Mariners Listening On Offers For Right-Hander Luis Castillo

24 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

How many times did we hear Castillo was not on the market to be traded?

Seattle PBO Jerry Dipoto in late September reportedly said trading from the Mariner starting rotation would be "Plan Z."

https://www.mlb.com/news/jerry-dipoto-reflects-on-mariners-2024-season-future

46 minutes ago, notin said:

The obligatory BTV mention has Castillo with a surplus value of $2.8mill, same as Wikelman Gonzalez.  I don’t see Seattle making that deal, as I’d guess they’re trying to capitalize on inflated SP contracts.  Castillo might be a mid-rotation guy, but the value of his current contract is only $3mill AAV over the new one for the the extremely fungible Yusei Kikuchi…

FWIW Luis Castillo's value at Baseball Trade Values has jumped from a negative $30.6 million on November 8, to a negative $6.1 million on November 22, to a positive $5.5 million on December 2 to a positive $2.8 million today.

10 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Dipoto dispelled speculation that the Mariners would be open to dealing young starting pitchers Logan Gilbert, George Kirby, Bryce Miller and Bryan Woo, likening the notion to “plan Z.”

Perhaps that reporting is imprecise. Here is what the top beat reporter wrote:

https://x.com/RyanDivish/status/1840164420204540316

2 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

And a follow up a few weeks later:

“If you remove something for your club and you add something of equal value, you haven't really moved the ball forward. We're looking to move the ball forward.
... It's tough to imagine scenarios with moving our young pitching, that we move our ball forward and not just rearrange things. And we're not really looking to rearrange, we're looking to get better.”

No doubt that the Mariners are listening to offers on Luis Castillo.

6 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

How many times did we hear Castillo was not on the market to be traded?

what i heard was that Castillo was the ONLY SP Seattle MIGHT trade

44 minutes ago, Randy Red Sox said:

what i heard was that Castillo was the ONLY SP Seattle MIGHT trade

Seattle reportedly will listen on Luis Castillo ... and any current Mariner:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nECI_Ti18AA

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

How is it that we know more about your ever-trading GM than you do?

The Boston front office is probably leakier than the Seattle front office.

21 hours ago, harmony said:

FWIW Luis Castillo's value at Baseball Trade Values has jumped from a negative $30.6 million on November 8, to a negative $6.1 million on November 22, to a positive $5.5 million on December 2 to a positive $2.8 million today.

Id give him +11, personally.

Lets say the Yankees get Burnes, the Blue Jays get Fried and the Mets trade for Crochet. Sasaki to the dodgers and Seattle offers you Castillo for Hamilton (+13). You laughing them off the phone? Cuz that doesnt sound terrible to me.

28 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

Lets say the Yankees get Burnes, the Blue Jays get Fried and the Mets trade for Crochet. Sasaki to the dodgers and Seattle offers you Castillo for Hamilton (+13). You laughing them off the phone? Cuz that doesnt sound terrible to me.

Seattle would never offer Luis Castillo for 27-year-old infielder David Hamilton, whom Steamer projects with a 2025 WAR of 0.6 in 50 games.

In the utility role the Mariners already have Gold Glove winner Dylan Moore, whom Steamer projects with a 2025 WAR of 2.1 in 136 games.

1 hour ago, drewski6 said:

Lets say the Yankees get Burnes, the Blue Jays get Fried and the Mets trade for Crochet. Sasaki to the dodgers and Seattle offers you Castillo for Hamilton (+13). You laughing them off the phone? Cuz that doesnt sound terrible to me.

Breslow would bite his tongue off in haste at saying yes to such a thing. 

Not remotely close to what Castillo would fetch (or is worth).

3 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Word is SEA refused Casas for Miller or Woo- just like or similar to some trades some of us suggested.

I think I'd rather have 5 years of one of them than 2 of Crochet, but it's a close call.

a close call? really? i truly don't get the obsession for Crochet and his 1/2 of a good season. 

9 minutes ago, notin said:

Bullshiit Steamer projections aside, Hamilton was actually worth 1.7 fWAR in 98 games, which extrapolates out to 2.3 fWAR in 136 games.  He’s not a step down from Moore.  At worst, he’s an equal, and as he’s 5 years younger, is more likely to improve.

Moore’s Gold Glove was undeserved.  Ceddanne Rafaela played multiple roles and fared better on the defensive metrics.

That said, and despite Hamilton’s significantly greater surplus value than Castillo’s, I’d be surprised if even Dipoto entertained that offer, as my guess is the primary reason Castillo is potentially available is because he’s marketed as a “low cost” starting solution…

FWIW this year Dylan Moore posted 2.4 fWAR in 135 games.