistently in the 90s and locating the curve a lot more effectively. What are the chances that Dave Eiland fixed something than Guidry couldn't, and, if so, what does that mean?

 

Keith Law: (1:04 PM ET ) I was behind the plate, and I think that's a rather inaccurate portrayal of how he pitched last night. He was mostly 88-91 and was popping his curve way too often. It was a poor performance, even if the results in terms of runs allowed were OK. I submitted a writeup of last night's game which should be posted any time now.

 

Citing Keith Law is like citing Peter Gammons in a yankee article. Law is pretty stupid.

[das11209]

Citing Keith Law is like citing Peter Gammons in a yankee article. Law is pretty stupid.

 

 

Somehow I had a feeling you would disagree with his expert opinion. Does not necessarily makes him stupid.

[TheKilo]

we clinched with nearly 2 and a half weeks left in the yr last season and lots of good that did.

 

You ran into great pitching. It happens.

 

Okajima is clearly gassed and needs time off, which clinching early would give him.

[yankees228]

Well, this has really been a game of wasted oppurtunities for the Yankees. Three straight innings with the bases loaded and two outs, and all three guys get out. They've yet to get a hit with RISP this game. On top of all that, Joba had to sit for awhile during the Yankees' half inning.

[jacksonianmarch]

Kennedy pitched rather similarly to his first game. Awful first 2 innings, dominant after that. Surprised they pulled him at 81 pitches. Farns looked good, good to see Dr. Jekyll today. And Joba was solid as well. Its up to Mo to shut em down.

 

And y228, you are right, we have been awful w/RISP. But we are in a position to hand a lead to Mo, which is all you can ask for.

[yankees228]

Kennedy pitched rather similarly to his first game. Awful first 2 innings, dominant after that. Surprised they pulled him at 81 pitches. Farns looked good, good to see Dr. Jekyll today. And Joba was solid as well. Its up to Mo to shut em down.

 

And y228, you are right, we have been awful w/RISP. But we are in a position to hand a lead to Mo, which is all you can ask for.

 

Agreed about the last part, unfortunately it should not be this close.

 

Wow, Matsui is really struggling. The 2-1 pitch was right down the middle and he just took it, and then the 3-2 pitch was right down the middle and he didn't square up on it.

 

Mo time.

[yankees228]

NICE! That's about as easy an inning as you could have asked for.

 

Great effort from the bullpen tonight to pick up the offense.

[jacksonianmarch]

YANKEES WIN!!

 

3 up on both Seattle and Detroit in the L column with 2 more in KC while Det and SEA get to battle it out. We should start rooting for the M's, as I think they are most likely to tank after this series. Detroit may be a tough one if they get going.

[ARod2212]

A-Rod = Hercules.

[Optimist]

The MVP race is over (for sure, at this point.)

 

8 days into September and A-Rod already has 7 HRs, 13 RBIs...

[Gom]

The MVP race was over in April. With all due respect to Mags and Vlad, there was no chance Arod wasn't winning it. Arod could sit out the rest of the season and he still wins in a landslide. He has had as remarkable a season as I have ever seen. Enjoy it Yankee fans. You booed the best player we had since Babe Ruth out of town in three weeks.

[redsoxrules]

Arod homers again..... 2-0 yanks

[jacksonianmarch]

ARod is en fuego. 4 games up in the WC while we are surging.

[ARod2212]

How much f***ing money is this guy going to get in December? He is absolutely ridiculous.

[redsoxrules]

yeah he's getting 30+ million a year for sure now

[jacksonianmarch]

Hughes is throwing 93-94 on the toronto gun and 95-96 on the gamecast gun. His curve looks pretty good too. I just wish this kid wasnt gunshy. Walking Adams was just plain dumb and leaving a cockshot to Rios on 0-2 was also stupid. 30 pitches after 1, the kid better get through next inning unscathed.

[ARod2212]

He better get through the next inning on 6 pitches.